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wolfguard says:
(Fri Mar 24 03:44:24 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I do believe if one is living in the country illegally or have family or
friends in the country illegally, then the Trump administration's immigration
policies will hurt you. You have reason to fear him.

I also believe his trade policies reflect third-rate thinking and will hurt the
country in the long-run. His foreign policy towards China is contradictory and
to Europe, dangerous.

But, I do not believe he's looking to establish an autocracy anymore than I
believed Obama was seeking to create a caliphate in America.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Mar 24 03:19:51 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

"...A lack of transparency leads to one thing: "You're going to have
conjecture," explained Jesse Walker, an editor of Reason magazine and
the author of the 2014 book The United States of Paranoia: A Conspiracy
Theory.
"When you have a blank slate to play with, people will fill in
the blanks with stories that interest and excite and feel plausible to them
- even apart from the evidence, because this is the way they expect the
world to work
," he said, "They draw on the narratives they know and find
appealing."..." (I added the emphasis)

From The Crash Detectives: investigating the world's most mysterious air
disasters
by Christine Negroni, p.62


I find some folks' fears and speculations about Trump similar to some folks'
fears and speculations about Obama, different in content, but same
underlying psychology.



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Mar 24 02:30:52 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

The President's tweets? Let's take one, ~ President Obama had me "wiretapped" ~

Has this more helped or hindered Trump's policy goals? Today or yesterday, one
of his aides - I believe Spicer - was listing promises the president made that
he has kept or tried to keep, i.e. started down the road to making good on.
Would that need be done if so much time wasn't spent on covering his tweets?

What's being created? Chaos? Distraction? Indirection? Lack of focus? And for
who? It seems most of his staff spend an inordinate amount of time trying to
undo the damage his tweets cause.

Off this, an excerpts on how people 'see' conspiracies in the world around them
in next post.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Mar 24 01:18:13 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I was offline for a little bit.

I brought that up, because it seems like that's what the White House is doing.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Mar 23 23:45:40 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I thought you "wag the dog" might be synonymous with "tail wagging the dog',
but I am wrong. Just checked and the two phrases have slightly different
meanings.

"Tail wags the dog' is when a least significant factor takes precedent over a
more important factor.

"Wags the dog" is the use of distraction to get people to look at something of
lesser importance.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Mar 23 23:36:26 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

"Wag the dog? Yes

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Mar 23 23:11:51 2017 70.198.45.57) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard

Have you heard of the phrase wag the
do?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Mar 23 22:33:17 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
question: What character had a pet ocelot named Bruce?
Answer: Honey West

Trivia Sherlock Holmes: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Watson: MAverick



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Maverick says:
(Thu Mar 23 22:26:12 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Anne Francis


lostinamerica: Well, you either have a curious nature and/or want to know and understand things, or you don't. So, if I had never responded, you would not now know that Albert Einstein had some incredibly great things to say about Jesus.


Comma: I disagree about the time-distancing from events promoting truth. With the Leftist Ideology, they have a certain Marxist attitude they are promoting and "truth" often gets in the way, so the harder it is to verify the truth, the easier it is for them to obscure it and promote their Socialist ideas. They love tearing down freedom-loving ideas as espoused by Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence, by insinuating that he father children by his slave Sally Hemmings, whereas the truth is that there were 9 other relatives that would have been more likely culprits. And like Senator Joseph McCarthy who is accused of railroading people through the House on Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC.) The left loves to accuse people of McCarthyism (accusing people of being Marxists) when McCarthy was 1). a Senator who was not in the House of Representatives, and 2). Most of McCarthy's allegations were borne out as facts when the Russians allowed access to their archives and the Venona Cables were released. The Left needs to portray our Founding Fathers as old white men who had slaves; and, therefore, we would all be much better off living under Communism.


Okay, perhaps PeeWee Herman is not for everyone (an acquired taste.) I believe "PeeWee's Big Adventure" is a wonderfully funny movie. Well, does anyone remember back when PeeWee was just a special that was shown on HBO in 1981. Indeed, it was the recording of a Stageplay performed at the Roxy Theater in L.A., and called "The PeeWee Herman Show." It's the forerunner of "PeeWee's Playhouse." If you've never seen it, it's right here The PeeWee Herman Show. It features Phil Hartman as Captain Carl and such classic films as Mr. Bungle.


R.I.P. Chuck Barris (of the Gong Show)


Maverick


La La Means I Love You




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Mar 23 21:39:27 2017 70.198.52.118) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard

I think he needs to entice them with
something, like fancy feast cat
food.



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wofguard says:
(Thu Mar 23 18:41:21 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
"WH Delivers 'Final Offer' to GOP Critics On Health Care"


~ Donald Trump is trying to herd cats and he's just not use to it ~

- CNN



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Mar 23 18:14:47 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO,

When I first read the post, I thought you meant 'confused' about the time-line or chronology of 5th season.


Comma,

A possible clarification on my history posts. I think it's easier to get objective analysis about a historical event or period after everyone's dead - and that may not be enough time.1 *g* OTOH, I'm all for collecting historical evidence as soon as possible, since evidence can fade away over time (example: oral histories of participants).

1 In March through Georgia, author Lee Kennett wrote that soon after the war most Georgians had let go their anger and hate of the Union for its actions against civilians. Why? You got to get on with life. However, 70 odd years later Georgians not alive during the war developed an antipathy towards the North after watching Gone with the Wind. *g*


WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Mar 23 18:11:01 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
"So, anyway, I turned the corner on my bike and the 12th Street Gang spotted me. So, I jumped off my bike and let it fall, ran to the bus station a nd came home."

"Why didn't you just drive your bike home? Or to the bus station?"

"Because I was faster on foot. See, my bike was two-tired."



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Mar 23 17:19:55 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Midday check-in and I'm wondering how OldManFan is doing on his Spring Practice in baseball. Looks like he is an assistant, not an actual player.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Mar 23 15:19:35 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Honey West



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Mar 23 15:16:41 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
question: What character had a pet ocelot named Bruce?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Mar 23 11:55:14 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Umm, it means I sort of confused them in my mind. What else would it mean?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Mar 23 11:46:33 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, March 23rd 2017 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Darkchild
Golden Girl
Marisa
Prince of Lunacy
V.W.

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Darkchild, Golden Girl, Marisa, Prince of Lunacy, V.W.!



Wash: I mean, I'm the one she swore to love, honor and obey. Mal: Listen... She swore to obey? Wash: Well, no, not...'War Stories''''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayofTheDay says:
(Thu Mar 23 11:40:38 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for narnian!

yay narnian

Happy CD Thursday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Mar 23 11:18:05 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick--But that's cheating ;)


Belated Yay! Amarra!


Belated Happy Birthday Phil Phud!



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Comma says:
(Thu Mar 23 09:19:41 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Any discussion, on the subject of any historians and history, is very interesting to me. As far as wolfguard's question on historians waiting too long, when I started my long route to becoming a military historian, most historians, and most institutes that taught or promoted historical thought and work, stated that true history was not started to be understood and written until 125 years after the action ended. Action being the actual event, or the life, written about. The thought was, while we know dates and the physical outcome, we could not see the actual influence of an event, or of a person's life, until at least 125 years later. With the internet, and the sharing of thoughts and ideas being share as fast as one can type the data, I'm not sure if the 125 year rule applies anymore.

I believe that the 125 year rule goes back to when most students start using the event, or the life of a person, as the subject base of their papers. Then again, a course on ancient Greece will have all submitted paper subjects about that time frame, and all the classes on the Vietnam War will have papers from that time period. Maybe my idea does not hold water.

Comma



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Mar 23 02:18:50 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

Amazon carries Company Aytch. You can find it using "company h". If you
remember Ken Burns' "Civil War" series from the 1990s, Sam Watkins was one of
two soldiers whose memories he continually visited. As I recall from the
opening lead-in to the series, ~ two soldiers, one Union and one Confederate,
who between them seem to have been everywhere and lived to tell the tale ~. The
Union soldier was Elisa Rhodes (All for the Union). Rhodes served in the
eastern theater, Watkins in the west (and south into Georgia).

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Mar 23 01:50:43 2017 100.4.183.212) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick -- Yeah It was alot of work, but it was
rewarding. We've been wantinig to replace that
floor for a long time, it was already worn out when
we bought this house in 2010. We've done alot of
work here since then and it's taken us some time
but now it's really satisfying now that it's all
complete. Its nice living in a place we have put so
much sweat equity into to make our own.

Wolfguard -- I havent read that book but I'll look for
it now.

Chris Marlowe -- I hope whup gets better.

White Wings -- heh. I see what you did there. :-)

Lostinamerica -- Its weird here now because we still
have snow on the ground and its been pretty cold
and yet the trees are STILL doing their pollen thing.
I thought the cold weather would hold off the pollen
season for longer but i guess not.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Mar 23 01:43:54 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Mar 23 01:45:11 2017
Christopher Marlowe,

To my mind, but how many historians, pundits, and fan-folks want to wait
that long? *g* Still, it's hard to honestly judge a presidency. People bring
different values and assumptions into play. Many believe JFK's crowning
achievement was his handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis, but there are some
who see in it failure.

But some effects of presidents' actions simply take decades to play-out.
This in turn ask the question, 'Was that the president's intent? To
accomplish something good decades after the fact? Probably not.'

James Polk saw the country expand across the continent, but many of his
contemporaries saw this achieved through war against a weaker neighbor
(Mexico). Eisenhower promoted the legislation leading to the building of the
interstate highway system. He pushed it as a defense measure, but was
that where the real benefits - and possibly costs - realized?1
LBJ's war in Vietnam is viewed as a grand failure, yet some believe the war
bought time for other countries in southeast Asia to develop economically.

