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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Dec 13 12:14:02 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for shade of bronze!

yay shade of bronze!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

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does willow celebrate hanakkah in a traditional way?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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Maverick says:
(Wed Dec 13 04:49:47 2017 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: You mean, the Annoying One?


DaddyCatALSO: To have such a city that is the Capital of two separate and vastly different states? As a single city government? No, it doesn't sound possible nor desirable. The agendas of the two states call for the city to rule in opposing ways. Much better to have a partitioned City with separate local governments that represent each of the two contradictory attitudes.


Wolfguard: My requirement for a "theory" is that it makes sense and stands up to questions that assault that sense. First of all the pedigree of "Global Warming" is flawed. It started as "Global Cooling" back in 1975, and I quote:

"The central fact is that, after three quarters of a century of extraordinarily mild conditions, the Earth seems to be cooling down. Meteorologists disagree about the cause and extent of the cooling trend, as well as over its specific impact on local weather conditions. But they are almost unanimous in the view that the trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest of the century. Newsweek: April 28, 1975." Nowadays, it's Global Warming. The problem is that these are actually not scientific theories but are political attempts at leftist power grabs. Scientific "theories" INVITE skeptical opinions and can't wait to specifically refute them, but that's not what is happening. Global Warming skeptics are attacked ad hominem. Who can argue that cycles of the sun, volcanoes, El Nino and La Nina, sun spots, water vapor as a greenhouse gas, plate tectonics, population trends, the Heat Island Effect, etc., do not influence Earth's Climate? Yet, anyone who questions Global Warming (CO2 caused) gets personally attacked. The Global Warming industry provides full employment for many academics who put out "studies" blaming any exotic weather on Global Warming. Now, paying homage to authority figures that advocate for Global Warming is a leftist obsession. And yet Approximately 50 former NASA employees, the people who put men on the moon, pragmatic realists, think Global Warming is a lot of bunk.


Obama's War on CO2 - Cost vs Benefits


Lying About Climate Change to Advance the Green Agenda is Good Says Peer-Reviewed Paper


Wolfguard: You said "scientists" study the Heat Island Effect. If they do anything but debunk it, they've probably lost their Federal Grants (under Obama.) I've seen people claim they've adjusted raw temperature data numbers to account for this, BUT no one can obtain their methodology for it. I saw your criticism of Monte Heib's paper, and I need you to get really specific about the three levels of inadequacies you see in it. Yes, he's skeptical about H2, the greenhouse gas, being included in Climate studies. I've, personally, never seen it and I occasionally read that kind of stuff.


Maverick


Chipmunks Roasting on an Open Fire




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Comma says:
(Wed Dec 13 02:36:53 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Dec 13 02:39:29 2017
I have really tried to forget what day this is the anniversary of. I have tried to write my memories of that time period, I just can't. One day maybe.

Several times I have gotten as far as when I was told what had happen. I expected to lose soldiers in a combat zone. I never expected that 248 soldiers, on a peace keeping detail, would lose their lives when the plane went down in Gander. I may get it written down someday. Maybe not.

What adds to that time of year, in 1985, my parents were married 50 years. Dad, who worked with Alabama Power in 1935, only had one day off during the year. That day was Christmas Day. Mom and Dad are now both gone.

I will said, that if anyone had told me, on 11 Dec 1985, as I headed out to the field, that I would be in Gander on 14 December, I would have had a good laugh. I lived in family quarters on Fort Campbell. When I left home, on 11 December, the quarters on the corner had yellow ribbons up and signs. The signs all read, 'Welcome Home Daddy'. Daddy never came home. The signs, with the yellow ribbon rolled in a big ball, was in the trash on the afternoon of 12 December. Without knowing it was him, in the next few days I may have placed an American flag, on his metal coffin, before he left Canada to return to American soil. If I remember correctly, as late as March 1986, there was serious talk about not being able to id everyone.

Charles



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Dec 13 02:06:38 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Anyone hereabouts?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Dec 12 23:15:06 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who killed the Anointed One?
Answer: Spike!

Trivia Master: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Oh So Close: OldManFan
Trivia Getting Warm: Agent Cooper!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Dec 12 20:55:42 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper LOL! Fury doesn't hold a candel to Whedon as far as death!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Dec 12 19:04:46 2017 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: The writers, of course! Probably that Fury guy. He kills off everybody.

:-)



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OldManFan says:
(Tue Dec 12 18:53:55 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - the sun.

OMF



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Dec 12 17:39:58 2017 206.124.19.186) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Spike



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Dec 12 16:37:51 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue Dec 12 16:39:14 2017
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who killed the Anointed One?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Dec 12 15:31:41 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick "You mean like partitioned Berlin, which was the capital of East Germany and, earlier, just generic Germany, while Bonn, for a while, was the capital of West Germany" No, I simply mean having two national capitals being located in a single border city, run by a city council elected by all people who meet local residence requirements, regardless of citizenship, which would only be an issue for national elections.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Dec 12 15:19:42 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Tuesday, December 12th 2017 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Alicat
Ben
Chris
Movie Chick
Politesse
Theda Bara

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Alicat, Ben, Chris, Movie Chick, Politesse, Theda Bara!



Why couldn't Giles have shackles like any self-respecting bachelor? Xander, 'Living Conditions'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Dec 12 14:49:50 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay demoriel!

deadguy qod


I think it would happen in Cleveland! Cleveland Rocks!

Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Dec 12 12:35:42 2017 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Yay! DeMoriel!



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Dec 12 12:30:10 2017 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick--No, everyone says
it like that--they would look at
you funny if you said it "poor
boy."

Now, how would you pronounce the
following street name in New
Orleans: Tchoupitoulas :)



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Dec 12 12:18:35 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for demoriel

yay demoriel!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale reunion committee - class of 1999

assuming the scoobies reunite for holidays, where does it happen?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Dec 12 04:52:49 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica, Christopher Marlowe, & Maverick -

Thanks for the "yay's"


Lostinamerica & Safarigirl,

Thanks for the thoughts on the topic.



