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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon May 15 16:21:18 2017 205.141.67.16)
mid-morning check in. Boring day so far.

Agent Cooper You a fan of the Beatles?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon May 15 14:57:06 2017 165.225.38.83)
Trivia Girl: Happiness is a Warm Gun



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OldManFan says:
(Mon May 15 14:47:05 2017 24.3.106.169)
Trivia Girl - Revolution #9

OMF



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon May 15 14:41:36 2017 205.141.67.16)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Music
Question: What Beatles song includes the line "El Dorado....take this brother, may it serve you well"?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon May 15 13:09:53 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Monday, March 15th 2017 C.E.

We have TWO(2) Birthdays!


elusio
Lisap515

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to elusio, Lisap515!



Jayne: That's a good idea. Good idea. Tell us where the stuff's at so I can shoot you. Mal: Point of interest? Offering to shoot us might not work so well as an incentive as you might imagine. 'Out Of Gas'

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YayoftheDay says:
(Mon May 15 12:32:43 2017 209.159.254.195)
lets hear a great big bronze cheer for wulfgar!

yay wulfgar!

goodbye blue Monday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon May 15 02:28:35 2017 209.159.254.195)
Comma[b/] Yep, those snails just whizzed by, didn't they?



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Comma says:
(Mon May 15 00:56:58 2017 75.143.154.113)
We are so slow today that two snails passed us.

CC



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun May 14 23:24:10 2017 209.159.254.195)
a slow day and probably a slow night as well!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun May 14 18:07:18 2017 209.159.254.195)
abt I like Capaldi too! Too bad that we only get him this season. I understand his last episode is the Christmas one. I haven't heard who the new Doctor will be.



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abt says:
(Sun May 14 15:25:31 2017 84.9.76.45)
ChristopherMarlowe - watching Doctor Who, I like Capaldi.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun May 14 14:36:20 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Sunday, May 14th 2017 C.E.
Happy Mother's Day!

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Austin154
CHRIS
EviLS I T
pink fish rool!!!!
Sasheer
Snackdog

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Austin154, CHRIS, EviLS IT, pink fish rool, Sasheer, Snackdog, turtle!



Buffy: How bored were you last year? Giles: I watched 'Passions' with Spike. Let us never speak of it. 'Real Me''

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wolfguard says:
(Sun May 14 08:21:40 2017 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Sun May 14 16:58:56 2017
Late Night Drive-By


Belated Yay Paksenarrion!

Belated Yay KAM!

Belated Yay Dust'em!


Belated Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question


What kind of tattoo do you think members of the Fang Gang have?

I do not recall specifics, but I do know the sum was greater than the parts. Specifically, there's a specific set of moves in the game "Twister" which, when played by the Fang Gang with the characters' turns based on the sequence in the main title credits, creates a composite tattoo1 that contains prophetic secrets for the Fang Gang. This would have been revealed in 6.10 - had there been a sixth season. It's true. :)

(ETA I've just thought of a flaw in this idea. Probably a reason there was not sixth season. *g*)

1 When viewed from a specific position ("How Fred Revealed Magick and Angel Took A Position on Trig", act 2, The Sirens of Sphericity, 6.11)
Related ...

The Maltese Gryphon (The story behind Angel's tattoo)



Night All

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun May 14 03:11:21 2017 209.159.254.195)
down doobie doo down down..



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat May 13 23:54:53 2017 70.198.60.138)
Anyone up for Parcheesi on a
Saturday night?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat May 13 21:20:46 2017 70.198.60.138)
Oof spend a good chunk of the day at
habitat for humanity build site. I
am SORE!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat May 13 13:15:40 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Friday, May 13th 2017 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Arielle
babyvamp2
htaurus
newt
shadowmom

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Arielle, babyvamp2, htaurus, newt, shadowmom!



We're deep in space, corner of No and Where. Mal, 'Objects In Space'

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wolfguard says:
(Sat May 13 03:50:03 2017 4.28.180.2)
Drive-By

Christopher Marlowe,

I was. Back in a bit.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat May 13 02:17:04 2017 70.198.33.77)
Wolfguard

Are you hereabouts



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 12 23:12:28 2017 209.159.254.195)
Agent Cooper Nope...dinner
was her birthday, and I gave her
clothes and a mother's day card as a
gift.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 12 22:16:36 2017 209.159.254.195)
home early!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 12 20:25:11 2017 4.28.180.2)
Agent Cooper,

We'll just have to see if the President tweets that TIME better not
have recorded the interview, eh?