It's hard to disentangle reality.


1 The interstates may have lead to a more homegenous culture, but
at the cost of local flavor. Deaths and injuries from accidents probably
increased, but better diets (?) may have resulted from more flexible and
speedier transportation. And then there's climate warming from all the cars.
How do we net it out?


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Mar 23 01:12:19 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Kennedy is still too soon?



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Mar 23 00:53:49 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Three or four generations. Everyone who had a personal stake in how a
presidency is judged has to be dead.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Mar 23 00:48:24 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard How long after a presidency can it be put in a proper historical context?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Mar 22 23:45:14 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who wrote the episode 'You're Welcome'?
Answer: David Fury

Trivia Head Writer: notsoshyGirl!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Mar 22 21:24:30 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO,

How so?

WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Mar 22 20:42:10 2017 199.127.148.6) [Edit/Delete]
Just found out my alias is typed in CamelCase.

wolfguard Reasonable. I think I confused with S-5.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Mar 22 20:32:44 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO,

I'd having to again watch the four episodes, Seeing Red, Villains, Two to
Go,
and Grave.

But off-the-cuff, at least 24 hours and more likely 36. Follow ...

Seeing Red ends with Warren killing Tara and wounding Buffy.

Villains begins in the same scene. Willow demanding a deity to save
Tara and Xander rushing Buffy to the hospital.

Willow goes to the Magic Box and absorbs the magicks and then to the
hospital to heal Buffy ...

It's still day when Willow stops the bus with the Warren-Bot.

It's night when Jonathan and Andrew are in jail and when Willow hunts down
and appears to kill Warren in the woods.

(insert somewhere in this time Willow's visit to magick-mojo man)

Everyone gravitates to the Magic Box for the big confrontation, fighty
fight, got Willow restrained - OOPS, Willow escapes but is tricked by Giles
so she's feeling the pain of it all, but that backfires leading Willow to
decide to end the world's pain by ending the world.

Leading to Willow going to Kingsman Bluff (?) to raise the stature and do
the magick. It's day then and it's day when Buffy and Dawn climb out of the
'grave' after slaying the root guys (did you like the smog in the air as
they walked out of the grave? Not I, too real. *g*)

So, a little over 24 hours.


WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Mar 22 19:57:32 2017 199.127.148.4) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard How do *you* read the chronology from Warren's shooting spree and Buffy and Dawn's climbing out of that hole in the ground?



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Mar 22 17:01:25 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
R.I.P Chuck Barry



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Mar 22 15:01:05 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Written and directed by David Fury



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Mar 22 14:54:14 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who wrote the episode 'You're Welcome'?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Mar 22 12:52:37 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Wednesday, March 22nd 2017 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


Duff
Liquid57
LittleDucky
Mr. Holtz
Phil PhuD
Samuel Vimes
Ye olde *** kicker

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Duff, Liquid57, LittleDucky, Mr. Holtz, Phil PhuD, Samuel Vines, Ye olde *** kicker!



You're not gonna jokey-rhyme your way out of this one. Willow, 'Pangs'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayofTheDay says:
(Wed Mar 22 12:46:16 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for amarra!

yay amarra!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Mar 22 03:15:30 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Mar 22 03:15:52 2017
Christopher Marlowe,

"Timing" - When the novel was set.

New York 2140: "New York during the 2142 congressional election."

The Collapsing Empire: "Circa AD 3500 (the Gregorian calendar is
passe by then)"


"Movie Pitch" for The Collapsing Empire ...

"Star Wars politics..." (Galactic Empire) "...in the key of
Firefly" (gritty, shiny, boots and dusters, rust, men with stubble)
I've not read the novel, this is my interpretation of the sentence. *g*


What's interesting to me is the original premise. There is not faster-than-
light travel, but there exist inter-dimensional spaces which allow
spacecraft to travel galactic distances in time-frames that allow a human
empire to exist. Within the story this inter-dimensional space is called
"The Flow". For some reason, "The Flow" changes cutting off some or all of
the planets and polities that comprise the Empire. Real life examples exist
for towns that were founded along major rivers which later change their
course. Another real-life example would be towns built along rail-road lines
that were later by-passed by interstate highways.

Off this, in The Mote in God's Eye-verse, FTL travel is done through
an analogous dimensional gobbly-gook way, but with a slight difference. One
can only enter and exit these FTL dimensions at certain points in space. In
between these points you can only travel at sub-light speeds using reaction-
engines (what we would now call "rockets"). So you might be able to travel
25 light-years from one star to another, but would then have to chug-along
from planet to planet with a star system.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Mar 22 02:53:36 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
white wings Thankfully it did, by the time the work day was over.



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white wings says:
(Wed Mar 22 02:47:05 2017 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay gypsyrat!

Happy Birthday Angela, Avarice, Corvus, Cranberie, jamo, Mystik Vamp, Morgain, and Rachie!


lostinamerica - What, unwilling to endure a little suffering in the name of scientific curiosity? Me neither. *g*

Christopher Marlowe - I hope your headache finally eased.

Maverick - Sorry, I have no clue either.



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Maverick says:
(Wed Mar 22 02:27:10 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
lostinamerica: You could have Googled it. Albert Einstein cc: white wings


Maverick


Incense and Peppermint




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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Mar 22 01:41:35 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
white wings--Well, I COULD have not taken any allergy meds on a day with a
high pollen count and seen what happened ;)


Maverick--I don't have a clue :(


ChristopherMarlowe--Hope you feel better!


Happy Birthday Corvus!


Yay! gypsyrat!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Mar 22 01:18:42 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I'm not sure what is meant by 'timing'. Whether something is set in the future, past or alternate history?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Mar 22 00:46:46 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I am trying to parse the 'star wars meets firefly'. The politics of Star Wars is essentially Galactic Empire vs the Rebels. Firefly is the Alliance and renegades.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Mar 21 23:20:45 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
This month's issue of Wired has a 2/3rd page piece, "Choose Your Own
Sci-Fi Adventure". It reviews two recent novels based on whether or not
they are 'doomy' or 'far-out" using eleven traits (my word). The novels are
Kim Stanley Robinson's New York 2140 and John Scalzi's The
Collapsing Empire
. I thought the traits might be interesting for
thinking about if one is writing their own story. So, here are the traits
...

1) Subgenre

2) Timing (when)

3) Disaster scenario

4) Favorite character

5) Best location (where/scene)

6) Daring rescues

7) Assassination attempts

8) Whole book in one line

9) Inventions we love

10) Movie pitch1

11) Are we doomed?


1 For The Collapsing Empire the pitch is "Star Wars
politics in the key of Firefly."



WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Mar 21 23:06:02 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: How old was Buffy at the start of the show?
Answer: 15

Trivia On the Nose; notsoShyGirl, DaddyCatALSO
Trivia comedians: Maverick!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Mar 21 21:34:24 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO,

The 'real-time' convention developed quickly enough that Prophecy Girl
was set at the end of the school year. That said, I've an open mind. What can
be learned form the text? Does the pilot/premiere say anything about Buffy
being a transfer student? When did she burn down the high school in LA?

The time elapse in sixth season's final arc doesn't support your argument - but
neither does it attack it. valMichael once posted, perhaps more than
once, on the actual time that passed in this or that episode. I believe he did
to so show there was plenty of time in each season for untold stories. OTOH, a
fictional story is suppose to be about the most important event in the
character's life and so what is not told is not important. OTO-OH, serials
cannot take that approach. OTOO-OH, this has caused problems for dramatic
serials.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Mar 21 19:39:36 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Whup is killing me today and the headache I woke up with is still with me. Stake me now...



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Mar 21 19:28:28 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard The real-time convention developed gradually, and wasn't always true. The end scene of Seeing Red to Buffy and Dawn climbing of that Grave was what, 2 days, 3 at most? I'm basing my chronology on the "winter sports" such a s basketball and wrestling starting before the new year.



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Maverick says:
(Tue Mar 21 19:08:23 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: An hour younger than she was at the end of the show.


Okay, I have a quote. Who said the following? "As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene. No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life. Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrase-mongers, however artful. No man can dispose of Christianity with a bon mot." What say, lostinamerica, white wings"?


Maverick


I Don't Know How to Love Him




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wolfguard says:
(Tue Mar 21 18:33:05 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue Mar 21 18:34:15 2017
Drive-By

Trivia Girl,

Buffy turned 18 in her senior year and therefore turned 17 in her junior year and therefore turned 16 in her sophomore year. Since we know her birthday is in January, the question becomes whether or not Welcome to the Hellmouth happened before or after her January birthday.

Since BtVS told its season stories in real-time, then it's reasonable to ask whether or not the first season, which was a half-season that ended in Spring was not set in the second half of the school year and if so, when?

There are probably textual clues.

To quote Giles, "...I'm sure my books and I are in for a fascinating afternoon."

Today's BtVS challenge, cite the episode from which the quote taken. *g*


-----


On China ...

"...Another key difference, she said, is 'We talk about the rule of law' while China talks about 'rule by law,' using it to assert what it believes is its.

- Catherine Lotrionte, Director of the Cyber Project at Georgetown University



WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Mar 21 17:40:44 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl I have to agree; given that in the second episode of the show Buffy et all were trying out for cheerleader for the basketball season, a nd that is a "winter" sport, and Buffy's birthday is in January, she was still 15 at the start of S-1.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Mar 21 15:28:33 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
15



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Mar 21 15:06:22 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: How old was Buffy at the start of the show?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Mar 21 12:56:44 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Tuesday, March 21st 2017 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


Angela
Avarice
Corvus
Cranberie/Sheila
jamo
MystikVamp
Morgain (Lil Starr1)
Rachie

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angela, Avarice, Corvus, Cranberie, jamo, Mystik Vamp, Morgain, Rachie!