Maverick,

The flaws in Monte Heib's essay:

(1) He does not consider the life cycles of the various greenhouse gases.

(2) He does not consider marginal analysis

(3) He seems unaware of how trace amounts can effect biogeophysical
systems.


He seems to believe climate scientists are out to hookwink people. For
instance, he writes "DOE chose to NOT show water vapor as a greenhouse
gas!
" (underlining added)

Cause everyone involved in the relative sciences knows it. Hieb
acknowledges this, but appears to believe it an evasive answer. Why? I
believe because he comes from a worldview that distrusts authorities.

Run out of time on revisiting your pee-in-the-pool. However, I can make
quick reply on 'paving' and 'heat islands'. Climate scientists have long
been aware of these factors. They study them. They take them into account
in their models. So we return to who is one going to trust? Not those damn
scientists - unless he's one of those who agrees with your belief.

On rudeness: When you emailed me on posting back and forth again, you had a
condition: ~ I read your post addressed to me. I also had a condition:
civil behavior. I believe you have strayed, so either I can return to not
reading your posts or I can be rude in return, tit-for-tat. Since it's
possible I see 'rudeness" where it's not intended, I can always send you
examples of what I see as rude - if you want.


Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Dec 12 02:40:09 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick,

I tried to read through your Sunday post to me which includes your
rendering of how you saw parts of our 'conversation'. I'm not going to try
to untangle it, and it is tangled. An example ...

START

WG: To that you replied ...

"... For instance the heat from the sun is transitory and is held in by
the greenhouse gases or not, so each holding molecule IS the heat source...

*MAV: That's what I said.

END

Of course it's what you said, because I cut-and-pasted it from one of your
earlier posts. It's why I put quotations marks around it. It's probably
also in italics to set it part from my own words.


In my next post I will answer your question, ~What's wrong with this~
(Monte article) and will revisit your flawed analogy on pee-in-the-pool. If
there's time, I'll comment on your observations about paved surfaces and
heat islands.


WG



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Maverick says:
(Tue Dec 12 01:59:13 2017 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe: It doesn't work like that UNTIL someone who's been sitting around waiting to be offended by some white guy hears it. It's that new game of being a victim and claiming victimhood and then, once you are certified a "protected class," YOU get to be the Bully. BTW, did you look at the "fake faint" video I included with the lostinamerica post? I think you would find it particularly educational.


Maverick


Trans-Siberian Orchestra's Christmas Canon




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Dec 12 01:37:45 2017 174.217.12.194) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick

I don't think cultural
appropriation works like that.



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Maverick says:
(Tue Dec 12 00:47:03 2017 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
lostinamerica: If I say that, I will be accused of cultural appropriation (or some other such politically correct nonsense.) BTW, have you seen This? This is the "fake faint" thing in the Rose Garden


Maverick


Carol Of The Bells




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Dec 12 00:04:27 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick Yeah, there are lots of alternatives these days: soy milk, almond milk, as well as lactose-free milk!



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Dec 11 22:45:18 2017 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick--Don't go down to
New Orleans and ask for a poor boy,
it's po'boy!



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Maverick says:
(Mon Dec 11 22:41:58 2017 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe: I often go to "Heartland America" which is an online distressed merchandise (sometimes a specific color or style does not sell well, so a company agrees to sell its remaining inventory [of that color or style] to a specialty retailer like Heartland) sales location and check the prices on things like New Balance shoes. They often originally went for $50+ retail but they will be priced at maybe $35 at Heartland. Here's a link. I've been dealing with them 20+ years and have never been disappointed. I have 3 pair of shoes right now that I wear and I got them there. Needless to say, their catalog is addicting.


Maverick


Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas




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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Dec 11 22:12:32 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Music
QuestioN: The Line "Poorboy twangs the rhythm out on his kalamazoo"" is part of what CCR song?
Answer: Down on the corner

Trivia Master: DaddyCatALSO!

Trivia Not quite: Maverick. Thanks or the shoe recommendation!



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Maverick says:
(Mon Dec 11 18:16:58 2017 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: A poorboy is a New Orleans sandwich and a kazoo could be short for a Kalamazoo, so I've never followed CCR THAT closely, although I kinda like the music (although I've never been to Spain.) Not a clue.


Belated Birthday Happies on Dec. 8th to Candy Kane


Candy Kane is Maverick Fanfic Recommender #36, in Good Standing


Birthday Happies to Sachiel


Sachiel is Maverick Fanfic Recommender #38, in Good Standing


DaddyCatALSO: You mean like partitioned Berlin, which was the capital of East Germany and, earlier, just generic Germany, while Bonn, for a while, was the capital of West Germany?


Wolfguard: Further to mine regarding Heat Island effects derived from the frantic construction of paved airports (mostly after WWII). A striking difference in temperatures from the airport weather stations to the surrounding urban areas, occurred in the winter months when a blanket of cooling snow fell on both areas and, immediately, the paved airports were scraped off so that the heating of the paved surface could continue unabated while the surrounding countryside cooled considerably.


Yay, Wolfguard, Yay!


Christopher Marlowe: Sore feet? I've found New Balance athletic shoes to be the most comfortable, although Rockports were very comfortable male dress shoes. As far as lactose intollerence, perhaps you should learn to live with diversity (or try almondmilk--I frequently buy a 50-50 mixture of Almond and Coconut Milks.)


Maverick


O Come, O Come, Immanual




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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Dec 11 15:25:56 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl "Down on the Corner," and it's a type of guitar.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Dec 11 15:20:08 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Music
QuestioN: The Line "Poorboy twangs the rhythm out on his kalamazoo"" is part of what CCR song?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Dec 11 14:52:00 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Monday, December 11th 2017 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


Kestra Troi
Sachiel

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Kestra Troi, Sachiel!



