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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Apr 25 01:33:03 2017 70.198.51.43) [Edit/Delete]
Shade of bronze

Hush!!!

Or once more with feeling!!



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Shade of Bronze says:
(Tue Apr 25 01:21:14 2017 47.146.129.65) [Edit/Delete]
Well one of my all time favorites is, The Puppet Show. The humorous scene in the library when Xander realizes Sid is gone, the perplexed faces of the Scooby gang when Sid is telling his story, the "limber, nubile" comment by Sid, the end scene shown on stage for the talent show and last but not least the acting by
Buffy, Willow and Xander. Madness ...



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Apr 25 00:57:53 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Shades of Bronze,

Impossible choice! *g*


Christopher Marlowe,

BBC reports Le Pen did so saying she will be above ~partisan considerations~
when ~seeking French presidency.


Comma,

"History Lesson": Lobsters were so common off New England shores around the
17th century that servants would be fed them - often. So often that there's
at least one document where servants demanded lobster only be served a
couple days a week. *g*



WG



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Shade of Bronze says:
(Tue Apr 25 00:39:44 2017 47.146.129.65) [Edit/Delete]
ChristopherMarlowe, Hi!

How about this general topic ... If you had to pick just one episode out of ALL 7 seasons, what would be your favorite episode and why?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Apr 25 00:28:00 2017 70.198.48.42) [Edit/Delete]
Shade of bronze

It's has been twenty years...M up
for Buffy talk if there is a topic!



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Shade of Bronze says:
(Tue Apr 25 00:10:53 2017 47.146.129.65) [Edit/Delete]
shoot me, stuff me, mount me



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Comma says:
(Tue Apr 25 00:06:56 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
History Lesson: When Desoto's men traveled to present day western Alabama they were very surprised that the Native women, in many different ways, were all wearing pearls. In Europe only the wealthy could afford ocean pearls. The Native women showed the Spaniards how, in the shoals at the base of the local water falls, they collected the fresh water muscles, threw them on hot coals, and, when the shells of the muscles got heated up, the shells busted open and fresh water pearls would pop out. Pearls from Alabama's shoals have been discovered as far north as Canada and as far west as Spiro, OK. Plus there is a very large collection in Madrid, Spain. The great thing is, the pearls, depending on the sand color on the river bottom, are in all different colors.

Comma



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Shade of Bronze says:
(Tue Apr 25 00:03:10 2017 47.146.129.65) [Edit/Delete]
I'm sorry, don't mean to offend! I visit on a regular basis, lurk, then go away. The majority of conversation seems to be non buffyverse related and that's just fine. Slinking away now.



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Shade of Bronze says:
(Mon Apr 24 23:54:51 2017 47.146.129.65) [Edit/Delete]
Is this no longer a buffy/angel posting board?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Apr 24 23:51:36 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Le Pen resigned from her party. That appears to be a rather remarkable thing to do prior to an election!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Apr 24 23:18:02 2017 100.4.183.212) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick: Mann is the "Hockey Stick" guy. He and his colleagues got caught fudging data and then conspiring to cover up said fudging when their email servers got hacked, before it was even fashionable. :-)

Now he is suing Mark Steyn for defamation, or something. For criticizing his scientific opinions. Because THAT's what scientists do when their findings are challenged. Sue in court to silence the opposition. Yeah.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Apr 24 23:02:21 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Music
Question: What cities are mentioned in 'Sweet Home Alabama'?
Answer: Birmingham and Muscle Shoals

Trivia Master: Comma!
Trivia Comedian: Agent Cooper!

BTW, OldManFan found himself blocked from the Beta, and was unable to post the Yay of the Day.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Apr 24 21:34:43 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
home a bit early.



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Comma says:
(Mon Apr 24 21:14:34 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Everyone: Grew up in Alabama and I have visited the tri cities of Florence, Lena and muscle Shoals. I know where the VFW is located in Florence and where the music studios are in Muscle Shoals.

Comma



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Apr 24 19:32:39 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Mon Apr 24 19:36:43 2017
lostinamerica wolfguard While the First Slayer has a certain monitoring presence with all f uture Slayers, she as herself is not *in* them.

Maverick Comma Muscle Shoals is a town, and there's a famous dam there. It is named after a kind of freshwater mussel common in the area which is large and very hard to open, therefore called a muscle shell.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Apr 24 18:39:39 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica,

In your opening line, "So, we have a Slayer who had tasted what it's like in Heaven and is ready to go back...", is the "we" referencing the writers or fans' viewpoint? If the former, then life is hell was the season theme. The writers make that clear in Bargaining 2 when on the tower Buffy turns to Dawn and ask, ~ Is this hell?

What makes life hell? In part, all the day-to-day demands most of us face. How will Buffy deal? She gets a a job, one than most fans thought beneath her (remember Snyder predicting it?). What next? 'Going through the motions', meaningless sex.1 What do the writers suggest she do to solve the problem? I suspect it's what Spike said to her in Something to Sing About. I think the answer to the theme of the season was made by John Milton in Paradise Lost...

"The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven." - Milton


1 I have been a bit confused over what Buffy sings in Going Through the Motions and what she told Spike in Afterlife. She sings that she wants the fire back, but she told Spike that life was too bright and harsh. I couldn't post the actual dialogue, because Buffyworld appears offline.


WG



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cmarlowe says:
(Mon Apr 24 18:39:16 2017 107.167.126.98) [Edit/Delete]
in a conference this afternoon



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Comma says:
(Mon Apr 24 18:35:01 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Mon Apr 24 18:40:46 2017
Trivial Girl: Montgomery, indirectly but not by name, Muscle Shoals, and Birmingham by actual name. Or, as us CB users called them in the seventies, Monkey Town, Swampville, and B'Ham.

Comma



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Maverick says:
(Mon Apr 24 18:28:57 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Mon Apr 24 18:35:53 2017
Trivia Girl: "In Birmingham, they love the Gov'nor." That's one. They also mention Muscle Shoals; is that a town?


Christopher Marlowe: Seriously, you don't take any of my links? What are you afraid of? Learning something new? Well, I'll just let you wallow in your self-imposed ignorance. Good luck with that!


Agent Cooper: Michael Mann? The Hockey Stick guy? He and Mark Steyn (Canadian, understands hockey sticks-haha) are locked in a Kung-Fu-grip lawsuit regarding the Stick and Global Warming. Funny, I was on the Internet once and ended up watching a college course in Principal Components Analysis as part of this professor's Machine Learning Course. I wasn't understanding much of what he was talking about and was about to give up and then he mentioned the error of the Hockey Stick Graph, that Michael Mann had either screwed up his PCA OR had deliberately fudged his data. It was a matter of using the wrong "mean" (average) in his calculations. I remember the guy said "Mann published his error." I sent this to Mark Steyn but never heard anything back from him. Interestingly, for me, I DID see a similar graph to Mann's Hockey Stick rise in CO[2 concentrations; it was a graph of the world's population, the people of which exhale CO2


Maverick


You Make Me Feel Brand New




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wolfguard says:
(Mon Apr 24 18:00:20 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

I recall them being engineers specializing in spaceflight ops. However it was several years ago I read it, so took a chance that a few of them might have been meteorologist or climatologist. Just googled the letter and read the list. I don't see anyone whose job title reflects climate science. Here's the list ...

The Letter (businessinsider.co)


In your earlier post you noted people will just find an expert who agrees with them - and so you have. Do you recall the name of the "leading expert"?

To me, though the devil is in the details, it's back of the envelope science using basic principles and indisputable facts.

1. The Greenhouse Effect

2. CO2 is a greenhouse gas

3. CO2 is a byproduct of burning fossil fuels

4. Humans burn fossil fuels to generate electricity, provide transportation, etc.

5. Humans have been burning fossil fuels for several centuries with the amounts increasing each century.

6. The C02 created enters the atmosphere. Some will be washed out to the ground and ocean (where it creates another problem), but some remains.

7. Consequently there are more C02 molecules available to trap sunlight reflected from the earth's surface.

For a decade or so, I've watched the satellite imagery of the Arctic ice cap. It's shrinking dramatically during the summers. I see plant and animal ranges extending further northward than before. Spring beginning earlier and fall later.

On this matter, I don't believe we've got the mental or cultural intelligence to change our behaviors. If the earth system changes gradually, then humans as a whole will adapt, though many will pay a significant price - including death. OTOH, if there exist non-linear surprises1, then we may not be able to adapt quickly enough and complex systems will collapse. There will be a die-off and survivors will create new, simpler societies. It's happen before. Humans have and always will be at the mercy of nature. It's not about "saving the earth" it's about saving particular human societies and cultures. Meanwhile, the Heartland Institute and its like pay the band tab on the Titanic.


1 Such as circumpolar permafrost melting leading to bacteria activation leading to the decomposing of once-frozen biomatter leading to methane released to atmosphere (CH4 is around 20x more potent a greenhouse gas than CO2).


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Apr 24 15:45:00 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Cities that are in ALABAMA, of course! Hah!