It's called a blaster, Will, a word that tends to discourage experimentation. Now, if it were called the Orgasmater, I'd be the first to try your basic button press approach.
Xander, 'This Year's Girl' '''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayofTheDay says:
(Tue Mar 21 12:51:02 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue Mar 21 12:51:33 2017
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for gypsyrat!

yay gypsyrat!


As OldManFan is offline until next Thursday, the deadguy qod will be taking a hiatus too!

- CMarlowe



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white wings says:
(Tue Mar 21 02:19:13 2017 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Eiddileg!

Happy Birthday Embraced, lulu, SAS, and UK Slayer!

lostinamerica - That'll learn you! *g* wanders off and pops pills You know it's allergies when taking Benadryl perks you up.

Agent Cooper - Impressive DIY! So "Easy Installation" = "Some Assembly Required"?



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Maverick says:
(Tue Mar 21 01:33:47 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue Mar 21 01:42:27 2017
Trivia Girl: "My Ding-a-Ling" was a popular song sung by Chuck Berry. I wonder if that's where the question came from.


Christopher Marlowe: I like your question about "fake news." It assures me you are still trying to make sense of things. I'd explain what fake news is, but you would take whatever I say and head in the opposite direction from it. You would be taking a "fake" interpretation of it. See how that works? BTW, fake news is not true (objectively.) It seeks to deceive.


Agent Cooper: No doubt, your kids will always remember you struggling with your project. It will be a fond memory, so clearly worth the effort on many levels. Not going to answer what your previous Board Name was? Of course I really like your current name because I liked the original "Twin Peaks." New episodes seem to be premiering May 21st (on Netflix) and there are 30 in the new batch. Information. Also in May, in the theaters, a "restoration" version of "Mulholland Drive" by David Lynch will appear. A real experience in David Lynch's quirkiness and at the end you will believe you have really been through the wringer. And believe, as I did the year it came out, that Naomi Watts deserved the Oscar. I loved it. Go see it if you can. Not for kids (on many levels.)


Maverick


"Twin Peaks"




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wolfguard says:
(Tue Mar 21 01:19:00 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

LOL!

Ever read Sam Watkins' Civil War memoir, Company Aytch?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Mar 21 00:57:21 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard That makes a lot of sense. There is a term, 'clickbait', a link/newstory/headline that encourages folks to click on the link. Fake news with a shocking headline would do it, but I also like that fake news is too good to be true. *g*



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Mar 21 00:53:23 2017 100.4.183.212) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard -- This has nothing to do with anything,
but I just recently read a soldier story from the civil
war. A cocky confederate soldier was surrendering
with his unit, waiting to swear allegiance to the US.
He didn't care for the Union officer in charge, who
was not being very gracious in victory, and at one
point the soldier said "yeah, well we sure whipped
you yanks at Fredericksburg!" The Union officer
didn't like this and threatened to throw the soldier
into prison. After they had formally surrendered
and swore allegiance the Union officer remarked to
the cocky confederate soldier "well you,re one of
us now."

"Yup," said the soldier, "and those rebels sure
gave us a whipping at Fredericksburg."



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Mar 21 00:48:24 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Another way to assess a news story is to ask does the teller benefit in some
way from the story? Conversely, does a party benefit in some way from
declaring a news story, 'fake news'?

What's the track record of the news reporter? Any history of reporting news
that was later shown to be at odds with the facts? Do they cite their
sources in a way that the sources can be checked or their stories checked?
1

Real-life usually doesn't consistently favor or disfavor the same person or
organization (unless an individual is at the very, very top or bottom of the
social heap).


1 For instance, "My source said person X attended a meeting with
Y in Paris on such-and-such date." or "The oil tanker "Pegasus" steamed into
the Black Sea from the Med last week."



WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Mar 21 00:30:39 2017 100.4.183.212) [Edit/Delete]
On vacation this week, so posting sporadically. I
usually post from whup. heh.

Put a new kitchen floor in. It looks great but boy
was that alot of work. Every box of flooring had the
words EASY INSTALLATION stamped on it. Every
time I opened a new box I thought "easy
installation my #%% "

;-)



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Mar 21 00:26:38 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Fake news tends to be more interesting. Fake news often has a better
storyline. Some author or editor said ~ fiction has to be make sense (has to
be logical). Real life often is messy.

One solider who served in WWI said ~ being in a battle is the worst place to
be if you want to understand the battle (I'm paraphrasing this quite a bit).
He was in two major battles. Of one he said, ~ I saw soldiers run up a hill
~ and in the other, ~ I saw a tank come down a hill ~. *g*

A better example...

The Korean War began when the North Koreans invaded South Korea, I believe
25 June 1950 (a Sunday?). They experienced early success, driving the South
Korean army and the tag-team American army units1 down the Korean
peninsula. The South Korean/American forces formed a perimeter in the
immediate area around Pusan, Korea, where they managed to hold off the North
Korean Army until MacArthur and company did an end run and took Inchon,
Korea (near Seoul). cutting off the North Korea army. Knowing what happened
and viewed from a distance, this is logical. But for the soldiers running
around the countryside surrounding Pusan, it was not. One soldier said he
had no idea what the higher-up's were up to. They just kept loading us into
trucks, driving somewhere, dismounting and fighting and then doing it again.

Fiction is planned. Real life is contingent. Fiction works smoothly, Real
life is full of pitfalls. Fiction makes sense. Real life has unanswered
questions.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Mar 20 23:41:52 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I wonder how one can tell 'fake news' from the real thing.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Mar 20 23:09:17 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Comma I dont' think I can remember any veep!



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Comma says:
(Mon Mar 20 16:55:44 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Trivial Girl: I was going to say, 'Hillary Clinton and her Vice president pick'. Notsoshygirl is correct.

Speaking of VP candidates, I studied, in Germany, under a History Professor who knew every person's name, elected or unelected, who ever ran for that office. I do not remember any of them past Eisenhower.

Comma



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Mar 20 15:04:06 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Hokey Wolf is a Hanna-Barbera cartoon about the adventures of a con-artist wolf
who is always trying to cheat his way into the simple life. He is often
accompanied alongside by his young, diminutive, sidekick Ding-A-Ling Wolf, both
of whom are featured as part of The Huckleberry Hound Show in their own segment.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Mar 20 14:45:54 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Cartoons
Question: What Hanna-Barbera cartoon characters had a sidekick named Ding-A-Ling?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Mar 20 13:47:20 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Monday, March 20th 2017 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Angelcakes aka ripped toast
Bianca Lawson as Kendra
Embraced
lulu
SAS (SoAnya's Sister)
UK slayer

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Bianca Lawson, Embraced, lulu, SAS, UK Slayer!



I can beat up demons until the cows come home, and then I can beat up the cows.
Buffy, 'Intervention'' '''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Mar 20 13:30:41 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay eiddileg!


Happy Vernal Equinox



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Mar 20 12:48:06 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
white wings, ChristopherMarlowe--That was quick, high pollen levels today,
so much for that :(



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Mar 20 11:51:50 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for eiddileg!

yay eiddileg!


Happy Vernal Equinox!



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Mar 20 10:40:30 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
white wings, ChristopherMarlowe--I haven't started taking my over-the-
counter allergy meds yet, so far only medium high pollen counts here--I'm
thinking I'll try to wait until they hit high levels, see if I can make it ;)



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white wings says:
(Mon Mar 20 03:20:09 2017 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday kate228 and Maeve

Christopher Marlowe - Beautiful day out there. Also pollens and sleep-
inducing allergy meds. Or maybe just lazy. *g*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Mar 20 02:39:20 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
an extra slow Sunday! I hope everyone enjoyed their day, no matter where they are.



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Comma says:
(Sun Mar 19 21:04:51 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
R.I.P. Bernie Wrightson, the co-creator of 'Swamp Thing'. If the Germans had not use them, starting in 1939, I would think that the sniper's burlap drape came from Swamp Thing. The Germans made them out of pieces of cloth camo nets.

Comma



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Mar 19 19:36:24 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By

~Really harsh~

*g*


WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Mar 19 13:09:56 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Sunday March 19th 2017 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


kate228
Maeve

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to kate228, Maeve!



Whatever happened to the still beating heart of a virgin? No one has any standards anymore. iles, 'Enemies'' '''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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Maverick says:
(Sun Mar 19 05:19:46 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Mar 19 06:56:38 2017
gordy: That was one of the links I provided in my "Nostalgia" links. The final night of the WB Bronze when Steven Deaton of Apollo gave out the V.I.P color codes and wackiness ensued and prevailed. The only one I see who posted then who regularly still posts HERE is white wings. (Oooh, correction--I see a post from wolfguard AND, of all people abt.) (Another correction--Christopher Marlowe also posted on the last day and Beldin too.) (Sadly, I saw Gray, ducky, and Algerina also posted on that fateful day.) Just remember, to make sense of the conversations, etc., go to the very bottom of the page for the earliest posts and you then have to read upward for subsequent posts.


Maverick


Private Eyes




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Mar 19 02:42:43 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Comma I just heard the
news...