Jeez, don't get all Movie of the Week. I was just too cheap to buy you a real present.
Dawn, 'Blood Ties''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Dec 11 14:40:59 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay wolfguard!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Dec 11 12:48:56 2017 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Yay! wolfguard!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Dec 11 12:07:32 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for wolfguard!

yay wolfguard!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Dec 11 03:18:37 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Let it Gooooooooooooooo!!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Dec 11 01:36:42 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
I think it might take the whole night for my feet to recover.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Dec 10 21:28:48 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
It was toys for tots distribution day! Boy are my feet sore!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Dec 10 14:16:29 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Sunday, December 10th 2017 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


sammie
surleigh
vetrena
Vodka'n'Orange

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to sammie, surleigh, vetrena, Vodka'n'Orange!



said I'm sorry. I've made mistakes, but fear was never one of them.Lilah, 'Deep Down'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Dec 10 13:49:01 2017 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Safarigirl--You have two
weeks until Xmas, you're good :)


wolfguard--Women should not
date men they could have given birth
to. Men should not date women they
could have fathered. See, simple,
no need for math at all :)



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Safarigirl says:
(Sun Dec 10 06:23:07 2017 199.167.117.45) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Dec 10 06:36:31 2017
Salut mes amis! Just trying this
out on my Android. I'm not sure why
I'm surprised that it's working the
same as on my laptop, but I guess I
was expecting display issues or
something like that.

Anyhoo, hi all. I hope you're well
into your holiday prep by now, not
last-minute panicking like me.


Wolfguard Regarding your topic on age spread in relationships:
I do think there's a limit to it. Like, 90 year olds shouldn't be
married to 20-ish year olds. Basically if the spread is greater than
one generation, it's too much.



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Maverick says:
(Sun Dec 10 05:05:47 2017 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Dec 10 20:11:33 2017
Wolfguard: Okay, I may be socially naive or rude, BUT what are YOU saying that I'm not saying. You keep saying that the sun is the source of heat. I'll stipulate that (as I've said, the sun is the original source of all energy and heat is a state of energy.) But when you lie in your bed, you do not have a little chunk of the sun in there under your covers (you seem to be claiming this) keeping you warm. Heat travels (cold does not;) we agree on this. The energy of the sun is stored in plants and we eat the plants and our bodies then burn this food and heat our bodies and, depending on the thread count of our sheets, our covers hold in our heat BUT if we get too hot, our bodies sweat (water vapor out of our pores) and if this sweat evaporates this process cools our skin. This makes sense to me. Let's look at your analysis of what I've previously said.
WG: "I did not ask you a question. I showed your 'pee in the pool' analogy was flawed."
*MAV: I must have missed that. The analogy involved relative concentrations. Both were dwarfed by the total quantities.*
WG: "In doing so, I noted the source of the heat in the pool is the pee,
while the source of the heat trapped by the greenhouse effect is the Sun."
*MAV: Well, here you're in trouble, as you're not consistent with the nature of your "sources." The source of the heat in the pool is YOU and the pee is merely a transferred source, if the source of the heat trapped by the greenhouse effect is the Sun. On the other hand, if the source is the pee, the source of the greenhouse effect is the molecules of greenhouse gases.
WG: To that you replied ...

"... For instance the heat from the sun is transitory and is held in by
the greenhouse gases or not, so each holding molecule IS the heat source...
*MAV: That's what I said.

WG: 'I replied, "By this logic, one's bed-covers are the heat source that warms
one in bed."
*MAV: Huh? Naaaw! Not even close.
WG: That's not my reasoning,
*MAV: No, That IS your reasoning. The heat source is one's body and secondarily it's water vapor that's been heated by one's body.
WG: "that's a shorter restatement of your reasoning
above. You do not understand the material well. You appear to be parroting
back what you've read through the filters of your beliefs.
*MAV: Who's socially inept and rude?
WG: "The "Deniers"1 keep shifting their argument:

- Global warming is not happening."
*MAV When you say the magic words "Global Warming," you're ONLY talking CO2.

WG: "But if it is

- It's not due to CO2."
*MAV: The earth is certainly heating AND cooling.
WG: "But if it is
*MAV: Heating and cooling
WG: "- The CO2 is coming from natural sources

But if it is coming from human activity, that activity is a minor source
compared to the natural sources."

They are not examining the evidence with an unbiased mind. They are culling
the evidence to favor the desired conclusion. Most unscientific."
*MAV: The "evidence" is frequently doctored data.

1 Shorthand for those folks who do not believe global warming is
happening or if global warming is happening it is not caused by human
activity.
*MAV: Once again, Global Warming arguments intrinsically involves CO2. If you're talking warming and cooling and other effects, some of this definitely IS caused by human activity.


Wolfguard: Let me give you an example of heating caused by human activity (having nothing specifically to do with CO2). The answer to the question: On a hot summer day, is it hotter in the middle of a grassy field or standing in the middle of a paved parking lot? It may be 10 degrees hotter in the parking lot. In 1903 two brothers in Kitty Hawk, N.C. flew a heavier than air vehicle. Early airports up through the 1930's were essentially flat grassy fields. But, once the aviation industry started building paved airports they created essentially large Heat Islands close to most cities, major and minor. Likewise, Eisenhower created the Federal Highway system in the 1950's, which were large paved areas surrounding major cities. Lots of grassy ground taken out of service and replaced by hot paved areas. And a funny thing is that frequently the weather stations, where temperature data is recorded, is located AT the airports (heat islands.) Beyond the HI effect, some other warming effects are volcanoes, plate tectonics, cycles of the sun, population increases, sunspots, etc. There is, for instance, a permanent liquid lava pool in Antarctica, under Lake Erebus. I find that AGW often has political associations, often a means of trying to redistribute income. Now, Monte Heib may not be a known quantity, but the question should not be whether he has some kind of Authority (like Al Gore) but whether he makes common sense or not. I think he does. His analysis is merely the accumulation of the work of many others.


Wolfguard, DaddyCatALSO: I have found a source for a reference to reincarnation in the Bible. Interested?


Wolfguard: How about the video of the Rose Garden "fake faint"? Have you looked at it yet?