I've seen this behavior in others. They have strong opinions and are quick to
apply them to situations they really don't understand. He'll find a way to
cover his mistake, such as, "After I explained the facts to the Secretary of
Navy he looked in to it, make some good decisions and now we'll get an EM
launcher that actually works - and be millions of dollars cheaper."

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri May 12 19:57:56 2017 165.225.38.83)
Wolfguard: Meh. Sounds like a cheap, barely true hit piece to me. The second (or really third hand) source is Time magazine, which pretty much invalidates the whole tale completely for me.

Chris Marlowe: So is mom going to double dip and get another free dinner on Sunday? :-)

Maverick: Yeah, that's what I was saying about Coulter. She makes good points and then once in a while goes off on these weird theories. Hey, I dunno, maybe she's right even though she sounds crazy sometimes, like that guy in the Mel Gibson movie. Who knows? *shrug*



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 12 18:22:44 2017 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Fri May 12 18:24:18 2017
I've long had a subscription to Proceedings which is the monthly magazine of the US Naval Institute. Subscribing also gets one a daily newsletter which usually has three or four articles. From today's newsletter ....

UPDATED: President Trump Wants Gerald Ford Carriers to Use "Goddamned Steam" Catapults Instead of "No Good" Electromagnetic Launchers


"President Donald Trump wants the new Gerald Ford-class aircraft carriers to use older steam catapults to launch aircraft rather than the new electromagnetic launch system that the Navy has been developing for more than a decade...

'It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And its very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out,' Trump said, according to the published interview.

'And I said and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said, what system are you going to be ''Sir, were staying with digital.' I said, no you're not. [You're] going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and its no good.'...

...the Navy news desk declined to provide a comment on Trumps interview. Acting Navy Secretary Sean Stackley told USNI News Thursday afternoon that he would not comment on the presidents remarks themselves, but he added, we have not briefed the president on the Ford program. He did go down to Newport News and visited the ship, was onboard the ship. And so I wasn't present for that visit, I don't know what his source of information was...

Newsletter Article


I shake my head in wonder.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 12 18:06:24 2017 205.141.67.16)
A lazy, hazy day so far at work.

Agent Cooper Yep, very convenient! Twin Peaks premieres soon!



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Maverick says:
(Fri May 12 15:40:39 2017 69.244.158.94)

Yay, paksenarrion, Yay!


paksenarrion is Maverick Fanfic Recommender #55, in good standing.


Agent Cooper, DaddyCatALSO: Well, full disclosure, I also think Coulter is adorable. In her book, "Treason" she cites the Venona Cables which were decrypted messages from agents of the Soviet government (from here and from there) during the Cold War showing that Senator Joseph McCarthy, contrary to the smears of the left, was onto many of the hidden Communist spies in the U.S. government of the time. BTW, Yes!, one of my big heroes of science, is Dr. Hugh Ross who is a PhD astrophysicist, who is also an advocate of Christianity. He, for years, has run a site (part of a ministry) Reasons to Believe, which features the compatibility of Christianity and science. He also writes books like Improbable Planet which show the many, many ways in the fine-tuning of the universe for life, that our planet earth is the Goldilocks planet, just right for us, and how scientifically improbable this might be.


Maverick


Reflections of My Life




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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri May 12 13:22:01 2017 165.225.38.83)
Wolfguard/Chris Marlowe: Animals follow the food. Maybe the sharks come around every summer for the swimmers. I'm thinking about my sea monkeys here. :-)


Chris Marlowe: So your mom kinda gets to celebrate her birthday and mother's day all in the same week. Nice!

Maverick: Well, like I said. I've heard and read a good amount of Ann Coulter. Sometimes she makes sense and sometimes not so much. YMMV :-)

Maverick/Daddycat: You know, I just don't get this idea that science and Christianity are mutually exclusive somehow. I've never understood that angle at all. It's just silly to me.