If you're going to resort to trick questions to fool ol' Agent Cooper, you'll have to do better than THAT.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Apr 24 14:59:32 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Music
Question: What cities are mentioned in 'Sweet Home Alabama'?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Apr 24 14:23:55 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: But a few of them WERE climate scientists, yes? And anyway there are definitely legitimate climate scientists who disagree with the man made global warming theory. Just recently in fact, one of the climate scientists considered to be a (if not THE) leading expert on and strong proponent of the MMGW theory changed her mind and has decided it is not proven and a driven my politics and not science.

And say, Michael Mann is a bona fide climate scientist, isn't he? :-P

I don't want this to devolve into a GW argument, God knows that's been done to death. The point is, like I said, when the so called experts can't agree then how can lay people be sure what is objective science and what is agenda driven half truth?



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Apr 24 12:48:02 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard--Sorry, forgot
about Season 6 post :(

So, we have a Slayer who has
tasted what it's like in Heaven
and is ready to go back. How do
we reengage her in life and her
mission? We don't do it by
burdening her with the problems of
life and her friends, that's for
sure.

Since she was brought back with
magic, maybe they should have kept
her going with magic. Would there
be a way to bring the First Slayer
inside her out, and keep her out,
so she could continue her mission?
How would this have affected her
relationship with the Scooby Gang,
or would the First Slayer soften?
I would have loved to get more
information on the life of the
first Slayer.

I have no ideas right now as to a
Big Bad for Season 6. Stay with
the magic theme, Season 6 is the
season investigating magic and its
power?

cc Agent Cooper


Happy Birthday Trinity!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Apr 24 11:40:30 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Monday, April, 24th 2017 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Battle Kitten
Cian(I'm Irish)
Del
Jaxom
Trinity
weebeasties

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to elreyn24Battle Kitten, Cian, Del, jaxom, Trinity, weebeasties!



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Apr 24 05:41:04 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

If I read or heard right, Macron is a mainstream, cosmopolitan, technocrat much in keeping with French thinking towards the EU - of twenty years ago. It will be a clear choice for those on the right or center. OTOH, those on the left may have to think long on their next move, because if you are against the establishment, then Macron is not your candidate. OTOOH, if being on the Left means valuing diversity and supra-governmental institutions, then you can't vote for Le Pen. What are you going to do, sit it out? OTOOOH, just as there were Bernie supporters who liked some of Trump's economic nationalism, there might be some on the French Left who see some possibilities in Le Pen. I don't know. It'll be fascinating.


WG



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Comma says:
(Mon Apr 24 02:50:14 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe: It seems that the same people who never admitted that they were going to vote for Trump now may not admit that they wish that they had not voted for him. Then again, the same persons who did the great polls that told us that Clinton was a shoe in are the same persons still running the polls.

In personal information, I think that I have stated on here before that I was adopted in 1955. While I have discovered and met, in the last ten years, most of my birth Father's side of my family, I have never discovered anything on my birth Mother. What little I do know is she was from somewhere up north, maybe the Springfield, OHIO area, she was in Erie, PA, on April 30 1952, because she gave birth to me that date, she gave birth to my brother Jimmy in 1954 in Springfield, OH, she worked in a small caf, in Dothan, AL, in 1954 and 1955, she may have been remarried, in Houston County, AL, in 1956, and she may, may, have lived in the Mobile, AL area years after that. I also know her maiden name, Ethel Mae Davis. Her first married name, and my birth last name, was Mauldin.

I wish I could just find out more about her and her side of my family. I have six half brothers and sisters on my Father's side. I would love to know if I have any on my birth Mother's side? Plus what other family do I have on her side?

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Apr 24 01:37:17 2017 70.198.44.222) [Edit/Delete]
Anyone else around tonight?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Apr 23 22:58:01 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I was following the French elections, it looks like Le Pen and Macron are the two finalists.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Apr 23 21:48:40 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Comma Why would people admit regretting voting for Trump?



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Comma says:
(Sun Apr 23 17:43:11 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
The Washington Post just came out with a very interesting poll. It says that only 4% of Trump voters say that they would voter differently if the election were held today, while 17% of Clinton voters say that they would have changed their votes for her in the primaries and 7% state that they would not have voted for her in the General election. That in direct opposition to what the members of the media have been reporting.

Comma



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Apr 23 12:49:44 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Sunday, April 23rd 2017 C.E.

We have ELEVEN (11) Birthdays!


*~*Anna*~*
ABG
Bruces Mom
Cooks43
FelisFini
Lady Wolfsbane
lasahana
TheMayor
Verinthalia's son
Violet
Vivian

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to *~*Anna*~*, ABG, Bruces Mom, Cooks43, FelisFini, Lady Wolfsbane, lasahana, TheMayor, Verinthalia's son, Violet, Viviane!



I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly is a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid. Early, 'Objects In Space''

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Comma says:
(Sun Apr 23 12:34:18 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
My thoughts on global warming:

1. When I was in the third grade we were shown a film by the National Weather Service. That film talked about core samples, taken from around the world, showing that the earth should, at that time, be in a slow warming period. That slow warming should continue until 2040. Between 2040 and 2140, temperatures should stay on an even course, then start cooling down, to another ice age, over the next 50,000 years or so. The weather, and the effects that the weather is having on the earth, is 100% still living up to that film's reporting.

2. The scientist, who receive grants, seem all to believe in global warming, caused by man, before they start a study, then they prove themselves right.

3. While I really believe that man could treat this earth a lot better, I do not believe that Mother Nature cannot repair herself even from us. If she couldn't, then everything sent up would have killed all living matter already.

Comma



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Comma says:
(Sun Apr 23 12:15:12 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
The living cast of 'Happy Days' will be gathering in Indiana later this week. R.I.P. actress Erin Moran, Joanie Cunningham on the show.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Apr 23 04:16:29 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
MAverick I don't follow any of your links.



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Maverick says:
(Sun Apr 23 04:11:48 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe: You couldn't understand the link I gave you? Science SHOULD be above politics, but the Left has corrupted it, so Obama used the scare of Global Warming as just another way to control (depress) the economy and thus the people. Obama originally corrupted NASA, appointing a toady named Bolden to doctor the Temperature Data to make it look like CO2 is responsible for warmer temperatures. Obama's directive to Bolden, "Involve Muslims in Space Exploration." Consensus Science is simply not Science; it is political science. And now the attempt is to use what the Left wants to think is science as just another anti-Trump hammer. Trump will return Science to the purity of the application of The Scientific Method and all conclusions will need to withstand continuous objective scrutiny.


Maverick


Love Theme from Star Trek The Motion Picture




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Apr 23 03:29:12 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick No, I Marched for Science, which is above politics. Science is EXTREMELY important to our state.



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Maverick says:
(Sun Apr 23 00:01:02 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Apr 23 00:02:57 2017
Christopher Marlowe: You marched for Political Science - it's not the same. This attempts to explain the difference.


Agent Cooper: Here's the article wolfguard referred to. "50 Former Astronauts and Scientists Denounce NASA Stance on Global Warming". Their objection was more that, as scientists, they recognize how to approach Science, and the Global Warming Alarmists were simply not using "The Scientific Method" to reach their bogus conclusions, thus NOT lending any credence to their suppositions (based on models that simply do not work.)


Maverick


Turn The Beat Around




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 22 23:38:10 2017 70.198.46.73) [Edit/Delete]
Ow for some art and fiction!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 22 19:55:02 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
I MARCHED for Science!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Apr 22 14:11:01 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Saturday, April 22nd 2017 C.E.
Happy Earth Day!

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Angel's Gift
Dayzee
ronia
randomx
TheStage

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to elreyn24, GrimReaper, Polgarita, turtle!



Anya, the Shopkeepers of America called. They wanted me to tell you that 'please go' just got replaced with 'have a nice day.'Xander, 'No Place Like Home''''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 22 03:39:14 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sat Apr 22 03:52:32 2017
wolfguard Thank you for the uplift and the recommendations!


I know one friend of mine always says she believes there is a little art in everyone.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Apr 22 02:35:36 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,


Understanding Art: If It Seems to Be Confusing, that's Exactly the Point.


- Sociology for Dummies by Jay Gabler.




Language and Metaphor are the Keys to Human Success.

- Anthropology for Dummies by Cameron E. Smith and Evan T. Davies.




WG



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Apr 22 02:13:40 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I believe in art there can be a difference between being competent and
creative. It takes time and training to develop competence in working in a
particular artistic medium. OTOH, some people seem to be innately creative.

One person may turn-out technically superb works of over-worked ideas (The
Catalog of Official State Trees
). Another person may dab some colors on
paper creating a series of "Unofficial State Colors" (is this creative? What
about an exhibit of "Unofficial State Political Cartoons"?

It may be relatively easy to judge quality craftsmanship, but harder to assess
how creative a work of art is - and is creative the same as meaningful or
important or evocative or inspiring or .... ?

Embrace your inner muse. *g*



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 22 01:49:37 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Yeah, I was considering it. I've been dabbling in various types of art, but I don't think I'm 'artistic'. It occurred to me that I might be treating art as 'simple', thinking anyone can create good art.