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Comma says:
(Sat Mar 18 22:29:35 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Sad to have to say, 'R.I.P. Chuck Berry!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Mar 18 21:25:32 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
too nice to stay inside...driving by
much like wolfguard did. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Mar 18 18:00:01 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By

Lostinamerica,

~ really harsh ... back in the day ~

*G*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Mar 18 17:30:27 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
It's a beautiful day in the
neighborhood!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Mar 18 15:26:08 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Saturday, March
18th 2017 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Babie_Buffy
prettygul2
Sam Jayne

Happy Birthday from the Bronze,
to Babie Buffy, prettygul2,
Sam Jayne!



What is your childhood trauma?
Cordelia, 'Welcome To The
Hellmouth' '''


to be added to the birthday list,
please email
oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Mar 18 14:55:17 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
good mornign beta!



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lostinamerica says:
(Sat Mar 18 14:22:41 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick--I read those lines from Mark recently, and I think the
reason why the apostles couldn't cast out the demon had something to
do with their not being fully committed to the faith, something like that.

One thing I've noticed is when you compare the Old Testament to the new you
realize God was really harsh back in the day ;)



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OldManFan says:
(Sat Mar 18 12:45:54 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
gordy - I remember meeting
you at PoL and Petrona's wedding.
It's good to hear from you again.

OMF



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white wings says:
(Sat Mar 18 05:40:16 2017 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Thank goodness it's back. I get nervous and querulous when it isn't here.

Happy St. Patrick's Day

Happy Birthday Anya, Lost Boy, and Phoenix

gordy - Sure, camera angle. Good story. ;-) To be sure, Prince of Lunacy and Petrona are remembered here. Did you mean Icelord? She finds her way here from time to time. It's a small, small world. Good times. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Mar 18 04:51:13 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Gordy,

The Zeppo, a classic.


BUFFY
The heart, Faith! Go for its heart!

*g*


A British friend once told it took four hours to watch just the hi-lights of a
cricket game. *g*



WG



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gordy says:
(Sat Mar 18 04:40:13 2017 95.150.108.35) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sat Mar 18 04:41:36 2017
wolfguard Wow! Yes! I
remember that too now you've said
it; the html tags for the colours
were authorised and we went
mental with them. It was the end
of an era. And yes, some good posters
never came back :(

It's half two in the morning here
and I've been working on a new
electronic scoreboard for my
cricket club (yes, terribly
British I know) whilst re-
watching GoT. I think I may just
put on my favourite BtVS ep
instead; The Zeppo.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Mar 18 04:30:45 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Gordy,

I remember the last night of the Bronze. All the colors. *g* I also remember
feeling like it was the last day of my last year at summer camp. I would
never be seeing these people again. :(

And then there was the Bronze Beta/ :)


Christopher Marlowe,

Around a decade or so ago there was book titled, The Next American
Century
. One of the authors' points was that there were other countries
who saw the sun rising for them. Nevertheless, America would remain the
leading power. Apparently not.

And is not because President Trump doesn't want to pay the freight, but
because some of his own supporters don't want to pay the freight. To be fair
to them, they recognize one of the other points made by the authors, ~ While
the up-and-coming powers want respect and want to have a say in how the
world will be run, they also would prefer to pay as little in the pot as
possible.

OTOH, these new powers share an ambivalence with many of Trump's supporters:
They see advantages in letting the US oversee the world's affairs, but they
don't always like how the US runs it; whereas, some of Trump's supporters
may want to see the US overseeing the world - 'Make America Great Again -
but don't want to pay the premium that comes with being the top dog.

Reminds me of Britain trying to run an empire on the cheap. Saw with that
got them.


WG



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gordy says:
(Sat Mar 18 04:10:34 2017 95.150.108.35) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl I remember not being able to answer your questions back
in the day thinking "I should really know that. I've watched that ep a
dozen times. Why don't I know that?!" Warms my heart to
see you still doing this.

wolfguard That doesn't only ring a bell, it jangles keys and waves
shiny things in front of my eyes. I remember there being a scramble to find
somewhere to post for a month or five when the WB Bronze shut. Me and
Spikmeister (sp?) went to the Australian Bronze (which had a white
background which was very weird) before the Beta appeared. And thank you,
it's nice to be back.

Maverick Now that link does take me back; Geocities-tastic. I love it
*g*

white wings Thank you *g* If I recall correctly Britslayer had me in
her sig (Oh god, whatever happened to my sig?!) saying that I looked at her
bum. I would like to reiterate that the photo taken at the UKPBFP 2000
(2001?) was taken from a strange angle and I did nothing of the sort.

DaddyCatALSO I remember those other rooms. They were not the Bronze
that I knew and loved.

I don't know if anyone remembers the names but I went to Petrona and Prince
of Lunacy's wedding back in 2003 with Ice. I bumped into Rainbow Skye at the
supermarket a couple years back, which is 200 yards from my house, we both
did a double take (quadruple take?), walked on and messaged each other on
Live Journal later saying "Was that you I saw?!" That may not sound
that amazing but I only met her twice before at a couple UKPBFPs in the
early 00s and we lived 150 miles apart.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Mar 18 04:02:33 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard People seem to have a lot riding on Merkel!



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Mar 18 04:00:40 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Obligatory Politics *g*

((~Today, President Donald Trump met with Chancellor Angela Merkel,
leader of the free world. - a commentator.
))


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Mar 18 02:40:50 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
I could go for a shamrock shake right now.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Mar 18 01:03:36 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
AGent Cooper I was wondering what was up too! But it did allow me to do a LOT of work today. ;)



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Mar 17 23:41:06 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Oh, it's back. Thank goodness. Couldn't get into the Bronze most of the day.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Mar 17 22:41:10 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
gordy Maverick I hand't realized much about psoting boards when I had access to the Itnernet in '8-'99, but I got it again in January of '02 when my brother in law got a computer. By then UPN had set up both a Threaded and Linear board. I was regular on the Threaded but it wasn't moderated and got taken over by joy-spammers during summer. Also the aliases were tied tot eh ISP so when I had to switch to library computers I had to change alias form daddykat to DaddyCatALSO, but they re-formatted and soon UPN's Bronze was infested with chatlice, so I had to go searching, and found here, the Bronze Alternative, and hellmouthcentral RIP.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Mar 17 20:04:38 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
First in the Morning!


*g*



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Mar 17 06:54:35 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Britslayer!



Buffy Quotes



Night All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Mar 17 06:33:23 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Mar 17 06:34:30 2017
Pie Chart of Federal Spending (DailyKos)

"...Here's 2013 Federal spending all in one beautiful pie chart..." (Source: Congressional Budget Office)

The advantage in this chart is three-fold. First, it predates Candidate Trump / President Trump, so one cannot use it to defend or attack him. Second, the general proportions between mandatory and discretionary spending tend to be the same, year in and year out. Third, the uses of the mandatory spending are the same, year in and year out: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and interest on the national debt.


WG



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white wings says:
(Fri Mar 17 05:35:59 2017 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay BritSlayer!

Happy Birthday Ashley, AuroraStar, Holly, John, NightOwl, Shadow, and Wee Lord of Chaos!

gordy - Welcome home.


Christopher Marlowe - Without even getting to the content of the budget, the problem is that we have a group of elected representatives groomed over the last eight years to equate "let's work on it" with "I don't need you, I don't like you, your concerns are of no concern to me, and it's my way or the highway". People who were elected in reaction to that attitude are programmed to obstruct, and the ones who used to rule the roost will sullenly do likewise. And so we have the spectacle of a businessman asking this bunch to act like the politicians they claim to be rather than children having tantrums, but they don't believe that he means it. I think he does. From what I've heard outside of politics, he goes in with a negotiating position which may not be where he wants to wind up. But it won't work if no one will talk.

I've seen a bunch of adults behaving like this. It was years ago at work. A bunch of big fishes in their little ponds were brought together to provide input to a statewide system that they didn't believe in. It was so bad that we had to hire an outside manager because everyone in-house was too jaded. Even with upper management pushing the project, they sat and sullenly argued for months. Actually, there were two iterations of the project, so it took longer than that. I was trapped with some other sufferers sitting in back chairs taking notes, desperately trying to glean actual concerns and knowledge from the bickering. And at some point, I noticed that the air in the room had changed. I heard one executive director say to a superintendent "I'd really like to have this, but I know it won't work for you." Then all of them were doing that. And we finally were able to develop a system. But it took longer to get cooperation than it did to design, code, test, and implement the system. That's a problem for a budget.

From what I've skimmed, the proposed budget is a real bear, but a bear of a budget might be better than winding up the way Greece did. Maybe not this bear in its current fur, but some bear. A hybrid bear. *g*



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Maverick says:
(Fri Mar 17 04:53:51 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
gordy: No, the Buffy Postingboard was originally started by TVJames as the Ultimate TV Buffy Board, then it was "bought" by the WB as the "Lounge" then it became by popular demand "The Bronze" on the WB Website. When the UPN later picked up the show it was briefly on a UPN-sponsored site but was cut loose until it was "rescued" by Artie and Pheonix as the "The Bronze Beta." Some of the history of the Bronze has been saved by me on my website Maverick's Home Page. If you go down the page to the "Nostalgia" link, you will find a page with further links to the history. If it feels good seeing this Bronze Beta screen, you will be overjoyed when you catch sight of the old "WB Bronze page." Through the Internet Archive (the WayBack Machine) I have found some of these old pages of Posts, and etc. I have at least 2 full weeks-worth of posts available to peruse. Enjoy and wallow in the memories.


Maverick


Tub Thumping




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wolfguard says:
(Fri Mar 17 04:00:09 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

This is when one examines the history of presidents' budgets to see how they
have fared.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Mar 17 03:39:24 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard As far as I am reading, Trump's budget is based on what he promised in his campaign. There doesn't appear to be too many people who think any of it will really pass.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Mar 17 03:25:32 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I'm just hoping there some grown-up's helping him up the learning curve.