Plenty of scientists, including some very famous ones, are christians and lots of christians are very interested in science, and I don't see where the conflict is.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri May 12 13:17:24 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Friday, March 12th 2017 C.E.

We have TWELVE (12) Birthdays!


AleXander
BlackMagicBitsy
DaLilBit ===] look
Dark Reflection
Denise
Harlequin
JULES the Younger
Lauz
Lindsay Ann Crouse as Professor Walsh
Lupe
satinethesparklingdiamond
Slayerette-in-Training

Happy Birthday from the Bronze to AleXander, BlackMagicBitsy, DaLilBit, Dark Reflection, Denise, Harlequin, JULES the Younger, Lauz, Lindsay Ann Crouse, Lupe, satinethesparklingdiamond, Slayerette-in-Training!



Willow: It feels like we're going around in circles. Xander: Our circles are going around in circles. We got dizzy circles here. 'Shadow'

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YayoftheDay says:
(Fri May 12 12:41:02 2017 209.159.254.195)
lets hear a great big bronze cheer for paksenarrion!

yay paksenarrion!

thank joss it's Friday!



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werewolf123 says:
(Fri May 12 04:51:44 2017 68.12.72.107)
ChristopherMarlowe: Its been found that the downdraft of a helicopter can cause sharks in the area to attack.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 12 02:34:57 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Sharks are attracted to movement associated with prey, especially if the
movement suggest the prey is hampered in someway. Human swimmers' movements
are not those of fish or sea mammals so it may be possible sharks might be
able to distinguish between fish and human. OTOH, it may be human swimming
movements may be perceived as not fish and if so, then how might a shark
respond? If they are really hungry and there are no fish around, then
perhaps the shark checks out the usual sound. If there are fish around, then
perhaps the unusual sound is ignored. Or perhaps the shark has just fed and
is curious - of course how does a curious shark test new stuff? Take a look.
Give a nudge. Take a nip.

Different shark species often have different hunting methods. Great Whites
often cruise some distance below the surface looking up to see possible prey
silhouetted by the light of the sky. When they see a seal they shoot up like
a missile, hitting from below. Humans on surfboards, arms and feet dangling
off, look something like deformed seals. Easy hunting.


Quiz Question: Not British. Not WWI


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 12 01:53:50 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard Aren't sharks attracted by movement?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 12 01:08:57 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard An American to a British soldier? World War I?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 12 00:42:13 2017 209.159.254.195)
Back home! Mom got there 15 minutes before I did!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 12 00:12:22 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

OK

*g*


To any lurkers ...

... Defective equipment is pushed aside with no attempt at repairs. Where
are the horses? Can fuel be so plentiful that there is no need for horses? If
that is so, our war is lost.


A soldier said this to another soldier. What nationality? What war?


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 11 23:24:50 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard I will be offline for a bit...I'm taking mom out for dinner on her birthday! I should be back about an hour and a half from now.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu May 11 22:56:24 2017 209.159.254.195)
Sunnydales Trivial Pursuit

Category: Pop Culture
Question: Who was the first to sell sea monkeys in comic books?
Answer: Braunhut

Trivia 500 pound gorilla: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Chimps: Agent Cooper, Maverick!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 11 20:37:36 2017 4.28.180.2)
Agent Cooper,

Sea Monkey story, LOL

Supernatural soldiers onward. I think it's in 12th season (?).

Semi-related, I've been told iZombie has been picked up for a 4th
season.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 11 20:32:28 2017 4.28.180.2)
We need a bigger boat...

LONG BEACH, Calif. You are paddleboarding next to approximately 15 great
white sharks, is not something you want to hear when youre enjoying a day at
the beach.

But thats what beachgoers in California heard broadcast from a helicopter
loudspeaker as they paddleboarded in the waters off Capistrano Beach in Orange
County on Wednesday.

Lifeguards are advising that you exit the water in a calm manner. The sharks
are as close as the surfline,


Believe I pulled this off a FOX affiliate in Long Beach (Channel 31??)

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 11 20:06:48 2017 205.141.67.16)
Agent Cooper I remember the sea monkeys too. I think my brother got some through the mail, but I don't think they survived for long. I was surprised to learn that they were specifically engineered for the purpose of selling to kids.