But I might be suffering a bit of hubris there. It would be like thinking I can run experiments and be as smart as a scientist.

Art, like Science, takes lots of learning, and training to be good and successful at it.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Apr 22 01:45:24 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

You're thinking about entering an art contest?

Google "Dunning Kruger Effect". Follows an excerpt from the Wikipedia article
on the effect ..."

...The study was inspired by the case of McArthur Wheeler, a man who robbed
two banks after covering his face with lemon juice in the mistaken belief that,
because lemon juice is usable as invisible ink, it would prevent his face from
being recorded on surveillance cameras.[3]...


The Wheeler case made me think of the Bozo posts Beldin links to. *g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 22 00:34:43 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Did you catch my comment from last night?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 21 23:08:01 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Home sweet home!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 21 21:06:58 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

"They" are those who do not understand the science of a particular issue.
The "greenhouse effect" is a well-established scientific fact. Nature
doesn't care if you agree or disagree with it. If one disagrees with the
fact that momentum is conserved, then one doesn't understand the science.
For any given fuel in the presence of air (Earth air, ~20% oxygen) will
ignite at a specific temperature. It's a fact.

OTOH, there are certainly areas where the complexity allows more freedom.
There are areas where experts don't know enough to say this is the way it
is. For instance, something(s) is holding galaxies and galaxy clusters
together and something else is accelerating the universe's expansion. These
"somethings" are labeled 'dark matter' and 'dark energy', but to my
knowledge cosmological experts do not agree on much of the specifics.

I used the adjective, "cosmological", because being an expert in one area
does not necessarily make one an expert in another. I once read a report or
article describing a general science knowledge test given to a large sample
of scientists. Basic result: many scientists do not know much the science
foundations of other science fields, even the broad ones. For instance,
biologists might not know what leptons were or physicists what alleles were.
Which means just because someone holds a PhD in a field of science doesn't
mean they have any expertise in judging science matters outside their field.

An example was the public letter issued some years ago by a number of NASA
scientists and engineers criticizing findings on global warming. I read the
list. Beside each person's name was their profession. I remember few, if
any, whose profession was climatologist. I believe as a group they are
better qualified than those without science or engineering backgrounds, but
they are not as qualified as practicing scientists working in the field of
climate science. If one is dealing with cancer, a couple of oncologists'
advice outweighs a room of orthopedists, opthamologists, and ciropractors
(unless the cancer affects bones, eyes, or spine).

More later

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Apr 21 19:55:50 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: And there it is.

"In general, *THEY* do not display a working grasp of the underlying science."

"They" of course being the people who don't agree with the side you think is right. Those DUMMIES! The don't understand SCIENCE!

I don't think you mean it that way (or maybe you do ;) but that's how it comes across.

We all do it. That bias always creeps in. And that leads me to think of another problem: Every side has their own experts.

If you cite 3 scientists who hold one view of a topic, I can cite four scientists to cite who think YOUR 3 scientists are wrong. And then you can find 5 more who agree with you. And I can find 6....'

This is what these arguments look like on the internet now. Until they devolve into name calling anyway.

And who's right? If the learned experts in a field of study can't agree among themselves, then how does the average person tell? All it takes is one guy with a doctorate and an agenda to muddy the waters.

This is how you end up with normally rational, college educated anti-vaxxers.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 21 19:01:44 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

The article has more to say about the reasons. Without specific examples for your reasoning, I cannot agree or disagree. My own experience has mostly been with non-experts taking positions on biological evolution and climatology. In general, they do not display a working grasp of the underlying science. With respect to climate warming, the experts they cite are often guilty of the charges you made in your post.

In a few cases, I don't think these non-experts understood the articles or studies they cited. In part, they simply do not understand how science develops. They confuse meanings of some words, because they do know a given word has different meanings in science from in common use, e.g. "theory" or "power".

And then there's the factor of emotion. Non-experts tend to ignore experts except when the domain effects their values or interests. In these cases, they look for experts' takes that confirm what they what to believe is true and attack experts whose take affront their values or threaten their interests.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 21 17:48:34 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Lunch time!!! Ham a cheese sandwich and a banana!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Apr 21 17:09:57 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: If America has lost it's faith in professional expertise, I believe it's because that expertise, like everything else, has been politicized to the hilt. Too many times the so called "experts" have been caught reciting not facts, but falsehoods and half truths that push a political agenda.

Not all of them do this of course, but it only takes a few high profile instances of this nonsense for regular folks to start losing faith in any self-proclaimed expert.

This hurts both the honest professionals who are made to look shady by their less honorable colleagues in their field and the people they are trying to advise.

What really magnifies this problem is the now common tactic of accusing your political foes of being stupid and uneducated when they dare to question these obviously flawed "experts."



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Apr 21 13:02:13 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Friday, April 21st 2017 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Angel - Angelus - Liam
Avalonlmc
Karisma

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angel- Angelus- Liam, Avalonlmc, Karisma!



It's called a blaster, Will, a word that tends to discourage experimentation. Now, if it were called the Orgasmater, I'd be the first to try your basic button press approach.
Xander, 'This Year's Girl' '''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 21 12:55:00 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay lovely poet!


Happy Thank Joss Its Friday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Apr 21 12:45:02 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for lovely poet!

yay lovely poet!


Happy Thank Joss Its Friday!



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Adri says:
(Fri Apr 21 08:27:55 2017 98.150.210.7) [Edit/Delete]
Yay carita!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 21 04:26:57 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Apr 21 04:29:57 2017
wolfguard Oh sorry! I got distracted by twitter.

Kid Rock, Ted Nugent and Sarah Palin at the White house and that's not the opening to a joke.

And some misinformation about one of the Obama girls being kicked out of Harvard.

ETA

That last excerpt hits me a bit harder than the other two. I think I often overestimate my own abilities to do something, thinking it is not that hard to do.

One is thinking I can actually enter a art contest and win. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 21 03:53:15 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
"...But it turns out that less competent people overestimate themselves more
than others do ... The reason turns out to be the absence of a quality called
'metacognition', the ability to step back and see your own cognitive processes
in perspective. Good singers know when they've hit a sour note, good directors
know when a scene in a play isn't working, and intellectually self-aware people
know when they're out of their depth. Their less successful counterparts can't
tell - which can lead to a lot of bad music, boring drama, and maddening
conversations. Worse, it's very hard to educate or inform people who, when in
doubt, just make stuff up. The least competent people turn out to be the ones
least likely to realize they are wrong and others are right, and the most
likely to respond to their own ignorance by trying to fake it, and the least
able to learn anything..."

Ibid, p.65-66


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 21 03:42:15 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
"...The problem cannot be reduced to politics, class, or geography. Today,
campaigns against established knowledge are often lead by people who have all
the tools they need to know better. For example, the anti-vaccine movement ...
has gained its greatest reach among people such as the educated suburbanites in
Marin County, outside San Francisco, where at the peak of the craze, in 2002,
almost eight percent of parents requested a personal belief exemption from the
obligation to vaccinate their children before enrolling them in school. Those
parents were not medical professionals, but they had just enough education to
believe they could challenge established medical science, and they felt
empowered to do so - even at the cost of the health of their own and everybody
else's children..."

Ibid, p.63-64


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 21 02:46:27 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
"...The larger discussions, from what constitutes a nutritious diet to what
actions will best further U.S. interests, require conversations between
ordinary citizens and experts. But increasingly, citizens don't want to have
those conversations. Rather, they want to weigh in and have their opinions
treated with deep respect and their preferences honored not on the strength of
their arguments or on the evidence they present but based on their feelings,
emotions, and whatever stray information they may have picked up here or there
along the way..."

Ibid, p.62



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 21 01:36:19 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

What about an excerpt?

"...Public Policy Polling asked a broad sample of Democratic and Republican
primary voters whether they would support bombing Agrabah. Nearly a third of
Republican respondents said they would, versus 13% who opposed the idea.
Democratic preferences were roughly reversed; 36 percent were opposed and 19
percent were in favor. Agrabah doesn't exist. It's a fictional country in
the 1992 Disney movie Aladdin. Liberals crowed that the poll showed
Republicans' aggressive tendencies. Conservatives countered that it showed
Democrats' reflexive pacifism. Experts in national security couldn't fail to
notice that 43 percent of Republicans and 55 percent of Democrats polled had
an actual, defined view on bombing a place in a cartoon..."

From How America Lost Faith in Expertise by Tom Nichols in Foreign
Affairs
, March/April 2017, p.60


WG



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Maverick says:
(Fri Apr 21 01:12:07 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Went to my Local Library today. Brought back:

1. Season Three DVD's (the Final Season) of "Penny Dreadful."
2. Season Four DVD's of "Longmire"
3. Season Six DVD's of "Portlandia"
4. Season One, Volume One DVD's of "Outlander"


And I still have out the book "Godless" by Ann Coulter. Coulter's sense of humor is right on target as she documents the inconsistencies of Liberals with respect to such Liberal pursuits as releasing criminals, preserving abortion at all cost, and lying, among others. My impression is that abortions COULD be outlawed if the newly-born babies would immediately be able to vote Democratic.