Buffy posted under two names, one was "Kristi Anne".

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Mar 17 01:16:43 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Read about Trump's
unveiling of his new budget today.
About the only thing guaranteed is
that it riles folks up. *g*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Mar 17 00:18:06 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard If Buffy had posted on a chat forum, I wonder what her name would be?



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Mar 16 22:45:29 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Gordy,

After BtVS finished its five-year with the WB it switched over to UPN and the
Bronze ended. This was the spring of 2001. Sometime during the summer the
Bronze Beta appeared.

Welcome back. *g*

WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Mar 16 22:20:45 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Language
Question: What is Phaseolus vulgaris better known as?
Answer: Common bean

Trivia Full of Beans: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Needs Bean-o: Agent Cooper

gordy A few of us hardy souls are hanging in here.



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gordy says:
(Thu Mar 16 20:59:00 2017 82.9.134.245) [Edit/Delete]
I can't even remember the last
time I posted here and I'm not
sure if the first time was in
1998, 1999 or 2000. I'm not even
sure if it was Beta or we
migrated? DId I imagine that?

For two or three years (at least)
I would mash F5 during dull
moments at work (and moments when
I supposed to be working too of
course) chatting on here.

Man, it feels weird seeing this
screen! Good weird though! I had
fun here.

How are you all? Well I hope.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Mar 16 18:26:40 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Mar 16 18:01:38 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
I hope everyone had a good morning!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Mar 16 14:53:57 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Phaseolus vulgaris, the common bean, is also known as the string bean, field
bean, flageolet bean, French bean, garden bean, green bean, haricot bean, pop
bean, snap bean, or snap



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Mar 16 14:35:15 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Language
Question: What is Phaseolus vulgaris better known as?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Mar 16 13:18:08 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, March 16th 2017 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


Ashley
AuroraStar
Holly
John
NightOwl
Shadow
Wee Lord of Chaos (Icelord's Childe)

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Ashley, AuroraStar, Holly, John, NightOwl, Shadow, Wee Lord of Chaos!



Cacophony. That's pretty. What's it mean?Harmony, 'Disharmony''''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Mar 16 13:13:05 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay britslayer!


Happy CD Thursday!


Not playing any cd at the moment, but Marty Stuart's 'Way Out West' is looking good.



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Mar 16 11:58:26 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer
for britslayer!

yay britslayer!



Happy CD Thursday!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Mar 16 11:55:39 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard That's why I decided, since I already felt committed to my 2026 "Chidlren Of the 'Dale" fics, that I would follow along on *Angel* and in the comics until I found a necessary breakpoint, which for me was before vampires came "out of the coffin" with Harmony's reality show.
Likewise, "The World Beyond the Wall" breaks after Jonathan dies but before Jasmine is born, and Ice Age Buffy" breaks at the amusment park in "Seeign red."

Agent Cooper Yes, I needed a transition between " canon Buffy with some resurrections" to my actual Children Of the Dale 'verse, so I came up with that storyline, the actual possession occurring in my fic "New MExico Rocky Mountian High," but tying back to Giles's avoiding t he Bringer's ax.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Mar 16 07:52:16 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Kiba Rika!


DaddyCatALSO,

Since 2003 I've written ten 8th season stories. Intended to write 22, but no deadlines means procrastination rules. Anyway, see the footnote. *g*

As you had your desires guiding the tales, so did I. One of mine was to first deal with problems left behind with Chosen. The key problem - and opportunity - was finding the new slayers. Joss bowed to this with Willow and Dawn's exchange in the final scene. But even before they could begin this quest they first had to find a safe harbor, get a roof over their heads, feed the crew, etc. Given the situation, what would Buffy do? Link-up with Angel in LA. And that's where I started, though I very quickly set Buffy and Willow on a mission far, faraway.

Still, looking back at the other season premieres and eyeing a new start, think I would do it differently now. All began in the fall and all began in Sunnydale. Everyone, characters and fans alike, could spend the summer elsewhere, but we all got back together when the leaves turned colors (did they in Sunnydale? *g*). But that wasn't possible this time. Sunnydale was gone and things needed to be attended to that could not wait three months.

And then there was the problem of trying to start a new story in an old setting, which would be the Hyperion Hotel in LA. So, I'm doing the crazy artist thing and tossing away much of what I wrote and reknitting my take on 8th season.

It's going to be fun. :)


Footnote - ~10 episodes is the new 13, was the new 22~ (vulture.com)



Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

At the end of each show's run, would you say you were more of a fan of BtVS or Angel?

BTVS



*G*


Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Mar 16 03:52:38 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

President Trump's legacy will exist in the minds of those who lived through it,
are exposed to it in school rooms, or study it either as amateurs or
professionals. The tweets will be one source of primary "documents', but there
will be many other sources.

In the end, what matters is what he does or fails to do and how his actions
affect Americans and the world. As is true for all presidents, some will see
themselves as having benefited from his presidency and others not.

He comes across as an amateur politician, but there are possibilities in such.
OTOH, many practices of politicians exist because they work in achieving
political ends.


WG



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Maverick says:
(Thu Mar 16 01:39:27 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe: I think in the future books will be written about how Trump was or was not able to counter the Fake News and Lies being spread by the Mainstream Media. I'm surprised George Soros has not bought Twitter, as it always seems to be in financial difficulty. He could effectively muzzle Trump and leave him with no way to inform the public of what is ACTUALLY going on.


Maverick


Ferry 'Cross the Mersey




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Maverick says:
(Thu Mar 16 01:31:47 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Christophe Marlowe, lostinamerica: Funny you should mention "fasting" recently as I read something in the Bible the other day that puzzled me. Jesus and his disciples were traveling about and he gave them the ability to drive out demons and also to heal somewhat. But then there was the case of a Man who brought his son to Jesus "having a dumb spirit" and the man had spoken to the disciples and asked them to help to cast out his son's demon, but they could not. Jesus, after talking to the demon, DID cast him out. Later the disciples asked Jesus why they failed and Jesus said, Mark:9:28 "This kind can go out by nothing, but by prayer and fasting."


Agent Cooper: When I lived in Buffalo for 3 years, I always found it interesting that the main streets got plowed so well that at times if you were coming from a side street you might encounter a slush-frozen wall that you had to punch through to get onto the well-plowed main drag. But sometime you didn't quite get through and got hung up on it and then had to dig yourself out (I carried a shovel and pick and kitty litter.) But they always seemed to take it for granted that you could get around in the snow, and I can't ever remember a day when we weren't expected to make it to work.


Maverick


Jump




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Mar 16 01:22:38 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I'm wondering if Trump's legacy as President will be captured in tweets.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Mar 16 01:05:54 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I found myself following a twitter 'discussion' today. President Trump objected to a music video by Snoop Dogg in which he who pointed a joke gun at fake Trump figure.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Mar 15 23:41:45 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Hereabouts

WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Mar 15 23:02:20 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydales Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What kind of demon was Sajhan?
Answer: Granok

Trivia Master: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Newbie: Agent Cooper



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Mar 15 21:54:20 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper--Good Lord, even W&H wouldn't have done that to its
employees! Glad you made it home OK!

Note to self: when your workplace compares unfavorably to a fictional
place run by demons, time to re-evaluate. . .



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werewolf123 says:
(Wed Mar 15 21:47:34 2017 68.12.72.107) [Edit/Delete]
Klute by william johnston (1972)



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Mar 15 20:43:58 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Daddycat: Giles gets possessed by Mephistopheles. That's what did it. :-)


Chris Marlowe: Yup, still digging out. But way better today. Kids got a second snow day out of it though. I'll have to snowblow the driveway again when I get home, then I'm putting up the snowblower for the REST OF THE WINTER. YOU HEAR ME MOTHER NATURE? I'M TALKING TO YOU!!!........



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Mar 15 19:39:01 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Mar 15 20:35:16 2017
Agent Cooper. I don't know. My daughter discovered BtVS on her own when she was six, and watched basically everything up through late in S-4. Of coruse, she also had her own copy of Jurassic Park a t age 3 and was fine with it.

And why did my psot remind you of that?*g



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Mar 15 17:46:18 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Daddycat: Your post made me think of that ep when Giles gets turned into a demon. Good lord, that was frickin hilarious. I think I'll dig out my DVDs and watch it tonight.

Actually I think better yet I'll get my 9yo to watch with me. I think maybe she can handle some lighter BTVS eps now. Well, light as BTVS gets anyway.

Is that bad parenting?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Mar 15 17:43:32 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper ARe you digging yourself out yet?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Mar 15 17:17:24 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Well considering I have written prequels dating dated as far back as 2004...

Okay, basically the characters go through the whole thing in the comics up to just before "harmonic divergence," with a few entropic hangover's after, but no nuclear subs, Tibetan villages, vampire stuffed animals, destruction of the Seed and magic "KAHNNN!!!!", any of that. Haevn' touched on Twilight flat out but he'll turn out to be a simulacrum, nnot a 5th personality of Angel himself.
In a stoiry I will never write, Buffy, Willo,w and Kennedy investigate spooky doings on a movie set. Jared makes a wish and smashes the amulet, Willow visits the Old Phoenix Tavern From Poul Anderson. after the After the Fall" comics. Faith, in an effort by the Buffy-Giles Machien to make peace with another group of Watc hers working to th same ends but s[separately, spends some time in San Bernardino, so does Harmony.
In early '05, Angel and his surviving friends decide to set up a new office, but can't find apalce right away. Willow intervenes, finds a spot, and some Slayers fix it up for them, and invite them over, a twhich time Kennedy and Spike snark a t each other a bit. Crody shwos up, revealing she had moved Wesley's body to a pocket dimension which has no time and she ahs just had him revived, and they have Fred's soul in a magick jar. Willow (with help from Harmony, IKenendy,a nd Faith) uses the Einstien relationship to "spin off" a body for Fred form Illyria's demonic energy. Harmony disappears for two weeks, comes back with facial scars and very large knife.