Maverick


I Wonder As I Wander




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Dec 10 04:56:54 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Bingo wasnt' as bad as thought...not something I wanna do on a regular basis though.



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Comma says:
(Sun Dec 10 02:52:26 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard: Auto correct sucks!

condone



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Dec 10 01:13:57 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Ugh....believe it or not, I'm heading to Bingo. Not so much that I like it, but I got invited by my friends and have no legitimate reason not to go.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Dec 9 21:39:43 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Busy morning for me...rest now...



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Dec 9 18:56:44 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Comma,

Yours, "...While I do not condom, in anyway, his treatment of women,..."

Did you mean, "condone"? *g*



TOPIC

What's the range of opinion on the appropriate limits on the difference in ages between two people dating?

I've heard one 'rule of thumb'.

- Divide the older age by two and add seven.1

Example: A 40 year old person should not date another person younger than (40/2)+ 7 = 27

I've never seen the reasoning why the result is appropriate, but the rule provides a focus.


1 In math (OA/2) + 7, where 'OA' is short for "Older Age". A more fancy way of noting it would be Ao

(Ao/2) + 7



WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Dec 9 17:01:20 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Saturday, December 9th 2017 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Kenya
liz
Mayday

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Kenya, liz, Mayday!



It's my estimation that... every man ever got a statue made of him, was one kind of sumbitch or another. Mal, 'Jaynestown''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Dec 9 15:53:13 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Good morning beta!



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Comma says:
(Sat Dec 9 09:08:56 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Dec 10 02:53:15 2017
Comments on Roy Moore:

1. The legal age, in Alabama, is 16. I am tried of the media talking about 'little girls'. While I do not condone, in anyway, his treatment of women, only two of the ones accusing him were underage.
2. No member of Congress wants him in the Senate.
3. If he is elected, if I remember right, the Senate can stop him from being sworn in.
4. If he is sworn in, the Senate will open an ethics inquiry and throw him out.
5. The Republican Alabama Governor will appoint another Republican to fill the Senate seat.
6. The Democrats will remain Grumpy Cats and the Republicans will be as happy as they can ever get.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Dec 9 04:16:40 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Back from back to back meetings!

wolfguard Thank you! I will need to read that.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Dec 9 00:04:19 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

" Although it is hard to say whether Trump's plan for a wall along the
U.S.Mexican border is viable, Israel's border-security projects were both
popular and successful at achieving most of their stated aims.


"Israel's Walls: Do they Work?"

by Amos Harel in Foreign Affairs February 17, 2017



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 8 23:34:39 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Yeah? How effective is it?



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 8 22:52:58 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Israel has the wall thing down pat.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 8 22:50:06 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Maybe Trump can promise to build another wall....



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 8 21:37:30 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO,

You're not an Israeli or a Palestinian. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 8 21:27:48 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper Money!!! Or a personal assistant.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Dec 8 20:20:30 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper A couple million. Or, the various Buffy books I lost to the storage place or the bedbugs, along with some old favorite fictional pieces by a couple of my favorite authors



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Dec 8 19:11:16 2017 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Santa is watching guys!

So let's answer a question. If you could have one very special present, and only one, what would it be? And it has to be something just for you. Not something everybody wants, so no "world peace" answers.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Dec 8 17:59:41 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Christopher Marlowe Maverick I see no actuall reason why two neighboring countries can't have their capitals in the same city.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Dec 8 15:18:48 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Friday, December 8th 2017 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Candy Kane
Jonathon_H
newtlet
Spikmeister
slyr314

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Candy Kane, Jonathon_H, newtlet, Spikmeister, slyr314!



It's a real burden being right so often. Mal, 'Bushwhacked'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 8 14:39:26 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay angela!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Dec 8 14:11:08 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for angela!

yay angela!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 8 07:21:58 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Dec 8 07:26:53 2017
Christopher Marlowe,

I do not use Facebook. I believe to access a person's Facebook, as opposed to an organization's FB page, that one has to be accepted in some way? If true, then Facebook pages tie people together who have accepted each other. I'm going to assume that people who accept each other probably share similar views of the world. People who share views would also likely share links to sites that cater to the group's views, likes, dislikes, etc. So ... using Facebook means one is probably seeing the world through a filter.



I can think of only three reasons why the US should have its embassy in Jerusalem...

1) Consistency: Embassies are almost always sited in a country's capitol.

2) Cause the host country, Israel, wants the embassy in Jerusalem.1

3) Palestinians might be shocked into rethinking their negotiating strategy. OTOH, their rethinking doesn't have to move in ways that further US interests.


Against this, the following ...

1) It will anger some folks. People who are angry tend not to behave in ways that help whoever it was who angered them.

2) It might may some folks desperate. Desperate people take risky actions which might not play to US interests.

3) It doesn't help US relations with other Arab countries.

4) It lessens the trust some folks have in the US being an honest broker between Israel and the Palestinians.


I suspect the decision to move the US embassy to Jerusalem was done to please some of President Trump's domestic constituents.



1 I assume this is true or at least the government of Israel wants it.



ETA Maverick

Yours, ... I don't understand why this is so puzzling to you....

You are either socially naive or simply rude. Let me return the latter. You need to sit down with a science teacher who has the time to sort through your science 'knowledge-base' and your ability to use it. Perhaps more tomorrow. Perhaps not.