Originally "Penny Dreadful" was an uneven disappointment, although Eva Green was interestingly beauteous; "Longmire" continues to charm as a cowboy's ratiocination detective series. "Portlandia" is consistently funny and the series is a revelation to those who like wry comedy; it's often silly-enough for my taste. I thought I'd give "Outlander" a try and hope it's not too much like "Highlander." Really, I don't know anything about "Outlander" other than it's some kind of time-travel adventure, kind of like "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court," but told from a female perspective.


Maverick


Eyes Without a Face




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
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wolfguard A penny for your thoughts. *g*



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Maverick says:
(Thu Apr 20 23:53:05 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: I assume Boo-Boo Bear also likes pick-a-nick baskets.


A boy defined: noise covered with dirt.


Venezuela used to be one of the wealthiest countries (because of its oil assets) in South America. Now the people can't even find toilet paper for sale in their stores (assuming they could afford it.) What happened? Well, Hugo Chavez got himself elected on a socialist (like Bernie Sanders) program and he, then, nationalized the oil industry there and, since it didn't have to be efficient to operate in a socialist country, it got lazy and did not maintain its oil assets and then the price of oil fell. Now, Chavez is dead and his successor has just nationalized General Motors businesses in the country. Meanwhile GM will not contribute any more money to its businesses and they will slow down until they stop. The government will not then innovate. Innovation is something a capitalist country's business do.


Maverick


Nights In White Satin




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 20 23:13:11 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Cartoons
Question: What cartoon character loves 'pic-a-nic baskets?
Answer: Yogi Bear

Trivia Rangers: DaddyCAtALSO and OldManFan!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 20 22:38:06 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
ah...home sweet home.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 20 21:31:22 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO,

No, I used two staff writers' comments on The Dark Age as a lead-in to
speculation on the interplay between the idea of Buffy dying and breaking a
season story. I did not say Giles' past lead to Buffy's death. :)

WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Apr 20 20:45:11 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I asked that because a previous comment you made said Ripper's past leads to Buffy's dying.



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OldManFan says:
(Thu Apr 20 18:53:18 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - Yogi Bear, the pride of Jellystone Park.

OMF



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wolfguard says:
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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 20 17:16:06 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Apr 20 17:17:08 2017
DaddyCatALSO,

"How does "The dArk Age" lead directly to "the Gift"?

Are you asking this as a trivia question or as topical question?


ETA A Slayer, a Witch, and a Pirate walk into a tavern...

*g*


WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Apr 20 17:04:47 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl Hey there, it's . . . Yogi Bear! I not only watched Hanna-Barbera as a kid, I owned the TV Tinykins.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Apr 20 15:40:51 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Cartoons
Question: What cartoon character loves 'pic-a-nic baskets?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Apr 20 11:57:49 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard lostinamerica Agent Cooper How does "The dArk Age" lead directly to "the Gift"?

wolfguard Comma Christopher Marlowe I have not read *GWTW* but given all the follow-ons were done long after Ms Mitchell died, it's safe to ignore them. In fact, I think the studio threw together another film for Gable to play Rhett Butler, but I have never been able to identify the title. I gather it isn't especially good.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 20 11:48:06 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay carita!


Happy CD Thursday!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Apr 20 11:31:35 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, April 20th 2017 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Boromir
Circe
CoverGirl
Nuala
Untouchable
Valeri29
Whitehorse dreams

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Boromir, Circe, CoverGirl, Nuala, Untouchable, Valeri29, Whitehorse dreams!



'Dear Diary, Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy.' 'Today, we were kidnapped by hill folk never to be seen again. It was the best day ever.' Jayne, 'Safe'' '''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Apr 20 11:04:26 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for carita!

yay carita!


Happy CD Thursday!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 20 05:40:16 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Amorphia!



Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question


Which death on BtVS or Angel did you cheer the loudest?

I never cheered any death, but I was able to breathe again after Buffy slayed Kralik in Helpless.



Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 20 03:52:30 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica & Agent Cooper,

2 of 2

During third season I read a book on BtVS, possibly the first Watcher's
Guide
. Two staff writers told of how Joss asked them to develop a story
about Giles' dark past. From this idea came the second season episode,
The Dark Age. Which leads to Buffy's death. Which leads to the
question, did the desire to kill her come before the story or did the story
come before the idea?

Did Buffy need to die, because her character and verse might lead her there
or did the story follow because killing her was evocative and would draw
fans in more deeply to the show?

I don't know, but I did know that killing her would have consequences and
those consequences would shape and be shaped by whatever theme Joss chose
for sixth season. The theme he appeared to choose was "life is hell"

Buffy to Dawn ~ Is this hell? (Bargaining 2)

The bills, broken plumbing, the search for work, the job that sucked, the
hat with the chicken on top - all life's minions at work. The Nerd Trio were
the personification of life's little demons peck-peck-pecking away at you.

This is the why of sixth season's stories. It may also be the reason that
many successful superheroes are very rich (Batman, Stark, ... can't think of
others, but I don't read these things). Anyway, too much real-world stuff
may be against the genre.

So, if you break a new sixth season and you don't like what you saw,
then you may have to change the theme. What themes interest you?


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 20 03:34:15 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Your comment prompted the memory that someone else wrote the sequel. I just
checked the Wikipedia article, "Gone with the Wind (novel)". Here's an
excerpt...

"...Although Mitchell refused to write a sequel to Gone with the Wind,
Mitchell's estate authorized Alexandra Ripley to write a sequel, which was
titled Scarlett.[179] The book was subsequently adapted into a television
mini-series in 1994.[180] A second sequel was authorized by Mitchell's
estate titled Rhett Butler's People, by Donald McCaig.[181] The novel
parallels Gone With the Wind from Rhett Butler's perspective. In 2010,
Mitchell's estate authorized McCaig to write a prequel, which follows the
life of the house servant Mammy, whom McCaig names "Ruth". The novel, Ruth's
Journey, was released in 2014.[182]

The copyright holders of Gone with the Wind attempted to suppress
publication of The Wind Done Gone by Alice Randall,[183] which retold the
story from the perspective of the slaves...."


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 20 02:16:13 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard, Comma I never read Gone with the Wind, but I know it had a sequel, albeit written considerably later.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 20 02:01:16 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Comma,

~ Never ended ~

?

WG



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Comma says:
(Thu Apr 20 01:53:15 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Two of my three favorite books did satisfy me. The two are 'The Old Man and the Sea' and 'For Whom the Bell Tolls'. The third book, 'Gone With The Wind' never ended.

Comma



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 20 01:47:02 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Individuals experience stories.1 The experience is mostly
subjective. Since individuals vary, it's unlikely everyone will agree on any
given story. In the vernacular, "You can't please everyone."

That said, genre stories use formats and one well-written to format will
probably please most fans. I suspect there are only a few fans of romantic
comedy who did not find the ending of When Harry Met Sally pleasing. I
suspect the classics from each genre are well-liked. It's why they're classics.

Literary works are different breed. Readers or viewers bring their own colored
glasses to the story and so shape how they see and judge it. It's one reason
literary works are harder to market. Critics, both professional and amateur,
switch out their glasses depending on their mood. :)


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 20 01:24:28 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica & Agent Cooper,

1 of 2

I matrix'd sixth season to draw out the character arcs.

6.1 Bargaining 1
6.2 Bargaining 2
6.3 Afterlife
6.4 Flooded
6.5 Life Serial
6.6 All the Way
6.7 Once More with Feeling

6.8 Tabula Rasa
6.9 Smashed
6.10 Wrecked
6.11 Gone
6.12 Double Meat Palace

6.13 Dead Things
6.14 Older and Far Away
6.15 As You Were
6.16 Hell's Bells
6.17 Normal Again
6.18 Entropy
6.19 Seeing Red

6.20 Villains
6.21 Two To Go
6.22 Grave


Character's Episodes

(This doesn't mean a character doesn't have an important role or nothing
significant happens to her, just that she's not the focus)

Willow: B1 (but not B2)/ TR / S / W / SR /V / 2TG / G

Xander: HB / "Entropy"

Anya: HB / "Entropy"

Dawn: ATW / OFA

Giles: None


Nerd Trio

They are not the focus, but the cause or obstacle in several episodes.
Specifically ...

Flooded, Serial Life, Smashed, Gone, Dead Things, Normal Again, Seeing
Red


They provide the motive for Willow's actions in Villains, Two to Go,
and the early part of Grave.


Buffy

If an episode is not built around one of the characters above, then it's a
Buffy story (All the Nerd Trio episodes are Buffy stories). Many of Willow's
episodes are also Buffy's, e.g. Smashed, Gone, Seeing Red, Grave.

I do not see Bargaining 1 as a Buffy episode. It's about Willow.
Bargaining 2 is Buffy's.