Meanwhile, D'Hoffryn approaches Giles to paly a game for Anya's future, a dn gets Jenny back as his participation trophy (choice of her, Kendra, Joyce , or Lydia, a nd his choice makes the bad guys mad.)

Meanwhile, Willow is in the Midwest taking some business information's systems courses, not a full MAsters Program, just a certificate she'll need when she starts he r own firm. Kennedy is taking basic freshman courses, tells Willow she needs to find a way to g et Tara back, and transfers to her parent's alma mater. Willow goes on a quest, Tara chooses to return. Jonathan comes back as a side effect.
Now we're getting to things you've read, some of them, August-September '05. Xander's cousin Lee marries his demon bride and Xander finds Anya. Giles gets possessed by Mephistopheles who, just before teleporting away, tells Jenny she's pregnant.

In January, all the heroes join to defeat Mephistopheles, Buffy suffers her disability, and both Angel and Harmony are re-humanized by a backblast of radiation, and Fred, Anya, and Willow all have fertilized eggs in them looking for a spot to implant. In '07, Cordelia collects her first husband.

Afetr that, there are a few years of gathering babies, and occasional adventures (in early 2013, Faith is presumed dead and Jonathan and Harmony get guardianship of her daughter) until in 2026 we have "Everyone, Autumn is the Slayer!"



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Mar 15 17:15:14 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Sajhan was a Mustard Demon, just like his brothers Dijaon and Pouphon.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Mar 15 15:13:48 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Sahjhan, commonly known as the Timeshifter, was a demon of the Granok species.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Mar 15 14:49:38 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydales Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What kind of demon was Sajhan?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Mar 15 13:16:15 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Wednesday, March 15th 2017 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


bbob
TheShawn
Toiletduck
willNxand

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to bbob, TheShawn, Toiletduck, willNxande!



Looks like civilization finally caught up with us.Mal, 'Bushwhacked'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Mar 15 13:06:07 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay kiba rika!

deadguy qod

I was definitely more of a fan of Buffy than Angel, I would be more likely to pop in a Buffy ep than Angel one these days.


Happy non-Angel Wednesday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Mar 15 12:51:17 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica: And I was only half joking. It was terrible yesterday. My company sucks when it comes to this stuff. We should never have been required to come in, the roads were absolutely treacherous. It was snowing way to fast for the plows to keep anything clear. Every other business in town was closed and telling their people not to come in. My boss didn't even come in, and then sent an email around noon from home saying you could leave if you "didn't feel safe" --BUT you would be docked vacation or personal time. In another dept the manager sent an email to the secretary with a list of names of people who didn't come in because of the storm to make sure they were docked---AND CCed THE WHOLE DEPT. Seriously.

Finally around 1:30 (about 3 hours after the roads were beyond help) the the big boss told us we could leave. I drove a co worker home who's car was completely buried, and I could only get her within a few blocks of her house, she had to walk the rest of the way because we couldn't make it to her street with the car. I just barely made it home myself.

Short version: I don't work for nice people.



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Mar 15 12:29:41 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper--LOL! Good
points about why you SHOULDN'T have
been at work yesterday :)


Yay! Kiba Rika!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Mar 15 10:59:47 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Mar 15 11:00:55 2017
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for kiba rika!

yay kiba rika!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

fandom, inc. - need fans... we have them

at the end of each show's run, would you say you were more of a fan of btvs or
angel?


Happy non-Angel Wednesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Mar 15 08:22:38 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Tiamat!

Happy Birthday Tiamat!


Trivia Girl - Is this the first time a bronzer had a yay day on a birthday?


Happy Birthday Mercedes McNab!



Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question


Are watchers still a thing or is it just Giles?

As of 2017? I'd have to do some research. OTOH, there were watchers in the early years after Chosen.



Belated Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

How would the scooby gang handle a serious journalistic investigation?

They would look to guidance on how UFO's were presented and covered.




Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Mar 15 03:05:20 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Footnote to last post ...

They Shoot Horses Don't They? is a very depressing movie.

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Mar 15 02:44:52 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Fonda won her first Oscar for her role as Bree. She'd been nominated a year
or two earlier for They Shoot Horses Don't They?1. Some
people believe she did not win then, because of her anti-war activities.

Sometime in the mid-70's there was biography Fonda that began, as I
remember, with the Oscar Awards. People were expecting if she won, she would
use the opportunity to do the Meryl Streep thing (well, they didn't use that
example *g*). She won. Stepped onto the stage - believe she was wearing
something simple, perhaps black.

FONDA
There's much that needs to be said, but this is not the time or place. Thank
you.


The biographer said she'd learn from her dad, Henry Fonda, that sometimes
little is more.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Mar 15 02:38:20 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I saw it for the first time tonight. I thought Jane Fonda was great in it. As a thriller/suspense movie, it wasn't very good, but I was really intrigued by the possibilities of Bree and Klute's relationship.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Mar 15 01:28:47 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I've seen it twice.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Mar 15 00:21:36 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Huh...lost the beta for a little
bit.

wolfguard Have you ever seen
a movie called Klute?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Mar 14 23:45:00 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What episode would you have heard the 'Prayer of Saint Francis'?
Answer: Grave

Trivia Resurrected: wolfguard, notsoShyGirl



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Mar 14 22:40:48 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Thank you!

*g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Mar 14 19:03:00 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Excellent answer!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Mar 14 18:38:38 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl,

Grave (Sara M. performing)


WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Mar 14 15:25:02 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
At the end of the sixth season in "Grave"



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Mar 14 14:38:14 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What episode would you have heard the 'Prayer of Saint Francis'?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Mar 14 13:22:49 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper I can count on one hand the number of times our building closed due to weather and thats' in the 20+ years I've worked here. And most of those times where when the roads were closed down by the city or state.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Mar 14 12:12:09 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Well, made it to whup, but it's pretty bad out there. We are now under a genuine blizzard warning. At least there's no traffic because everything is closed. And I mean everything. Except us here at Wolfram and Hart MY wonderful place of business, of course. God forbid we miss ONE SALE, anybody's personal safety be damned. But there won't be any sales. Because everybody is closed. Logic is not a friend to the evil taskmasters benevolent management here. They're lucky to have such a obedient slave to their corporate greed dedicated, loyal employee like me to come in on a day like today.

Chris Marlowe: Well, that's encouraging. We usually get your weather about a week after you do. Maybe it will melt all the snow. :-)

Wolfguard: That's exactly what happened up here. February felt like March, and March is becoming alot like February.

Lostinamerica: I wish I were down south today, that's for sure. I remember being stationed in NC and everything closed for 3" of snow. That was astounding to a kid from Upstate NY. We can handle snow okay up here and don't close things down lightly. It has to be a majorly bad snow thing to stop business here. And today is a Majorly Bad Snow Thing.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Mar 14 11:51:39 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Tuesday, March 14th 2017 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Buffyenta
Mercedes McNab as Harmony Kendall
SherBear
Tiamat

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Buffyenta, Mercedes McNab, SherBear, Tiamat!



Mal: You want to tell me how come there's a statue of you here looking at me like I owe him something? Jayne: Wishing I could, Captain.'Jaynestown' '''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Mar 14 11:48:00 2017 100.6.23.183) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue Mar 14 11:49:23 2017
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for tiamat

yay tiamat!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

sunnydale optical - are you sure you want to see this well

are watchers still a thing or is it just giles?


Happy PI Day!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Mar 14 11:44:58 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Yeah. I'm not religious at all, so I don't do lent, but the discussion around it has been interesting. It's sort of a part of a larger discussion on social justice.



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Mar 14 11:32:30 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper--Good luck to
you today :) Too bad you're not
in the South--you could stay home
for several days with a snowfall
like that ;)


wolfguard--Us too :(


ChristopherMarlowe,
wolfguard
--When you stop to
think about it, Christians,
Muslims and Jews all fast at some
point of the year--I wonder how
that got started?



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Mar 14 03:47:48 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Another example where fasting is combined with sacred time?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Mar 14 02:51:27 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard My weekend was very slow, partly because I chose to stay inside for most of it and not socialize too much.

I did venture out Sunday night, I'm part of a new group that has been discussing various religious-themed topics. For the past week or two, we've been discussing Lent.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Mar 14 01:35:45 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Chilly and damp. Atlanta seems to be getting its February weather in March.
There were several days this February when I wore t-shirts and shorts. How was
your weekend?


Just heard, ~ He was a KGB agent. By definition he has no soul. - Hillary
Clinton on Vladimir Putin.

*g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Mar 14 01:34:11 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper WE appear to be getting a heat wave soon in my neck of the woods.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Mar 14 01:10:56 2017 100.4.183.212) [Edit/Delete]
Well we are going to get hit with a major blizzard
tomorrow. Schools are already closing and it
hasn't even started yet. Should be a super fun
commute tomorrow. Yay.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Mar 14 00:42:42 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard How was the weekend?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Mar 13 23:41:24 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Music
Question: Who exhorted people to do the dance move, The Fly?
Answer; Chubby Checker

Trivia Twinkle Toes: OldManFan, notsoShygirl
Trivia two left feet: MAverick



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Mar 13 18:33:09 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO,

I'm going to do you favor. *g* Tell us what happened to each of the characters between the end of Chosen and the time your verse is set. Just the key turning points, at least one or two for each season between. *g*


WG



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Maverick says:
(Mon Mar 13 18:12:14 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Major Lance.