WG



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Maverick says:
(Fri Dec 8 07:19:19 2017 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: The source of all energy (heat is a state of energy) is essentially the Sun. (Elsewise it could come from some radioactive elements, although that energy is minimal.) As I think about this, I do not want to ignore obvious OTHER FACTORS which contribute to climate. Also, although the Sun is the usual original source of heat, this heat gets handed off to other players and they can become the secondary sources of heat. I don't understand why this is so puzzling to you; it's a very mechanical process. To me the concept of a greenhouse gas is a molecule that can itself be heated (by kinetic energy) so that the heat is transferred to it, and it can then hold this heat for a while and function as a secondary source of heat (rather than in molecules of nitrogen, for instance, where the heat is not held.) Obviously, however, CO2 is only a trace gas and is not the PRIMARY driver of the process that helps moderate earth's temperature. H2O IS, simply because water vapor can be present in far, far, far greater quantities. What is confusing to many is that CO2 solely does not have to be the be-all-and-end-all of a temporary Warming trend. BUT if we DO end up discussing "Global Warming" then we ARE, effectively, by default in this politically-charged environment, discussing how CO2 is affecting our climate. To further confuse the issue, some of the Climate Alarmists HAVE begun calling their Sky-is-Falling scenario "Climate Change" but they still revolve their arguments around CO2, and their solutions involve tinkering with industrial production (and the U.S.'s success always seems to be the target.) Lessening CO2 is always the intended solution. But, CO2 is not a toxic poison; plants inhale CO2 and grow and WE eat the plants, and we, ourselves, exhale CO2. [This reminds me of the discussion I had with Christopher Marlowe the other night about the statistic that in the UK the new greatest source of early death is dementia (which includes Alzheimer's) which has now dethroned heart diseases as the greatest cause of early death. I pointed out that by prescribing statins the doctors are maybe solving cholesterol-related heart blockages, but they may also be starving the brain of ITS need for cholesterol to function properly.] Anyway, I DID still want to show that the earth IS heating up somewhat, or at least it should be, although this barely seems to fully be reflected in Global Warming temperature data. Perhaps Tomorrow I will explain this.


Maverick


All I Want For Christmas Is You




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 8 05:36:49 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Dec 8 05:39:35 2017
wolfguard I'm getting into the habit of digging into articles that are
linked on facebook. Usually it says something fairly inflammatory. Like with
this situation about the tax bill. I see a lot of dire warnings about how
this will affect middle-class and poorer individuals and I try to get more
balanced articles.

Or that business with Israel/Jerusalem. A number of articles/opinions I've
read pretty much see this as of no benefit to the U.S. at the best and sinking
the peace process for good at the worst.

The one lone article that is super enthusiastic, oddly enough, was on Fox (i
think). And I'm not seeing Jared Kushner pulling a peace rabbit out of a hat
anytime soon.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 8 03:42:50 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

It can be tiresome. I have read the webpage, "Global Warming: a closer
look at the numbers." The body of it is organized in five parts, numbered
1-5. Part 4 is titled ~ Comparing Natural vs Man-Made Concentrations of
Greenhouse Gases.~ It shows five pie charts, one for each of five
greenhouse gases examined. Where does the data come from? The writer says
it's constructed from Table 1. Scroll back to part 1 and look at the table
for its source: US Department of Energy. Go back down to the footnotes,
click on the link and skim the report for its source on man-made
contributions of CO2. Don't see it. Return to Table 1. There's a footnote
in the column for source on man-made contributions of CO2. Go back down to
the footnotes to the appropriate one. There's a link with a scientific
worded article. Click on it and it takes me to www.CO2web.info created by
Tom V. Segalstad (Googled his name: Norwegian geologist and associate
professor of ~resource and environmental science).

His site is smorgasbord of graphics and bold, large font on the topic in
question. But I can't easily find the data set in question amidst it all.

Anyway, who created the "Global Warming: a closer look at the numbers"? I
didn't see a name(s) at the beginning. But, at the very end in small font
is the name 'Monte Hieb' and under it the note, last revised March 2, 2007
(over ten years ago). You can click on this name and get an email address
pop-up. When I googled the name the other night, I found it associated with
someone living in West Virginia and another search result, "mining
engineer".

*Shrug*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 8 02:13:27 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Arguing with Maverick is something of a fools errand!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 8 01:23:56 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick,

I did not ask you a question. I showed your 'pee in the pool' analogy was
flawed. In doing so, I noted the source of the heat in the pool is the pee,
while the source of the heat trapped by the greenhouse effect is the Sun.

To that you replied ...

"... For instance the heat from the sun is transitory and is held in by
the greenhouse gases or not, so each holding molecule IS the heat source...


I replied, "By this logic, one's bed-covers are the heat source that warms
one in bed."

That's not my reasoning, that's a shorter restatement of your reasoning
above. You do not understand the material well. You appear to be parroting
back what you've read through the filters of your beliefs.

The "Deniers"1 keep shifting their argument:

- Global warming is not happening.

But if it is

- It's not due to CO2.

But if it is

- The CO2 is coming from natural sources

But if it is coming from human activity, that activity is a minor source
compared to the natural sources.

They are not examining the evidence with an unbiased mind. They are culling
the evidence to favor the desired conclusion. Most unscientific.


1 Shorthand for those folks who do not believe global warming is
happening or if global warming is happening it is not caused by human
activity.



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 8 00:52:33 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

Littlefinger was a sociopath, but his observation on chaos was spot on.

Spoiler on The Game of Thrones

((The "War of the Five Kingdoms" started because lords questioned
the legitimacy of Robert's son Joffrey. The question arose, because Eddard
Stark discovered evidence Jamie was the father and made that known to
Cersei. As I recall this lead Cersei to order an accident be fashioned that
would lead to Robert's death (the spiked wine before the boar hunt).

Now, Stark would not have been in a the position to have learned the above
had Littlefinger not arranged for the murder of Jon Arryn, the previous
Hand. If Robert had chosen a different person to be the new Hand - say
Tywin Lannister - then Arryn's musings on parentage would have been tossed
in the fireplace.
))

Can one person start a war?



WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Dec 7 23:22:51 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
Question: Who was the first host of Jeopardy!
Answer: Merv Griffin

Trivia Masters: Christopher Marlowe (*g*), Maverick



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Dec 7 21:24:40 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: I bet it was Merv Griffin!



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Maverick says:
(Thu Dec 7 18:39:24 2017 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: How about Merv Griffin? Didn't he create the show?


Maverick


Merry Christmas, Darling




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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Dec 7 18:24:18 2017 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Don Pardo? Burt Convy?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Dec 7 18:14:41 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl Art Fleming, I think.