More later


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 20 00:54:53 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I'm pretty much talking any story in any media. The end of the Buffy tv series was good, Angel less so. I don't recall too many books who's ending left me satisfied, probably the closest is Lord of the Rings.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 20 00:45:49 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

What set of stories? BtVS? All the stories ever written? Something in between?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 20 00:42:55 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Has there been an ending to a story that has been truly satisfying though?



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 20 00:14:33 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO,

Viewers and readers give their time to a story. They can become emotionally
invested in the character(s). The story becomes real. A writer who ends a
story saying in effect, just kidding, stole from them.

A writer of a short story, in asking only a little of the reader's time, is
only committing a petty theft. Actually, better said a con that's explained.
The reader may find it clever enough to forgive the writer his lie.

OTOH, imagine this ending to The Lottery...

TESSIE
Ouch!!!

DIRECTOR
Cut!

PROP GUY
(checking stones)
Hey, these are real! Who's been playing with the props?



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Apr 19 23:16:55 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
I haz a new toaster!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Apr 19 19:22:48 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard "Excepting Ambrose Bierce, I have no respect for any writer who ends a story, especially a series, saying it was all a dream or a character's imagination." Then I'm glad that my original (well, third or fourth evolution of the idea after talks with my best friend of my undergrad days) idea for *The World, Like Glass* was never written.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Apr 19 18:22:49 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By


Lostinamerica,

I have so much to say on and off season six that I will have to wait till tonight to reply to your thoughts on it. :)


Agent Cooper,

Okay, but where does 'scratch' start for you? Oh, I hated that "Newhart" series finale, but then I watched that "Newhart" and not the first one. *g*

Excepting Ambrose Bierce, I have no respect for any writer who ends a story, especially a series, saying it was all a dream or a character's imagination.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Apr 19 17:57:01 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper LOL! Good one!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Apr 19 16:56:20 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Deadguy Memorial Quod Warren because of reasons.

lostinamericaWathcign S-6 individually, either broadcast or on VCR, it seemed like the perspective was off, like in the Rock Hudson movie *Seconds*. (of course, I missed a lot of episodes and my own schedule was weird then, too.) Seeing it years later on DVD it finally looked normal.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Apr 19 15:40:57 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: It was always in the right place...



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Apr 19 15:08:41 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Apr 19 21:12:52 2017
Trivia Girl
His heart is in his a$$



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Apr 19 14:46:24 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Where is Lorne's heart located?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Apr 19 14:19:46 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: RE Season Six: It would take a brave man with a hard a$$ to watch S6 straight through, alone, without alcohol or firearms. And ValMichael certainly was that man. Admittedly, I simply don't have his caliber of viewing fortitude nor his ability to counter insanity with pure, mathematical logic. And who among us does?

And anyway, I'm not even thinking about "working it into the story." I'm talking about starting completely from scratch here. Seriously. And when I say "start from scratch", I mean Bob Newhart It Was All Just A Dream And None of That Other Stuff Ever Really Happened levels of re-write. :-P

CC - Lostinamerica - Preach it sistah! :-)



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Apr 19 13:12:16 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Wednesday April 19th 2017 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


Cate
Dark Ivory
drdan
Imo
Mr. Drdan
PMSDemon
spikecanbitemeanytime
Willowhead

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Cate, Dark Ivory, drdan, Imo, Mr. Drdan, PMSDemon, spikecanbitemeanytime, Willowhead!



Zoe: Jayne. This is something the Captain has to do for himself. Mal: No! No, it's not!
'War Stories''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Apr 19 12:54:43 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay amorphia!

deadguy memorial angel wednesday qod

Huh... I think it might have to be Adam. That whole sequence was just so cool.


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Apr 19 12:20:32 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for amorphia!

yay amorphia!

todays deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

cheerleading u.s.a. - more than a hobby

which death on btvs or angel did you cheer the loudest?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Apr 19 12:03:13 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard, Agent Cooper--I'm surprised valMichael thought binge
watching Season 6 gave him more insight into the season--I can't see how ANYTHING
could give you more insight into THAT season ;)

Actually, the season started well, with Bargaining, parts 1
and 2, and After Life, which has one of my favorite moments in the show--
Buffy telling Spike she was really in Heaven. But then the rest of the season
falls apart, burdening Buffy with mundane problems; inexplicable
cast absences (would Giles really have disappeared
after Buffy is resurrected, really?); the addition of personal issues of other
members of the cast, Xander and Anya's marriage, and Willow's magic addiction;
Buffy's decision to have a relationship with a former enemy, Spike; and
a lame Big Bad, the Trio, followed by an unbelievable Big Bad, Willow.

Good God, see how much was going on in Season 6, too much, too much!


Belated Happy Birthday DarkLady and Irishrose!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Apr 19 03:45:45 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Fantasma!



Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question


If you are offered a writing job on BtVS or Angel, which show/season do you
hope it is?


BtVS - Season 8



Night All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Apr 19 02:55:06 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

Off your answer to the DGMBTQ. valMichael once posted that he had
watched sixth season straight through which allowed him to appreciate the
season story in a way not possible on first airing. The episodes scheduling
interfered the story tempo. Algerina once asked me to plot a sixth
season story without the Spuffy action. I did, but with the constraint that
all the other characters' arcs had to remain true to the original intent.
Why?

May 2001, Buffy died. That summer bronzers discussed how she would be
brought back. I posted it didn't matter so much as did the consequences of
her coming back. If you were to rewrite sixth season, without rewriting the
end of fifth season, then you have to answer such questions.

Moreover, the answers will be tied to your take on all the other scoobies.
1 As I recall, Joss had long wanted to do a story arc where
Willow went bad (believe it was planned for an earlier season but something
prevented it). So your story has to work that in.

Then there's Xander and Anya. More maneuver room here - unless you want Anya
to go demon again.

And Dawn. Some fans felt following The Gift that she was just an
artifact of a plot device (I disagree) but you have to do something with her
- and in light of Buffy's death and ressurection.

Finally, the big bad(s). Can we associate each previous season's big bad as
a personification of a season's theme? If so, what would yours be - season
theme/big bad(s)?


1 There was also the real-life constraint that ASH wanted more
time at home (UK), so the season has to explain Giles' absence.


Posting content since November 1998.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Apr 19 01:48:06 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

1) Stop tweeting1

2) Staff his administration

That's my brief answer. It's hard to answer more fully since it's easy to
mix one's values, preferences, and worldview with what should be an
objective analysis of an administration's foreign policy.

A more objective approach:

- Does the administration take care to keep foreign policy tools in good
working condition ( in alphabetical order - communications, diplomacy,
economics, finance, intelligence, military)?

- What guiding principles are used in dealing with other countries and
actors?

- What's the reasoning behind how proposed and actual policies, aimed at
specific issues, will work?

- Is there a way to measure how a program or policy is working?

- How do all the programs interact? Do they support each other or not? Are
there conflicts or contradictions? (For instance, opting out of the Trans-
Pacific Partnership was a godsend to China and yet at the time, Trump spoke
of China as an opponent).


1 The reason being he can confuse friends and staff (also
undercut staff).


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Apr 19 01:43:28 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Comma I haven't watched much of Bones since the first couple of episodes, but I seem to remember Charisma Carpenter on doing a fairly recent episode?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Apr 19 00:36:09 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Apr 19 01:12:06 2017
wolfgaurd How could Trump better do foreign policy?

ETA

Or alternatively, what advice would the Mayor of Sunnydale give to Trump right now?



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Comma says:
(Wed Apr 19 00:21:00 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
For those of all that watch 'BONES'[ I was watching a episode today and Tom Lenk was one of the suspects being questioned. Outside of him and David Boreanaz, have any of all seen other Buffy alumni on 'BONES'?

Comma



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Apr 19 00:03:31 2017 100.4.183.212) [Edit/Delete]
Hey, you guys remember Scrubs? That was a
good show. I miss it.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Apr 18 23:11:56 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What was the name of the female werewolf Oz had a fling with?
Answer: Veruca

Trivia Alphas: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Zeppos: Agent Cooper, Kennedy (lol)



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Apr 18 17:56:29 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl,

Kennedy?

*g*

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Apr 18 17:31:54 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe: So a bunch of my team was at the Job Fair, which is at a hotel close by. The fairs always have catered lunch. And nobody brought me back any FOOD! Jerks.

I am a sad pumpkin now!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Apr 18 16:36:54 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Mid-morning drive-by. Audits suck, no matter who is doing them!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Apr 18 16:22:56 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Aela The Huntress



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Apr 18 15:16:30 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Veruca



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Apr 18 14:43:23 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What was the name of the female werewolf Oz had a fling with?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Apr 18 13:18:15 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Tuesday, April 18th 2017 C.E.

We have ELEVEN (11) Birthdays!


Angelina
Damia
DarkLady
Faiths Follower
Irishrose
Janet Mejia
kathypg
Kurtis
Lark
Sara the Brown
sian

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angelina, Damia, DarkLady, Faiths Follower, Irishrose, Janet Mejia, kathypg, Kurtis, Lark, Sara the Brown, sian!