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Maverick says:
(Thu May 11 18:33:32 2017 69.244.158.94)
Trivia Girl: Tarzan's buddy Cheetah.


Agent Cooper: Well, it's amazing how Coulter comes up with so many examples of "liberals" saying ridiculous things. It must now be more user-friendly. If you read "Godless" you will, no doubt, be tempted to reestablish your account. Do you have any memory of what it cost? Do you feel, as I do, that we've had this conversation before. BTW, I've gone to their site and although I could not determine (quickly) what it costs (I am always suspicious of services, etc., that hide their costs) noted they DO give FREE trials (like maybe one week.) Maybe if you discover it now IS user-friendly you will be inspired to other possibilities. BTW, did you research "guerilla marketing"? Some of those suggestions are pretty powerful (for being able to advertise without paying.)


DaddyCatALSO: Let's say you bought a used car and parked it in front of your house and it disappeared. It would be obvious that it was stolen, correct? One looks at the facts? How about if someone had a surveillance camera trained on your street and you were able to get hold of a tape of the night your car was stolen. You see a truck pull up behind your car and some people get out and monkey with your car and tow it away. Still stolen? What if you can see the decal on the side of their truck which says the word "repo." What if, then, you actually research this matter and find your car had been stolen from someone else and then sold to you. Still obvious? What IS obvious, to me, is that evolution "theory" and the cosmological multiverse "theory" are both obvious attempts, with extremely scant evidence, to rule God out of the picture. In cosmology this universe we live in is "fine-tuned" for our existence. I've seen lists of metrics of our universe that each, if tweaked even a fraction, would not allow life (us) to be able to exist. Our universe simply contains (with institutional stability) what is necessary to convince each of us that we are facing "moral" dilemmas and making "moral" decisions and learning "moral" lessons. Unless you are sedated you can sense that there is a "mind" behind all science, that we are merely trying to determine the reasoning behind scientific laws of nature. Look at the "facts"? The proof? When I was a young student I was fooled by the evolutionary "proof" of my day, the Ernst Haeckel drawings. These drawing were in my science textbook in Junior High or High School (they still may appear in yours, despite the fact they were discredited in the late 1990's) because they do not have any better "proof" for evolution. Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny--that was the catch-phrase we were taught. It was just another hoax. Search Results. Well, I won't be fooled again. I know what "proof" means and I know what the scientific method IS; however no one I talk to anymore seems to know anything about these things.


Maverick


She Blinded Me With Science




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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu May 11 15:35:53 2017 165.225.38.83)
Trivia Girl: I have no idea, but I actually bought some of those sea monkeys from a comic when I was a kid.

And they worked! I kept them in an old jar and watched as they hatched and got bigger. We always kept aquariums when I was growing up and when they got to a certain size and ran out of the food that came in the envelope I decided they might like to live in the aquarium with our fish. So one day I dumped them in and watched excitedly to see how they'd like their new home.

Boy, our fish never had such a feast! They all rushed to the top at once to snap up some nice sea monkey treats. Those poor sea monkeys (which I learned later are basically some species of shrimp) never had a chance. They were all gone seconds, gobbled up by our happy fish.

My dad laughed so hard at that. It's one of the funniest things I remember as a kid.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu May 11 15:30:31 2017 76.120.26.241)
Trivia GirlHarold von Braunhut, who also invented X-ray Spex



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu May 11 14:49:36 2017 205.141.67.16)
Sunnydales Trivial Pursuit

Category: Pop Culture
Question: Who was the first to sell sea monkeys in comic books?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu May 11 13:15:27 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Thursday, May 11th 2017 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


AngelRachel
AngelicSlayer23
Buff'low
Captian Hook
Eeyore
Kyle
riley-o

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to AngelRachel, AngelicSlayer23, Buff'low, Captain Hook, Eeyore, Kyle, riley-o!



Angel: Just admit it: you think you're gonna ride in, save the day, and sweep Buffy off her--Spike: Like you're not thinking the same thing. Angel: I'm already seeing somebody. Spike: What, dog girl? 'The Girl in Question'

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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu May 11 13:15:08 2017 165.225.38.83)
Chris Marlowe: You've still got that bug? Yuck! It can't last too much longer. Feel better!