RIP Christine Keeler



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Dec 7 16:05:09 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
Question: Who was the first host of Jeopardy!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Dec 7 15:28:03 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, December 7th 2017 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


Ana
Angelique's Faith
Erika Amato
KANE
moppety
Witchy Woman
Xander 13

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Ana, Angelique's Faith, Erika Amato
KANE, moppety, Witchy Woman, Xander 13!



Mal: And I never back down from a fight. Inara: Yes, you do! You do all the time!'Shindig'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Dec 7 14:42:48 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay fantasma!


Happy CD Thursday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Dec 7 14:12:17 2017 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Baelish Littlefinger is the poster child for everything that's wrong with Westeros. And, IMHO, a cautionary parable for alot of what's wrong in our real world today.

MAJOR GAME OF THRONES SPOILER: This guy is personally responsible for starting what amounts to a world war which gets thousands of people killed just to further his own personal ambition. And he ends up with his throat cut for it. Quite deservedly, too!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Dec 7 12:03:33 2017 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Belated Yay! Dogmeat!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Dec 7 11:58:01 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for fantasma!

yay fantasma!


Happy CD Thursday!



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Maverick says:
(Thu Dec 7 09:28:57 2017 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Dec 7 09:32:07 2017
Wolfguard: I'm watching Season Seven of "Walking Dead." Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Negan is funny. Finally finished. {The Rose Garden video I sent was dated Thursday 11/30 and the link was identified by the words Lady Patriot. Here's another link to the video labeled "fake faint"} On how a greenhouse gas holds heat in the atmosphere, a greenhouse gas molecule (could be CO2, could be Methane, etc.) gets heated and so the heat is temporarily held by the molecule. Same with water vapor (a greenhouse gas) molecules. On a hot day in the summer often the rain is actually warm, even hot. In your bed heat source question, YOU are the source and are heating water vapor coming off your skin through the pores and the water vapor molecules become the secondary (transferred) heat source. If this water vapor is allowed to evaporate (escape) into the air, the skin is cooled (why we sweat); however a cover can somewhat prevent this escape. Likewise, on a cold night in winter, cloud (condensed water vapor) cover can hold in radiated heat from the ground and it doesn't get so cold; but the lack of cloud cover (the heated molecules of water vapor) will allow the heat of the day to readily dissipate into space and it will be much colder at night. I always use the example from my childhood where they used to say, "It's too cold to snow," which just means, in a backassward way, no clouds (snow source) to hold the heat in at night and so it gets colder.


Maverick


Mary, Did You Know?




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wolfguard says:
(Thu Dec 7 02:18:21 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick,

From your post ...

"... For instance the heat from the sun is transitory and is held in by the
greenhouse gases or not, so each holding molecule IS the heat source...

"

By this logic, one's bed-covers are the heat source that warms one in bed.

PFFT


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Dec 7 02:11:52 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick,

I haven't checked my email since this afternoon - haven't seen the video.

My post on your swimming pool analogy was written before reading the 'article'
you linked. Having read it, no need to change anything in the post.

Trying to parse your run-off sentence of a post. Will get back once I've done
so.

WG



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Maverick says:
(Thu Dec 7 02:06:28 2017 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: I meant to ask you what you thought of the Rose Garden video I sent you of the Obama heroic fakery. This is emblematic of everything he has stood for and the scamming that his administration has foisted upon America.


Maverick


Christmas Is Coming




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wolfguard says:
(Thu Dec 7 01:47:16 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Dec 7 04:54:18 2017
Maverick,

I read your link earlier tonight. It came across as something written by a
bright high school student with a point to prove (see the repeated, ~ water
vapor ignored ~). Some of the references were close to two decades old. I hope
to come back and comment on it more fully later tonight.

And I'll do numbers!

Oh, who wrote it? I didn't see a name.



ETA Monte Hieb created the page.


WG



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Maverick says:
(Thu Dec 7 01:24:29 2017 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: With kindness as a random act.


Wolfguard: Well, you jumped the gun. You need to absorb the calculations (in the "what's wrong with this") link I provided BEFORE you can really evaluate whether (and not ALL CO2, but only human-involved industrial production CO2, and not even all that but only the INCREASE in human-involved industrial production CO2); THAT amount of CO2 influences the atmosphere in about the same relative way as peeing in a pool will change the temperature of the water in the pool. Once you get back on track with this, there are other assumptions you've made that are also questionable. For instance the heat from the sun is transitory and is held in by the greenhouse gases or not, so each holding molecule IS the heat source. Now remember I specified that I'm only talking about the the increase of industrial produced CO2, BUT even if you take the 400 ppm figure, that's percentage-wise 40 parts per 100,000 and only 4 parts per 10,000. Only 1 part per 10,000 should, at most, be considered.


DaddyCatALSO: CO2 IS relatively stable BUT IS as variable as atmospheric H2O. Plants breathe in CO2 during the day (needs sunlight) when they perform photosynthesis and exhale O2; then, during the night, they exhale just a bit of CO2 whereas people exhale CO2 all day and all night. BUT the concentrations of CO2 are significantly less during the day. Now, when do you think AGW Alarmists measure CO2? Day or Night? Also, think about this. In 1960 there were 3 Billion people in the world; today there are over 7 Billion, each breathing in O2 and BREATHING OUT CO2. That has ADDED lots of CO2 to the atmosphere on a daily, hourly basis. Also, in the Amazon rainforest, which used to be thought of as the "lungs" of our earth (removing loads of CO2 from the atmosphere and providing lots of O2) vast deforestation has been allowed which changed (decreased) the amount of CO2 that previously had been pulled out of the air, replacing it with O2 resulting in a net INCREASE of CO2. Another process that needs to be seriously looked at is many people believe that the level of CO2 in the atmosphere is actually a lagging indicator as a result of a heating atmosphere. In other words the heat comes first and subsequently releases CO2 versus the opposite: an increase of CO2 somehow causing additional heat. Historically this seems to have validity. The arguments are compelling.