Anya: It's lovely! I wish it was mine! Oh like you weren't all thinking the same thing. Giles: I'm fairly certain I wasn't. 'Blood Ties'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Apr 18 13:09:58 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay fantasma!

todays deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question

I hope it is Buffy season 1! I think it would be more fun to be on a new show, just starting out than one that has been around the block for a while.


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Apr 18 12:26:55 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Deadguy Question: If you mean, "go back in time to right injustices of the past" , and I think you DO, then the answer is SEASON SIX!! *spit* I'd fire everybody on day ONE, start from scratch with a writing team that WASN'T clinically depressed and suicidal, and FIX THAT MESS! And on THAT day, the rising of the oceans would slow and our planet would begin to heal....



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Apr 18 11:23:08 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for fantasma

yay fantasma!

todays deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydal writing seminar - less horror, more puppies

you are offered a writing job on btvs or angel, which show/season do you hope it is?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Apr 18 03:15:08 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard About the same. I helped a friend pack up to move. Easter Sunday was spent at my mom's house, where we ate chicken teriyaki and cheesecake.

Still reading about the Fearless Girl and the Bull. It's been an interesting exploration on artists and public art.



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Maverick says:
(Tue Apr 18 02:58:00 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO: Yes, and yet an estimated 140,000,000 women alive today have had this "operation." And at the same time people like Ashley Judd want to say that Muslim women have more rights in countries like Iraq and Serbia than women have in the U.S. You just cannot fix stupidity to this degree. Ignorance is what Islam counts on to gain adherents (who, then, cannot leave, as they will be branded as Apostates and CAN be killed.)


Maverick


I Started a Joke




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wolfguard says:
(Tue Apr 18 01:44:30 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

More or less as expected. Yourself?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Apr 18 01:41:54 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard How did your weekend go?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Apr 18 00:58:57 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Watch out for them gators. *g*



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Apr 17 23:18:50 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Disney
Question: Who was the first person to voice Mickey Mouse?
Answer: I was going for James MacDonald, but my source appears to be wrong.

So notsoShyGirl is RIGHT, as usual!

Good attempts by wolfguard and Agent Cooper1



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Apr 17 22:57:14 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Today on Press Pool they were discussing the Trump administration's
efforts to fill government positions. One item was the possibility of some
former Bush folks taking positions. I believe the host, Julie Mason, remembered
that when Bill Clinton came to office in 1993, he did not want Democrats with a
lot of experience in DC, because - well, they were establishment. And then
Clinton discovered if he wanted Washington to work, then he needed people who
knew how Washington worked. The other journalist added, ~Yeah, you need people
who know how to swim in the swamp. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Apr 17 21:49:47 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
**Gasp...wheeze**

I really don't want a Monday like this ever again.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Apr 17 18:16:09 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Rich Little



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Apr 17 16:36:00 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl,

Donald Duck

It needs to be pointed out this was before the audience ever heard Donald speak in his own voice. The effort to get Mickey's voice to Walt's specs caused permanent damage to Donald's original voice creating the one the audience came to know and love. It's true!



WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Apr 17 15:10:49 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Walt Disney



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Apr 17 14:54:14 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Disney
Question: Who was the first person to voice Mickey Mouse?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Apr 17 13:44:16 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Belated Easter Bronzers!

My talking points for today:

1. Dad is recovering in rehab.
2. Easter weekend was nice.
3. Nice outside so got to ride the bike in to work today.
4. Mrs. Cooper's birthday is today. :-)
5. I think that's it.

Everybody have a good day.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Apr 17 13:21:00 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Monday, April 17th 2017 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Ch@risma17
ILerk
Sarah Louise

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Ch@risma17, ILerk, Sarah Louise!



Sometimes when I'm sitting in class... You know, I'm not thinking about class, 'cause that would never happen. I think about kissing you. And it's like everything stops. It's like, it's like freeze frame. Willow kissage. Oz, 'Innocence''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Apr 17 13:07:13 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay jaan quidam!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Apr 17 12:07:09 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
Yay! Jaan Quidam!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Apr 17 12:00:35 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for jaan quidam!

yay jaan quidam!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Apr 17 11:57:47 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick It is obviously a method of controlling the women



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Apr 17 06:27:34 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Well, the things we accept without question ...

Redshirt Riskiest?

Who would have thought. *g*


WG



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white wings says:
(Mon Apr 17 02:52:43 2017 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]

Happy Easter!




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Apr 17 00:44:38 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
And rounding off Easter is playing my dvd of Hell our High Water



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Apr 16 19:35:04 2017 70.198.46.22) [Edit/Delete]
Happy and hippy hopppy easter!



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Maverick says:
(Sun Apr 16 18:36:17 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]

He is Risen


Happy Easter


Question: What is the last LARGE unfulfilled prophecy of the Old Testament?


Maverick


The Messiah




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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Apr 16 12:39:32 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Sunday, April 16th 2017 C.E.

Happy Easter!

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


ageless#2
buffygirl
LilSlayee
Scourge of Europe
Seraphim

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to ageless#2, buffygirl, Lil'Slayee, Scourge of Europe, Seraphim!



Well, other bands know more than three chords. Your professional bands can play up to six, sometimes seven, completely different chords. Oz, 'Doppelgangland''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Apr 16 11:45:44 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]

Happy Easter!




Happy Birthday Ozlady!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 15 23:05:17 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard You may be right. I remember reading about a rather nasty campaign back in Ye Olden American Days where newspapers ran false stories.

As Much as I OldManFan[/I] cops to disinformation, I don't think he is liable for it!



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Apr 15 21:17:59 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

It probably has its roots in the beginning of history. If we're talking about
disinformation aimed at large numbers of people, then 'disinformation' could
not have started until the printing press. OTOH, one might be able to use town-
criers, local religious leaders, and the like to inform the illiterate.

While there certainly are people and organizations who use disinformation aimed
at particular target groups, many groups are able to disinform themselves.


WG



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OldManFan says:
(Sat Apr 15 20:54:29 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe - it was me... I invented disinformation. It just started out as an April Fool's Day joke, but things got out of hand. Sorry.

OMF



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 15 20:26:54 2017 70.198.52.146) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard

I wonder how disinformation as a
concept got started?



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Apr 15 20:18:37 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Heard today on Steele and Ungar ...

~ Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes? ~

- said by an intelligence community officer about disinformation created by
Russia.


WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Apr 15 14:19:44 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Monday, March 6th 2017 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Kendra
newfan
Ozlady
Prospero
Sentinel

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Kendra, newfan, Ozlady, Prospero, Sentinel!



Let me guess. We're in a hurry. Inara, 'Serenity'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Apr 15 06:03:11 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Never bring a gun to a vampire slaying. *g*


Yay Petrona!

Belated Yay Dirty Socks!

Belated Yay Humvee!


Happy Birthday Glow Boy!

Happy Birthday Sarah!


Belated Happy Birthday Margot Le Faye!

Belated Happy Birthday Nicholas Brendon!

Belated Happy Birthday Kelly Schultz !



Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

If you were tossed into a room with three friends and a vampire (like the first group of potentials was), do you have three friends who wouldn't be totally useless?

Yes


Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question

Which item of Buffy memorabilia, if any, do you use most often (hat, shirt, purse, etc.)?

I do not own any BtVS memorabilia.



Good Night to All

WG



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lostinamerica says:
(Sat Apr 15 03:12:24 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday Glow Boy!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 15 02:58:52 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sat Apr 15 03:01:39 2017
wolfguard I am researching a quote that I think is relevant to the discussion. *g*

Malone: [talking privately in a church] You said you wanted to get Capone. Do you really wanna get him? You see what I'm saying is, what are you prepared to do?

Ness: Anything within the law.

Malone: And *then* what are you prepared to do? If you open the can on these worms you must be prepared to go all the way. Because they're not gonna give up the fight, until one of you is dead.

Ness: I want to get Capone! I don't know how to do it.

Malone: You wanna know how to get Capone? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That's* the *Chicago* way! And that's how you get Capone. Now do you want to do that? Are you ready to do that? I'm offering you a deal. Do you want this deal?

Ness: I have sworn to capture this man with all legal powers at my disposal and I will do so.


Malone: Well, the Lord hates a coward.
[jabs Ness with his hand, and Ness shakes it]

Malone: Do you know what a blood oath is, Mr. Ness?
Ness: Yes.

Malone: Good, 'cause you just took one.