Wolfguard: Remember when WB had 3 or 4 shows dealing with the paranormal running at one time? I remember people on the Bronze jokingly calling it the "Wiccan Broadcasting Network." There was Buffy, Charmed, Sabrina and Supernatural all airing around the same time period on WB.

Maverick: I used to have a Lexus Nexus account back when I had this crazy idea of becoming a paralegal and took a (exactly one) class for it. Lexus is neat but I remember it not being all that user friendly, and kind of clunky-- but then this was several years ago and I bet it's been streamlined since then.

I also used to have a Linked In account. Linked In is actually very handy for business, and you'd be surprised how much you can find out about people and their company by what info they post there.

I had that Linked In membership right up until I stumbled upon the page of one of the worst enemies I ever had in this world and searched his page. ...And then instantly realized I did NOT have private search turned on, meaning he would know I was there and see MY page. I wiped my account about 14 seconds after that.



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YayoftheDay says:
(Thu May 11 12:57:20 2017 209.159.254.195)
lets hear a great big bronze cheer for kam!

yay kam!

happy cd Thursday!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu May 11 11:53:38 2017 199.127.148.10)
Maverick It's not my job to educate apparently literate people. Evolution is obvious once anyone looks at the facts.



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Maverick says:
(Thu May 11 06:39:01 2017 69.244.158.94)
DaddyCatALSO: You always seem to make a comment whereby you contradict something someone else has said (like me for instance) BUT your comment has no basis. It's like you're saying "you're wrong about that" and then, if you give a reason, it's usually factually wrong. In this case, Coulter's discussion of evolution is from page 199 to page 245 of a 281 page book. That's 66 pages, far less than 1/2 of the book (less than 1/4th.) AND, yes, she DOES criticize "evolution," as well she should. The "hypothesis" of evolution, as proposed by Darwin (as I've said before, even when valMichael and I used to discuss it), is like 1/10th of a theory. All there is, that seems to point towards a "follow the dots" understanding of how life (and we, more specifically) have come about is A DIRECTION (from less complex to more complex) but HOW this additional complexity has occurred and now exists is not understood. When I took Biology the instructor was always looking for the "mechanism" of how things were assembled. As Coulter says "survival of the fittest" is a tautology (defined by repeating the premise.) As she writes: "The second prong of Darwin's "theory" is generally nothing but a circular statement: Through the process of natural selection, the "fittest" survive. Who are the "fittest"? The ones who survive! Why look--it happens every time!" So, the mechanism of random mutations producing attributes and useful ones being kept and harmful ones discarded (as the organism dies) needs to be demonstrated and neither the fossil records and our alert eyes have not witnessed these half-way evolved species heading towards another species. It's just every bit as much "belief" and wishful thinking as religious fanatics exhibit. No mechanism, no proof.


Agent Cooper: Well, for a while Christie was this free-wheeling articulate guy who could handle the Press and spoke the unvarnished truth. Then suddenly he became the guy who was governor when his state underwent a horrible snowstorm which made him dependent on federal largess and he hugged Obama on the beach and sucked up for a little federal aid whereas his underlings perpetrated some kind of bridge exit close-down as retaliation against a local mayor for a political slight. Christie almost immediately lost his mojo; Coulter jumped ship when Christie began flailing about ineffectively. Tell the truth, though, before Trump took charge of the Primary, NONE of the candidates could have beaten Hillary. We were ALL hoping for a leader. Take my word for it; a reading of "Godless" will allow you to be able to formulate your own personal attitudes and crystallize your understanding of some of the bizarre obsessions of the left. Coulter has a trick to her writings; she subscribes to Lexus/Nexus and can pull up quotes and articles which is kind of like a super search feature which puts quotes based on your sort option. It's a service which attorneys (like Coulter) use to construct legal arguments.


R.I.P. Michael Parks


Maverick


Young Hearts, Run Free




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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 11 03:54:15 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Excerpts from "Endgames" by Evan Osnos in May 2017 issue of The New
Yorker
.