Belated Yay! to Paksenarrion


Paksenarrion is Maverick Fanfic Recommender # 55 in good standing.


Finally finished Season Five (final) of "Bates Motel," a worthy effort and very well done. Freddie Highmore (a Brit doing an American accent [he also does it for "The Good Doctor"] is fabulous as Norman Bates as well as Vera Farmiga as mother Norma Bates. Casting was so spot on which guaranteed a success.


John Conyers has resigned from Congress, recommending his son as his replacement. Conyers has been an obstacle to blacks integrating naturally into the culture, as he has led the effort to build the urban plantation as a warehouse source of Democrat votes. Interesting, John's wife Monica was on Detroit's City Council and pled guilty of taking a bribe and she spent 27 months (of a 37 month sentence.) The family seems to have a certain attitude of entitlement.


Maverick


All I Want For Christmas Is You




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wolfguard says:
(Thu Dec 7 00:22:25 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

"Chaos isnt a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never
get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb,
they cling to the real or the gods or love. Only the ladder is real. The climb
is all there is."

- Littlefinger, The Game of Thrones


One of the disadvantages in hewing to transactional diplomacy are the results
can disappear as the players disappear. When President Trump leaves office the
stage will be reset.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Dec 6 23:23:12 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Well, at least Trump didn't make Jerusalem Israel's capital via tweet!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Dec 6 23:09:47 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Dec 6 23:22:20 2017
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: How did Lilah kill Linwood?
Answer: decapitation


Trivia Master: OldManFan!
Trivia Songman: Agent Cooper!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Dec 6 20:47:51 2017 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Softly. With her song.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Dec 6 18:44:34 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By

DaddyCatALSO,

I've not yet read the linked article, so cannot comment on your observation. That said, another fact about CO2 is it's a by-product of the combustion of fossil fuels. Since the combustion of fossil fuels accelerated in the past few centuries, so has the emission of CO2 into the atmosphere.

....


Why Nigeria needs multi-lingual soldiers

...Nonetheless, the Nigerian military is seen as one of the most nationalistic and unifying institutions in the country - with many of its personnel in cross-cultural marriages because of their postings.

A soldier will have served in all parts of Nigeria - Africa's most populous country - during the course of his or her career.

For those with a gift for languages, it is an opportunity to learn in the areas they are deployed or from colleagues from other regions.

English is the formal language of the military and government - and even with the new requirement, will remain the official language.

But in the years after independence in 1960, there were more northerners at junior levels of the army, meaning that Hausa, the lingua franca of the north, was often used to aid communication between the lower ranks and officers...
"

Source (BBC)



WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Dec 6 17:44:50 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick wolfguard One flaw in the water-vapor- CO2 comparison is that water vapor has always been known to be a variable component of the atmosphere. CO2 is a stable component. So, increasing the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere by releasing the ancient carbon of coal, oil, and gas cannot help but to increase the atmosphere's capacity to hold in heat.



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OldManFan says:
(Wed Dec 6 17:06:19 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - booby trapped office furniture sliced his head off.

OMF



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Dec 6 16:08:30 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: How did Lilah kill Linwood?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Dec 6 14:53:08 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Wednesday, December 6th 2017 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Angelphyre
Batra
Kansas
School Girl
Zindarella

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angelphyre, Batra, Kansas, School Girl, Zindarella



Oh, Pacey! You blind idiot. Can't you see she doesn't love you? Spike, 'Out of My Mind''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Dec 6 14:33:53 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay dogmeat!

deadguy qod

That's a tough question for me right now. Given the statement by Kai not that long ago. It would depend on the project, I think.


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Dec 6 14:26:18 2017 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Deadguy question - Since the Marvel movies His Jossness is wealthy beyond imagination. Even after the divorce, and the inevitable harassment legal settlements that are surely coming, he'll still have more money than I can comprehend logically. He probably has to hire Stephen Hawking and rent 3 days of time on a supercomputer to accurately calculate his wealth at tax time.

So.... no.


I will however, donate a few Bronze Bucks to the annual "Pay Down Thoin's Bar Tab Holiday Fund."



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Dec 6 14:17:20 2017 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe *OUCH!*

:-)



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Dec 6 12:30:09 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for dogmeat!

yay dogmeat!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

slayers, the next generation - a gofundme project with excellent perks

if joss were financing his next project through online means (gofundme, indiegogo, etc.) would you be a backer?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Dec 6 07:56:25 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By 2 of 2

Belated Yay Paksenarrion!


Belated Yay Jaan Quidam!


Bleated Yay Petrona!




Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question


Which of the scoobies is on Santa's nice list or naughty list this year?

Spike, Willow, Faith, and Xander have some explaining to do.



Belated Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

Does Angel go Christmas shopping (or any kind of shopping)?

No, but he did stand-in for Santa Claus at the Sunnydale Mall in 1998.



Bleated Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question

Which of the scoobies is the easiest to shop for?

Giles

A book, a pack of eyeglass wipes, or a cuppa tea.




Magick


Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Dec 6 07:42:04 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By 1 0f 2

Maverick,

I do not know if anything is wrong with it till I read and ponder on it - which I cannot do at 0151H. *g*

Until then, a quick comment on the 'peeing in the pool' analogy (email). For those others reading, the analogy went something like this ...


- The impact of CO2 on the atmosphere was similar to the impact of heat from urine peed into a swimming pool on the temperature of the swimming pool.-


Let's begin with the amount of urine ...

How much urine in a single whiz? Some quick and dirty research says the average bladder holds 1.5-2.0 cups or urine.

Another site noted, "The scientists calculated that one 220,000-gallon, commercial-size swimming pool contained almost 20 gallons of urine. In a residential pool (20-by-40-foot, five-feet deep), that would translate to about two gallons of pee."1

First off, the proportion of pee to pool water is 1/110,000 which is probably much larger than the ratio of CO2 to the rest of the components of the atmosphere.2 On the surface, this favors the argument that CO2 is too inconsequential to be causing global warming. The flaw in the analogy, which undermines the argument, is the warming mechanisms are different. Follow ...