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Maverick says:
(Sat Apr 15 01:09:17 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO: FGM is an attempt to further enslave women, to turn them into breeding stock that is totally controllable by men. That's why the Muslims love it. It removes the woman's sexual organ, the clitoris, so that a woman has an even harder time (if she's able to at all) to achieve orgasm. Their thinking is that sex for a woman is a way to submit to her husband. If she actually enjoyed it, he would run the risk that she would instigate it, and even perhaps without HIM. Thus they remove the organ of sexual enjoyment so the women are free to think of other things. Obviously this is bizarre and grotesque. Note this asks and answers the question: is FGM mandated by Shariah Law? Further note the outright lies concocted by the translator of the Muslim Arabic. The translator 1). claims FGM is not mandatory by Shariah Law, and 2). only the hood of the clitoris is removed in the same manner as the hood of the penis is removed in circumcision. In a truer translation, yes, it IS mandatory, and, no, it's not just the hood that is affected--the entire clitoris IS removed. Further note: Islam has a tradition of "taqiyya" which is a practice of strategic lying to achieve political, etc., aims. The FGM thing is something that Islam should be ashamed of, so they do it anyway but, then, lie about it. When I think about this practice, the song, "How you gonna keep them, down on the farm, after they've seen Paree (Paris)?" Muslims desire to control women with an iron fist. Muslim women just don't know any better. I find it endlessly amusing that Muhammad once related that he was given a glimpse into hell and can you guess the extraordinary circumstance that he witnessed? (Of course he was making this all up, just like the rest of Islam.)


Maverick


Build Me Up, Buttercup




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wolfguard says:
(Sat Apr 15 00:09:24 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Do you have an concrete example for your last line on advocating?

Also, your apparent certainty that the Trump administration will do wrong,
either through incompetence or ill-will, is similar to some other bronzers'
reasoning during the Obama administration. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 14 23:39:17 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I did wind up working today. *g* But I did get all that needed to be done by 2 pm, just in time for the upper management to send everyone home early for Easter weekend.

I'm still feeling wiped and tried to rest my eyes for a few minutes before a board meeting tonight.

I also promised to help a friend box up stuff, as he has to suddently be out of his place by next Tuesday.


wise words from Mr. Crocker. Although I doubt any in the current Administration will heed it.

The trouble with attempted to advocate from a position of strength I that you have to increasingly escalate it for it to have any effect.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 14 23:32:54 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
If only I had something to post. Let's see... here we go.

Ryan Crocker, former American Ambassador to Iraq. Two quotes ...

(1) "In all my time I have learnt two things. Be careful what you get into,
and be at least as careful what you get out of."

(2) Speaking on a common Middle Eastern view, "... compromise is a
concession, a concession is a defeat and defeat is death."


Tomorrow, 15 April, is the birthday of Kim Il Sung, the founder of North
Korea. North Korea likes to do "fireworks" to celebrate it. China is worried
that North Korea and the US might see this a good day to score points and has
been making statements please restrain yourselves. Or as Julie Mason on
The Press Pool put it, ~~ Just get (the hell)along. Enjoy your Easter
weekend.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 14 22:16:07 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO I just post the trivia!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Apr 14 18:23:15 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe "maiden chocolate"? "wearing fine angels"?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Apr 14 17:55:55 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
SUNNYDALE'S EASTER TRIVIA!!

The name Easter derived its name from the Anglo-Saxon goddess Eastre, which symbolizes hare and egg.
Easter always falls between March 22 and April 25.
Easter is however now celebrated (in the words of the Book of Common Prayer) on the first Sunday after the full moon, which happens on, or after March 21, the Spring Equinox.
Since time immemorial, egg has been considered as the symbol of rebirth.

image: http://www.theholidayspot.com/easter/images/easter-eggs-nest.jpg
Easter eggs in nestThe first Easter baskets were designed as such so as to give it anappearance of a bird's nests.
The custom of giving eggs at Easter time has been traced back from Egyptians, Gaul, Persians, Greeks and Romans, to whom the egg was a symbol of life.
During the medieval times, a festival of egg throwing was held in church, during which the priest would throw a hard-boiled egg to one of the choirboys. It would then be tossed from one choirboy to the next and whoever held the egg when the clock struck 12 was surely the winner and will retained the egg.
Americans however celebrated Easter with a large Easter egg hunt on the White House Lawn.
Pysanka is the term used for the practice of Easter egg painting.
The maiden chocolate egg recipes were made in Europe in the nineteenth century.
Each year nearly 90 million chocolate bunnies are made.
Besides Halloween, Easter holiday also paves way for confectionary business to prosper.
When it comes to eating of chocolate bunnies, the ears are preferred to be eaten first by as many as 76% of people.
Easter Bonnets are a throwback to the days when the people denied themselves the pleasure of wearing fine angels for the duration of Lent.
Kids' favorite Easter foodstuff comprises of the Red jellybeans.

Read more at http://www.theholidayspot.com/easter/trivia.htm#L4UhdcSLLBeI8Kmv.99



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 14 17:50:13 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
This constant work at work really needs to stop!

Agent Cooper I'll put some Easter trivia, how about that?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Apr 14 16:55:46 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Will there be Friday Trivia today? If not, I'll be happy to do it.

And let's face it, nobody wants that do they?

Asking for a friend...



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Petrona says:
(Fri Apr 14 16:12:24 2017 108.171.130.162) [Edit/Delete]
notsoShyGirl said it was my Yay Day
so I came by to say hi!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Fri Apr 14 15:27:18 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Petrona!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Apr 14 13:03:09 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe: Stay home today! ....do it for those of us who can't.

:-)

We're having yet another hiring event and the weeks leading up to it are always busy, culminating today in a big rush to get everything ready. So I'll be swamped today. Hope I get out on time, but may not.

Maverick: (Spoiler fonted Political horribleness follows:-] Lois Lerner is finally, finally going to be prosecuted for her crimes. Don't worry though she's totes innocent. You can tell that by the way she's trying to get her entire record at the IRS sealed. Cuz she's totes innocent and has nothing to hide. Yup, nothing to see here.....



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Apr 14 12:59:31 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Friday, April 14th 2017 C.E.

We have EGHT (8) Birthdays!


Angel_Bear
Dr_Faustus
Fangs
Glow Boy
Lilangel
Sarah Michelle Gellar as Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Sir Angelalex242
Velocity Girl

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angel Bear, Dr, Faustus, FAngs, Glow Boy, Lilangel, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Sir Angelalex242, Velocity Girl !



Ouhh! Snacks! The secret to any successful migration! Who's up for some tasty fried meat products!? Anya, 'Spiral''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 14 12:49:46 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay petrona!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Apr 14 12:00:20 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard--The artist had
placed the bull in another
location without a permit. The
city impounded it and because of
the public outcry relocated it to
where it stands today. It stands
on city property and is now
legally allowed to be there.

The placement of the Fearless Girl
statue was legally done in the
first place.

All that being said, because the
Fearless Girl statue changes the
meaning of the Charging Bull
statue, she should be moved.
Surely there is another public
place where the true meaning
behind the work can be better
communicated.


Yay! Petrona!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Apr 14 11:50:32 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick Female genital mutilation is an African custom of pagan origin. So I'm not at all surprised if it's practiced by some Christians and others with such ethnic backgrounds.



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Apr 14 11:18:24 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for petrona!

yay petrona!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 14 03:02:25 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Oh so tempting.

Maybe I can go to Mar-a-lago, it hear it 's pretty popular these days! *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 14 02:33:20 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Apr 14 02:35:36 2017
Christopher Marlowe,

On a Navy warship a person can get into trouble if they become sick and do not
report to sickbay, because they put their shipmates at risk. A contagious
illness can lay a ship low. Same applies to a business. Do the right thing and
stay home. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 14 02:00:54 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard It depends on how I'm feeling in the morning. I dont' tend to come into close contact with my fellow cube-mates. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 14 01:01:28 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

If it's a 'cold' not much you can do but treat the symptoms and lessen stress
factors, i.e. stay home from work (explain to your boss that you do not want to
expose fellow employees to the cold, risking cut in work-force *g*)

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 14 00:49:39 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Blargh....I may be coming down with a cold!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 14 00:34:11 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
"The physicist Alan Sokal once said in an interview, 'Someone, I can't
remember who it was, said that he had a rule of thumb which was that whenever
anyone on the humanities or social sciences cites Heisenberg's uncertainty
principle, that the person should be assumed guilty until proven innocent. I
think that's quite fair.'...
"1

quoted in The Philosopher's Toolkit, Baggini & Fosl, p.197

1 This could be applied to other areas where people either criticize
or try to apply some science principle with respect to applications.


WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Apr 14 00:29:45 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Movies
Question: Name on of the three amigos in the movie Three Amigos.
Answer: what notsoShyGirl said!

Trivia master is self-evident. Trivia funnyman is Maverick!

Agent Cooper I just got a project dumped on me that has to be done TONIGHT! Arghhh!



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Maverick says:
(Thu Apr 13 21:17:39 2017 69.244.158.94) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Apr 13 21:19:48 2017
Trivia Girl: Juan Valdez, Exxon Valdez, and Barry Burrito.


Christopher Marlowe: Local Detroit Doctor charged with Female Genital Mutilation (FGM). This may be the first prosecution of this barbaric practice in the United States, but it won't be the last considering how many Muslims have recently been let into the U.S. This has supposedly been performed on 140,000,000 women in the world. They mention that Christian and Jews ALSO are involved with this, but it is unlikely; as it harms children and certainly is not sanctioned by the religion. This mostly Muslim practice follows along with Honor Killings and marauding bands of young male Rapists roaming around at night and also the Muslim process of grooming young girls for prostitution (being done big-time in England.)