Agent Cooper: What WAS your old pseudonym? Come on and reveal it--I'll only mock you about it for a few days. But in the meantime I'll find you somewhere on some Board. After all there WERE multiple pages of the final days of the bronze (remember the Board turned over 4 times a day--thus posting "First" four times a day was a fun game;) but we only have the one and the others may have been lost. I actually had two addresses for the original Bronze (I had a back-door) and when it shut down, I actually was able to gain access for around 2 days and there were only around 10 other people there As I remember DeAn was also there. I remember double-posting words like Hello-hello to make it seem like an empty hollow echo. I should spend more time searching out old Buffy stuff as each day more and more is lost.


Birthday Happies to the lovely Sweeper


We here in Southeastern Michigan had a horrible wind storm last week (that cut the power to lots of residents) and today we may get as much as 5 inches of snow.


Maverick


White Wedding




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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Mar 13 17:22:03 2017 199.127.148.4) [Edit/Delete]
Wow, Add in the Pony and th e Limbo Rock and Twist Again, he was listened to.



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OldManFan says:
(Mon Mar 13 15:55:04 2017 100.6.23.183) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Mon Mar 13 15:55:27 2017
Trivia Girl - I was too busy twisting... Chubby Checker.

OMF



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Mar 13 15:55:02 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
Yay! buffyrat!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Mar 13 15:06:03 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Chubby Checker



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Mar 13 14:54:04 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Music
Question: Who exhorted people to do the dance move, The Fly?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Mar 13 13:06:39 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Monday, March 13th 2017 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Jenny68
Lone Star Chemist
Manx
Opus
Potters76

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Jenny68, Lone Star Chemist, Manx, Opus, Potters76!



Oh, yeah. There was this time I was pinned down by this guy that played left tackle for varsity... Well, at least he used to before he was a vampire... Anyway, he had this really, really thick neck, and all I had was a little, little Exact-O knife ... You're not loving this story.Buffy, 'The Harvest'' '''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Mar 13 13:00:33 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay buffyrat!


GoodbyeBlue Monday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Mar 13 12:04:00 2017 100.6.23.183) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Mon Mar 13 12:05:14 2017
let's hear a great big bronze cheer forbuffyrat!

yay buffyrat!


GoodbyeBlue Monday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Mar 13 11:58:19 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
abt--What a great article,
thanks!

cc Maverick


Happy Birthday SweePer!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Mar 13 11:50:15 2017 199.127.148.6|199.127.148.4) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe wolfguard I can *snerk.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Mar 13 03:52:17 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

It would have depended on the worldviews of the writers, how far they outlined
the seasons, how each story emerged in full form, and the contingencies of
life.1 What can be learned from Supernatural or for that
matter the James Bond franchise?

If BtVS had the same season run SN has had to date, then 1997-2009.


1 For instance, Seth deciding to leave the show. How do we explain
Oz's departure? How will Willow react - or might Oz's departure be something
Willow initiated? ASH's wanting to return to the UK may have been why they had
Giles depart after Buffy's death and later after concluding Buffy wouldn't grow
if she had him to depend upon.


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Mar 13 03:45:29 2017 100.4.183.212) [Edit/Delete]
I scrolled through every post in Maverick's wayback
page of the last day of the old Bronze looking for
one my posts, and there were none. I was sure I
posted at least once on that last day, but I guess
not.

I was really taken back by all the familiar names
though. And I found my old handle from those
days on Algerina's SO list. Which made me smile.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Mar 13 03:02:26 2017 100.4.183.212) [Edit/Delete]
Wow, this place is busier than its been in quite a
long time. Its nice to see.

Hiya everybody!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Mar 13 02:06:56 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I 36 couldn't image what her life would be like now.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Mar 13 01:32:07 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Buffy is 36.

WG



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Maverick says:
(Mon Mar 13 00:04:10 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
abt: I really enjoyed reading through your linked-to "Telegraph" articles on the 20th Anniversary of "Buffy." They did a wonderful job of appreciating Whedon's work with tongue firmly planted in cheek. Interesting that "Buffy" is credited as the impetus for bringing back "Dr. Who." I've never been a fan of Dr. Who, but then I remember the tacky early ones with the cardboard sets.


Good news for Emma Caulfield fans. She joins the cast of "Fear the Walking Dead." Also, Kim Dickens is in the cast, a Maverick favorite. Unfortunately I haven't seen even one episode yet, as I wait for my local library to get it in as full seasons. I love "The Walking Dead," though, just as I loved the original "Night of the Living Dead" filmed near my Pennsylvania home town. When I went to the University of Pittsburgh, I occasionally drove past the shopping mall where they filmed the original "Dawn of the Dead." (The remake is not bad but the original was really something special.) If you've never seen the original, do so. It's epic horror.


Maverick


Don't Dream It's Over




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Mar 12 23:26:34 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Buffy would be
what...almost forty by now?



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Maverick says:
(Sun Mar 12 22:43:36 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
abt: Excellent! I have now added the VIP posts collection to my Bronze Links Page (at the very bottom.) Within the other links, however, one can often get to pages like it. For instance, from the "What's What Page" one could get to "The Bronze Welcome Wagon (maintained by Jade.)". Check it out. For some strange reason I can't link to it from this Board. So much of the original "Buffy stuff" was archived, in fact, that I once thought it might be possible to completely reconstruct the original WB Bronze Buffy site including the The Mortuary, The Yearbook, The Library, The Bestiary, The Postcards, The Store, etc. It MAY be. In the spirit of Shameless Self-Promotion, I also invite you to read my fanfic (on my site) written as scripts of the show.


Maverick


I Can't Go For That




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Mar 12 20:43:25 2017 70.198.54.200) [Edit/Delete]
Abt how are you and the brexit
doing?



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abt says:
(Sun Mar 12 20:36:23 2017 84.9.78.92) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick - Telegraph article links to bronze archive



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abt says:
(Sun Mar 12 20:23:25 2017 84.9.78.92) [Edit/Delete]
Xanderella - waves



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FASTEDDIE says:
(Sun Mar 12 19:21:57 2017 73.150.25.212) [Edit/Delete]
Hey Now!!!!!!

Happy birthday SweePer!!!!

Love you!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Mar 12 18:06:16 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Monday, March 6th 2017 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


Android
BuBBles
Cordy101
Poki
Rakshasa
Serina
SweePer
Terra
Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to elreyn24Android, BuBBles, Cordy101, Poki, Rakshasa, Serina, SweePer, Terra!



It's called a blaster, Will, a word that tends to discourage experimentation. Now, if it were called the Orgasmater, I'd be the first to try your basic button press approach.
Xander, 'This Year's Girl' '''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Mar 12 15:01:59 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Good morning beta!



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Mar 12 02:26:44 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday KAM!



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white wings says:
(Sun Mar 12 02:15:50 2017 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday KAM!

Maverick - Thanks for gathering the names up.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Mar 12 00:40:22 2017 70.198.37.164) [Edit/Delete]
Happy birthday KAM!

Maverick

So many names, I had forgotten them.



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Maverick says:
(Sat Mar 11 23:10:36 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Mar 12 22:46:31 2017

Birthday Happies to: KAM


Welcome back Bronze Alumni and other visiting fireman. For the record, I've collected the names of recent Posters. Shan, wolfguard, Christopher Marlowe, lostinamerica, The Birthday Gnomette, Trivia Girl, OldManFan, YayOfTheDay, notsoShyGirl, Maverick, Agent Cooper, Dogmeat, Thumper, Cosmic Bob, nails, Stake, Mazzy, pumpkin, Kiba Rika, DeMoriel, IMMORTAL, MarsGirl, Ripley, BatCat, RTBS, Irishrose, white wings, LadyJack, Adri, sweick, Charity aka Taygeta, CharlieX, Xanderella, Mar, tiggy, clover, Imo, Margot Le Faye, AmAzOni, Tiamat, FASTEDDIE, SweePer, abt. Hello to all.


I just wanted to point out that I have been attempting to collect various old archived pages from Buffy/Bronze history and much of it is on my Webpage Maverick's Home Page. Go down to where it lists Nostalgia Links. Included in this are many pages off the WayBack Machine (so be patient--you may have to wait for a while, when it's not busy, to access certain pages) such as:
1. An example of TVJames's original Ultimate TV BuffyBoard, the forerunner of the WB Bronze and our BronzeBeta)


2. A whole week's worth of posts from May 19, 2000. This is like 7 days times 4 board turnovers per day or 28 pages of original postings. There are various ways to access these posting. You CAN select the various days of the week and go to each day and/or select "previous posts" or you can possibly go to the weekly archive that may exist but you can probably access all 28 pages from that week. Also available another week of posts (this one from May 2001.)


3. Tiggy saved some pages when the WB Bronze was shutting down and everyone had the color codes.


4. What's What of The Bronze. Many of these links won't work but some still do.


5. SweePer's Gazoo Page. I included this just to show the variations of the kinds of information still available on the Internet or in the Internet Archive. Often the original page is no longer available BUT if you have the original URL you CAN find a scan of it in the WayBack Machine archive.


Maverick


I Only Want To Be With You




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wolfguard says:
(Sat Mar 11 20:01:59 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By

OldManFan,

LOL!


Happy Birthday KAM!