The pee in the pool is the source of the heat. Fresh pee is probably around body temperature, ~98.6 degrees F. Swimming pools are around 77-82 degrees F. Heat flows from hot regions to colder regions via radiation and/or conduction and/or convection. The heat in the pee will move into the surrounding water until equilibrium is reached. Soon the pee will be the temperature of the surrounding water.

The CO2 in the atmosphere is not the source of the heat. The source of the heat is the Sun. Sunlight hoses the Earth. Some of the sunlight is reflected by clouds-ice-shiny surfaces and the rest is absorbed by land and sea and then radiated as infrared back through the atmosphere into space. Some of the infrared will be trapped as heat by various gases in the atmosphere.

The analogy fails.


1"Health Shots" (NPR)

2 The atmosphere is a mixture of gases with nitrogen comprising around 78% and oxygen around 21%. All the other stuff are referred to as trace gases, each less than 1%.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
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Rather Quiet tonight!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Dec 6 03:01:03 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick What have you been
up to?



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Maverick says:
(Wed Dec 6 02:54:35 2017 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Dec 6 02:55:23 2017
Trivia Girl: Luci(fer) DeVil(le).


Wolfguard: What's wrong with THIS?


Maverick


Last Christmas




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Dec 6 02:15:01 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Finally home!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Dec 5 22:09:42 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
*pokes* Agent Cooper



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Dec 5 20:26:27 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Hah! Interesting answer!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Dec 5 19:52:37 2017 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Arthur Fonzarelli



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Dec 5 19:35:00 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl,

Sarah Michelle Gellar?


WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Dec 5 15:53:58 2017 166.137.126.130|206.124.19.186) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
James Stanley



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Dec 5 15:35:58 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who possessed Buffy in
the episode 'I Only Have Eyes for
You'?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Dec 5 14:54:25 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Tuesday, December 5th 2017 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


Amy Acker as Winifred 'Fred' Burkle
Den Mother of the Lurkers

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Den Mother and Amy Acker!



It's my estimation that... every man ever got a statue made of him, was one kind of sumbitch or another. Mal, 'Jaynestown''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Dec 5 14:41:34 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay paksenarrion!

deadguy qod

Buffy - Nice
Anya -Nice
Xander - Naughty
Willow - Naughty
Tara - Nice
Dawn - Nice
Cordy - Nice
Spike - Naughty

Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Dec 5 14:36:23 2017 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Belated Birthday neonate!


Yay! Paks!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Dec 5 12:26:33 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for paksenarrion

yay paksenarrion!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

sunnydale santaland - we've got the ho ho hoes

which of the scoobies is on santa's nice list or naughty list this year?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Dec 5 04:52:35 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

They depend on folks falling asleep or experiencing 'glazed-eyes syndrome'.
*g*

Anti-abortion "bill" or a rider on the tax bill?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Dec 5 04:41:26 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I think I fell asleep after section 401. *g* When the House and Senate version differ, I understand there is a 'reconciliation process before they are voted upon again?

I also saw mention that a number of non-tax related amendments were put in into the bill, ie an anti-abortion bill.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Dec 5 03:33:05 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

*

The * is a link to the text of the tax bill. (I could not make the link work
with a longer description than the *. Perhaps a portent? *g*)



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Dec 5 03:02:36 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Step 1. Read the proposed legislation.

Today, I believe on "Press Pool", it was reported that the Senate has a
different take on some parts of the bill, i.e. the House wants X, and the
Senate wants X-Different/Not. So ...

Step 2. Why?


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Dec 5 02:54:03 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I've read and heard multiple conflicting reports about the tax bill. Trying to figure out is difficult, but at some point things get sifted down to something more comprehensible. It's perfectly clear at least that there will be people and organizations who benefit from the tax bill, and others who will be very hurt by this bill. So that creates 'sides' depending on which organizations or people you support.

I honestly don't know whether this bill helps or hurt me personally, but I do know that this bill was hastily put together with horse-trading and whatnot that borders on the ridiculous. Something this complex was shoved through more to get it done than a good tax reform bill.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Dec 5 02:33:16 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

None of us have the time or expertise to research all the things that might
matter to us. We depend on signals - licenses, certifications, reviews,
opinions of people we trust. We also depend on our worldviews. People who
don't trust government believe information and points-of-view that confirm
that belief. Same for people who don't trust corporations. Back in 2009 or
so, you asked why won't (some) people trust Obama on health care? I asked
you, would you trust McCain on healthcare? No - if not hesitant.

Take the proposed tax bill. Today on CNN or MSNBC, one participant noted
several mainstream organizations1 whose analysis concluded the
bill would end up costing middle-class taxpayers. Another participant said
there were similar organizations whose analysis concluded the opposite,
e.g. the American Enterprise Institute and the Heritage Foundation. One
could counter, both of those favor free-markets and limited government 'so
of course they would conclude the tax bill will work. And that's where it
ended - each side trust the organization that bolsters their beliefs or
inclinations.

Most all economic policies have some sort of underlying model. What is it?
How does it work? What's the evidence for it? What are the assumptions
made?

For instance, assume economic growth of X% could cut employment to Y% and
government debt to Z%. Assume tax cuts of TC% would create that growth.
There you go. If you already belief, that may be all you need. If you
don't, check the assumptions and the details.

Now rewrite the above replacing tax cuts with increases in the minimum
wage. Role reversal. The reality is that even those who disagree with tax
cuts or minimum wage increases probably will not analyze their opponent's
policies for weaknesses, because they already 'know' the weaknesses are
there. They know the relevant litany. No time need be spared to think.


1 I knew them all, but don't remember one of them now.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Dec 5 00:32:46 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Kind of making a mountain of a molehill. Reading one article about vaccines and that being the entire basis of your anti-vaccine attitude.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Dec 4 22:42:26 2017 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
unnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Quotes
Question: Who once said "A little learning is a dangerous thing."?
Answer: Pope

Trivia Know it Alls: notsoShyGirl, OldManFan, wolfguard!


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