Maverick


Smooth




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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Apr 13 20:12:09 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
Whup is soul crushing!

Lostinamerica: The artist of the Bull sculpture is not too happy about the girl statue either.

SJWs ruin everything. For everybody.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 13 18:40:24 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica,

Is the "Bull" on private property? If so, what does NY state and/or NYC law/regulations have to say about it? If it was illegally placed, then why has the city or state not cite or charged whoever did it?

That aside, the question to me are the various rights, legal-moral-ethical, involved when one artist involves another artist's art in their own work - without permission (or is permission needed here).

Again, what it someone were to put up the hypothetical statue of the boy appearing to ward the girl off as he "defends" her against the threat of the bull? Annoyed much?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 13 17:52:03 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Just when I think I will finally get caught up at work, more work gets dumped on me!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Apr 13 14:48:40 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Lucky Day, Dusty Bottoms and Ned Nederlander



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Apr 13 14:41:51 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Movies
Question: Name on of the three amigos in the movie Three Amigos?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Apr 13 13:17:50 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, April 13th 2017 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Drummerboy
Jessie
Lazarus
TFW

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Drummerboy, Jessie, Lazarus, TFW!



I like books. I just don't want to take on too much. Do they have an introduction to the modern blurb? Buffy, 'The Freshman''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 13 12:54:52 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
yay dachelle!


Happy CD Thursday!

MAverick Well, you write what you know



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Apr 13 12:11:12 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard--Yes, the
placement of the Fearless Girl
statue changes the meaning behind
the Charging Bull statue. The
Charging Bull was put there in
response to the 1987 stock crash
and is meant to symbolize
America's strength. The Fearless
Girl statue was put there to push
for the placement of more women on
boardrooms. It being where it is
makes the bull her adversary,
which is not the original intent
of the sculture.

That being said, the sculpture
didn't have the city's permission
to put the bull there in the first
place, so does he really have an
argument now that his message has
been co-opted?

cc ChristoperMarlowe


Yay! Dirty Socks!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Apr 13 12:05:29 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for dachelle!

yay dachelle!


Happy CD Thursday!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 13 02:12:44 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Your iZombie/BTVS had the graffiti alley. Any relationship?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 13 02:03:49 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I have a friend who is a graffiti artists and just received a Bush Fellowship. He is looking to gain more knowledge about public art, so I asked him his thoughts about it. He started up something called Art Alley, a space where graffiti work prevails. You need a permit to paint a piece in the alley, but there was an incident of someone without a permit spraying over an existing piece.

This seems relevant, so I posed the sculpture question to him.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 13 00:58:18 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I'm not considering it from a legal perspective. I'm wondering how artists
might view how their works can be used by other artists in their works,
especially when suggested meanings or values might be altered.

Since parodies exist and are tolerated or endured this may not be unexplored
territory. OTOH, here spatial proximity and context is being used.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 13 00:01:37 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Apr 13 00:02:11 2017
wolfgaurd That would definitely alter the context of both statues, the bull and the girl and it's no longer individual statues but almost a tableaux. Still not sure what the 'bright line' is regarding this situation. It is more public opinion than a legal matter right now.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Apr 12 23:42:39 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Consider this hypothetical ...

A statue of a boy is placed between "The Fearless Girl" and the Bull. The boy
is facing the Bull. In his right hand he holds a sword which he has pointed at
the Bull. His other arm is stretched out behind him, palm open and facing "The
Fearless Girl".

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Apr 12 23:34:18 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard The artist could have had the girl face in any direction and people could have interpreted it as her looking at something in particular. I'm not sure having the girl face the bull is better or worse from an artistic standpoint.

If someone were to place a statue of a figure that was done in such a way that appeared to be 'attacking' the little girl, then I'm still not sure there are grounds of complaint.

I may have to hit up some artist folks I know.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Apr 12 23:16:36 2017 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
I leave snakes alone ... unless they're yellow, really big, and appear during
an eclipse.


Trivia Girl,

Here's the thing. "The Fearless Girl" is positioned to appear to be staring
down the Wall Street Bull. Why was it positioned so? Was it the intent of the
sculptor? If so, it the sculptor not using someone else's work to enhance their
own?

What if someone were to make and place a statute directed at "The Fearless
Girl" and was seen as offensive because of it? Would "The Fearless Girl"
sculptor have ~much of an argument~?


WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Apr 12 22:20:16 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydales Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What episode did we first see the Hyperion?
Answer: I was going for 'Are You Now', but I defer to the hudgement (ha!) of OldManFan and notsoShyGirl for 'Judgement'!

wolfguard I think the girl should remain. Unless they pass some ordinance that public artwork have to be a certain distance away from each other, the artist who created the bull doesn't have much of an argument.



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Brad says:
(Wed Apr 12 21:15:35 2017 69.9.195.110) [Edit/Delete]
Hi everyone!

I haven't been here in so long,
but the new magazine cover and
20th anniversary stuff has
brought back a lot of memories.

So, question. I asked around on
Facebook and didn't get much
help... so here goes.

Does anyone remember a
Buffy/Angel tribute video from
years ago.

It started out with Buffy/Angel's
exchange in Welcome to the
Hellmouth "Who are you/ let's
just say I'm a friend / Well
maybe I don't want a friend / I
didn't say I was yours" and it
set to Close Your Eyes, or Moment
of Happiness, or both.

Then, the middle of the video was
set to Sarah McLachlan's "Do What
You Have to do" and then the last
part was from "I Will Remember
You" and was set to Live's "I
Wanna Dance with You".

I would do just about anything to
find this video. If anyone could
help me, I greatly appreciate it!



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Comma says:
(Wed Apr 12 21:09:02 2017 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
As strange as it seems, I do not kill snakes, including Rattlers, just to be killing a snake. I will only kill a snake if it is a danger to me or others. In fact, right now, I have a least two snake holes, in my backyard, where Copperheads reside. Unless they become a real threat I will not eliminate them. I have the same policy with Gators down in Southern Alabama. Spiders do not get that same treatment. Spiders die on sight!

Comma



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Apr 12 19:34:56 2017 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Yes; I was fishing for tips for casts form other TV shows to brign through dimensional rifts into the Ice Age Buffy setting and you suggested *Wagon Train* and *Rawhide* because you thought those might help provide a large enough population for the settlement to survive.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Apr 12 18:20:08 2017 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Artist wants statue removed (BBC Online)

Comments or positions?



DaddyCatALSO,

I suggested "Wagon Train" to you?


White Wings,

A friend once told me of hunting (poaching?) in the Everglades back when he was a teen. One time, he and couple friends were walking single-file down a path and had to step over a small log. After they had all done so, they all stopped and looked back. "Was that a log?" It was not. It was part of a rattlesnake, the tail and head hidden in the brush on both sides. My friend fired his .22 where he estimated the head might be. A bit(e) off - cause the head popped up a couple feet further on "He raised his head three feet off the ground!!!!"(Uh-huh *g*).

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Apr 12 18:05:07 2017 199.168.151.175) [Edit/Delete]
White Wings: I don't like your snake stories! :-)

I don't love snakes either, but they just don't skeeve me out the way bugs do. There are lots of snakes in Panama and many of them are poisonous- but oddly enough I rarely saw one. But I saw LOTS of bugs. *wiggins*



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OldManFan says:
(Wed Apr 12 17:18:43 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Apr 12 17:19:18 2017
Trivia Girl - we first get a glimpse of the lobby in Judgment - S2, E1.

OMF



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Apr 12 16:48:41 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Mid-morning check-in. The day is going quite well. Far less crazy than yesterday.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Apr 12 14:45:24 2017 96.87.54.73) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
In "Judgment", the first episode of season two



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Apr 12 14:30:17 2017 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydales Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What episode did we first see the Hyperion



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Apr 12 13:09:44 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Wednesday, April 12th 2017 C.E.

We have TEN (10) Birthdays!


Babs
Beldaran
Big_Red
BuffFrog
Cleio
Kelly Schultz as Xander's double
Margot Le Faye
Tidorg
Nicholas Brendon as Xander Harris
uslayme

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Babs, Beldaran, Big Red, BuffFrog, Cleio, Kelly Schultz, Nicholas Brendon, Margot Le Faye, Tidorg, uslayme!



Spike: We got a history, him and me. Fred: What? Spike: It was a long time ago. He was a young Watcher, fresh out of the academy when we crossed paths. It was a, what-you-call battle of wills and blood was spilled. Vendettas were sworn. It was a whole-- Fred: My God you're so full of crap. Spike: Yeah. Okay.'Unleashed'' '''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Apr 12 12:56:08 2017 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for dirty socks!

yay dirty socks!

todays deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale self-defense seminar - the stake is a very under utilized weapon

if you were tossed into a room with three friends and a vampire (like the first group of potentials was), do you have three friends who wouldn't be totally useless?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Apr 12 12:52:40 2017 209.159.254.195) [Edit/Delete]
Good morning beta!



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Apr 12 12:04:08 2017 73.58.129.225) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick--LOL, Men With
Brooms
, great title :)


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