WG



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Maverick says:
(Sat Mar 11 19:35:06 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sat Mar 11 19:58:31 2017
SO's to: (alphabetized so as to make our English speaking good) abt, Addict No. 1, Adina, Adreenis, Adri, AjO (#20), AKA BECKER, Alex, AleXander, Algerina (#52), Allicat/Nipsy, Alpy (#29), Ms. Alucard, Erika Amato, amystar (#57), ANG, Angela (#43), AngelLover24-7 (#40), Angelic Sweetie, Angle Man, Anne, Anya, Arctic Lurker, Asanti, Austin154, Avarice, banana (#8), Lady Bathory, Mrs. Beasley, bec (#17), Beldin, President Blade-The Vampire Hunter, BlueBoy, blueronin (#23), Bri (#46), Bruces Mom, Buffyenta, Buttercup, Chris Beck, Big Al, Big Tony, Blackheart, Boo, Bossy The Cow, Brandi the Slayer, Lt. Colonel Briarcliff, brittany, buffyrat, BUFFYtvsfan (#48), cabin7dad, Candy Kane (#36), carlycat, CarpeDi, Catriona, Ce'Lisse, chalkdusty, CharlieX, Chelle, chi, Chosen One (#50), Chrissi, Chrissy, Claddagh (#44), clarrie (#54), Cleio, Closet Buffyholic, Comma, Corvus, cosmic, Cosmic Bob, Sophia Crawford, cymarin, DaddyCatALSO, Daphmax, Dark Ivory, Deadboy, DeAn, demonica1313, Destiny, devil (#12), DGH, Dianne, Django (#56), DoBoy, Doppler99, DowntownApartments, drdan, DReddd, Drizzt, dualslayers, dudley, ebdim9th, Edward, Elly (#51), elusio, english, Evalie, EverDawn (#11), Mr. EverDawn, FASTEDDIE, A Faithful Gypsy, fenric, Figaro (#34), Foot Tapper, Forevrnite (#15), David Fury, GF, gazoo, Genevieve's Lucie, Gennifer, genrefan, Glow Boy, Godeater (#1), golden girl (#28), GothicJossMinion, Graceless Lady, Gray, greeneyes, Gregg, Griffin, Haven, Heaven, Hecate, Hollyn, horizon, HumVee, Isobel, Icelord (a spazzy #37), Pwiddy Widdle Ick, Impaler General, Intoit (#18), Irishrose, Jasmen, Jayne, Jenie TTF, Jennifer Lynn, Jocor, Jonathan H (#39), Jubilee, KAM, Kansas (#49), Kar (#30), Karin, kayti, Kendra, Kenickie, Keywe, Kiera, kim!, Kramer, KrazyKat, Kristen, kronos, krypticon, kugelmass, *LB* (#3), Labrynth, Laurence, Luv Lux, Manx, Margot le Faye, Leather Jacket, Liberty, Liche, Lil'Tree (#19), lilmissmagik, Lisa, lisa1, littlexander, Little Willow, lostinamerica, Lovely Poet, Lurking Little Feet, Mabb, MaJoR WillowFan, Christopher Marlowe, Masquerade, Malista, Marissa, Matt the Bruins Fan, Artie McDonald, Todd McIntosh, Meg6 (#32), mélanie, Menkhare, Menomegirl, *~Kathryn Merteuil~*, Micaela, Miguel, Mircalla (#6), Missi (#16), Missy, Morella, mudpuppy, Myslayre, nails, Natalie, neonate, nephy, newt, Night Owl, Nirvana 1, Noodles, notsoShyGirl, Nouveau, numba1buffyfan, NuPhalanx (#25), nya, Nyte-eyes, Octoquad, Ojagwers, old dog (#5), Old One, Olivia, 1bufffyfan (#22), orangeade, paksenarrion (#55), Pam (#33), Patches J, PDR, pestilent god, Phil PhuD, Pixie, Pnthr44, Poetry Angel (#9), Mrs. Pointy, Polgara, Pooka, princess daria, Princess of Darkness, Jeff Pruitt, ? (#13), Qui-gon Jenn, Jaan Quidam, RD, RJ (#14), Rebecca Lynn (#2), redhead, redruM, Reyna, ripley, ROANNA (#10), Robin TSH, RooCH, RyanH, Sachiel (#38). Safarigirl, StGermain (#21), Samantha (#45), Sanguineus, Sarah's carl, Sara the Brown (#31), SarahNicole (#7), Sarah UK, sassy, The Sci-Fi Bard, Scourge of Europe, Selenay (#53), seniorslayer, Sephiroth, Shade of Bronze, ShadowDancer, Shadowslayer (#27), Shalazar, Shelly, SherBear, shtein, Skittery, Slave2Faith (#47), slay_me (#26), slayerdaddy, SlayerNextDoor, sleepy head, SoAnya, Southern Girl (#24), Sparrow, Spiky, Spike, Spike_14, SpikeNip, spikes_luv, SpookyMagoo (#41), Stake, Sultress, SweePer, sweick, Tallulahdahling (#42), Tana, TheaterGirl, Thelma and Louise, Thirsty (#35), Thoin, 3 Standard Deviations from the Norm, thy Slayer, tiggy, TMorel, Kestra Troi, umbris, VT, VaBuffyFan, valMichael, Vampire the Buffy Slayer, vampchica, VampSlayer, Vlad the Impaler, WanderLost (#4), weeping willow, Wendy, werewolf123, Whisper2AScream, white wings, Mr. Whyt, Witchy Woman, wolfguard, Xander's Girl, X-Lander, Zeeshan M, Zorander, and all others who will now show up making me feel guilty for overlooking them.

(Mystical numeric codes: the numbers next to the above Poster's names indicate exclusive membership in the Order of Maverick's Fanfic Recommenders, a valiant band of Posters who have girded their loins and will recommend my fanfic even under the most harrowing of circumstances, such as the actual threat of being viciously tickled by someone of the opposite sex. God bless these brave young Posters)

Maverick

My fanfic can be found here: Maverick's Home Page.


Proud HonoUrary Member of Buffy, Eh? There goes THEIR club, eh? Snowshoe Size #10-1/2
Keelhauled on the Shameless Hussy Boat
Slavic (or perhaps Czech) devotee of SMG
Steve (okay, Urkel, not Buscemi) for Bronze Bouncer
Keeper of all change I find behind the cushions of the Bronze sofa
Official Bronze Notary
Self-confessed Cat Kisser
Spaz Poster # 14 / Certified SpazSpeak Interpreter
Stocker-upper on Cheese ever since Amy Became a Rat
Interested in Becoming Da'an's Companion
My motto: You're only young once, but, cheer up, you can be immature forever.


Added Four Midi's


Buffy Theme


Close Your Eyes (sequenced by Noella Choi)


Chris Beck's theme from "Sacrifice" and "The Gift" (sequenced by Noella Choi)


Angel Theme (sequenced by Noella Choi)




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Mar 11 18:29:53 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
OldManFan KAM has such a sunny disposition doesn't he? *g*



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OldManFan says:
(Sat Mar 11 18:11:50 2017 100.6.23.183) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sat Mar 11 18:12:39 2017
Happy Birthday KAM!!!

One outcome of all the 20th anniversary posting on Facebook was the
photographic evidence that KAM can smile.

*g

OMF



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Mar 11 16:35:59 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Saturday, March 11th 2017 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


hunter
Janna
Jen15
KAM
Mark Metcalf as the Master vampire
Megan
MojoDiva
Old Married Guy

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to hunter, Janna, Jen15, KAM, Mark Metcalf, Megan, MojoDiva, OldMarriedGuy!



I'm sorry. You were going to ask me to choose, right? Did you want to finish?
Zoe, 'War Stories'


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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DeMoriel says:
(Sat Mar 11 12:20:18 2017 208.84.225.10) [Edit/Delete]
Tiamat: Ack! I'm on a PC and we have Mac-esque formatting happening.
NEVERRRRRRRR!

Oh OK. If I pull the formatting box out, it won't do that.

DeM



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Tiamat says:
(Sat Mar 11 11:52:34 2017 24.17.70.162) [Edit/Delete]
DeMorievil: It was nice
to see Typhoid Mary on his site
... but then that got wiped ... I
haven't heard of the island
sinking & taking him with it ...


Maybe people have forgotten that
this place exists? Or that Buffy
is 20+ yrs old now ... *le sigh*



SO: Deader than Deadonia



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DeMoriel says:
(Sat Mar 11 11:32:13 2017 208.84.225.10) [Edit/Delete]
Tiamat: It was nice to see
Ty resurface on Twitter for a
bit, at least.

Olly Olly Oxen free...

I hope more people stop in this
weekend? Seeing a lot of
reminiscing on FB.

DeM



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sweick says:
(Sat Mar 11 09:53:54 2017 174.104.91.179) [Edit/Delete]
At it's base, BtVS was a teen soap with fangs. All the romance triangles, the Buffy/Angel4Eva junk. And if that was all that it had been, we wouldn't be celebrating a 20th.

It wasn't the first show that did story arcs, character arcs, subtext, metaphors, etc., but it used them in almost a totally new way for TV. It really has been an influential show on how series have been made since. In a way, it almost foresaw binge watching with how the episodes began to intertwine with the arcs.

Some of the analysis on this and prior boards, as well as the wild world of the USENET newsgroups were brilliant. Hell, you had serious books written about the subject of BtVS.

Of course it, like this board, have become dated. And probably best not to look in a mirror to see what 20 has done to you. But we should take moments to look back and see what came before and celebrate it.

So again, Happy 20th BtVS.

And here's to you Gazoo, wherever you are.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Mar 11 09:02:24 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]


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