Political scientist, James P. Pfiffner, "...compared the White House crises
that confronted Nixon, Reagan, and Clinton ... in each case ... the
President could not 'admit to himself that he had done anything wrong.'
Nixon convinced himself that his enemies were doing the same things he was;
Reagan dismissed the trading of arms for hostages as the cost of
establishing relations with Iran; Clinton insisted that he was technically
telling the truth..."


William Antholis, another political scientist ...

"...the President that Trump most reminds him of is not Nixon or Clinton but
Jimmy Carter, another outsider who vowed to remake Washington ... he
(Carter) couldn't find a way to work with his own party ... It was 'I alone
can fix this'"


"...Law and history make clear that Trump's most urgent risk is not getting
ousted; it is getting hobbled by unpopularity and distrust ...

...Trump will simply limp through a single term, incapacitated by
opposition..."



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 11 03:52:37 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard I feel a visit to the bookstore is warranted, I need to get a copy of the New Yorker.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 11 03:41:07 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Excerpts from "Endgames" by Evan Osnos in May 2017 issue of The New
Yorker
.


"..Nixon's downfall, which came about because of two critical mistakes ...

First, when the scandal emerged, the President underestimated the threat ...
'They could have cleaned house and fired people.' But Nixon assumed his
supporters would never believe the accusations...

...As the scandal ground on, Nixon made his second mistake: the flouted the
authority of a coequal branch of government. In October, 1973, Nixon refused
to obey a federal-appellate-court ruling that ordered him to turn over tapes
of conversations in the Oval Office, and he forced out the investigation's
special prosecutor, Archibald Cox..." (Nixon would resign in August of
1974).


"...A quarter century later, the Bill Clinton impeachment yielded two
related lessons - one about the path into the crisis and one about the path
out of it. The first lesson was that investigations beget investigations...

...The second lesson ... comes from the strategy adopted by his legal team.
Learning from Nixon's fate, the lawyers realized that congressional
Democrats would abandon Clinton if they concluded that he had lost the trust
of the public ... 'The fundamental point is that it's a political process.'
... maintaing the support from fellow-Democrats and from the public ... The
strategy succeeded. By the time the House impeached Clinton ... his approval
rating had risen to more than seventy per cent - his highest ever ...

... the Clinton impeachment may contain an even larger warning for Democrats
in pursuit of Trump. 'It's pretty important to be seen in sorrow rather than
anger,' Stewart, the historian of impeachment, said. 'Don't emerge red in
tooth and claw. That's not merely tactical - it's good for the country,
because you should only pursue impeachment if you really have to'...."


In the end, what might happen to Trump? Next up.



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 11 03:25:20 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Excerpts from "Endgames" by Evan Osnos in May 2017 issue of The New
Yorker
.


"On June 2, 1787, while the delegates to the Constitutional Convention, in
Philadelphia, were still arguing whether the Presidency should consist of a
committee or a single person, they adopted, without debate, the right to
impeach for 'malpractice or neglect of duty.' They gave the House of
Representatives the power to impeach a President for 'treason, bribery or
other high Crimes and Misdemeanors' by a simple majority vote, and they gave
the Senate the power to convict or dismiss the charges, setting a higher bar
for conviction, with a two-thirds majority..."

What are these listed crimes in practice?

"...Representative Gerald Ford argued that an impeachable offense was
'whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a
given moment in history.' That was an overstatement - the President was
never intended to serve at the pleasure of Congress - but it contained an
essential truth: impeachment is possible even without a specific violation
of the U.S. Criminal Code. When Alexander Hamilton wrote of 'high Crimes,'
he was referring to the violation of 'public trust', by abusing power,
breaching ethics, or undermining the Constitution..."

"David O. Stewart, author of 'Impeached' ... told me (in reference to the
first impeachment of a president, Andrew Johnson in 1868) ... established a
crucial point: impeachment is not a judicial proceeding but a tool of
political accountability. 'Because of the unique powers of the executive, we
are depending on a single person to be wise and sane ... If, in fact, there
are enough people who no longer think those are both true, impeachment is
designed to deal with that..."

Michael J. Gerhardt, professor of constitutional law at the University of
North Carolina ...

"The most important thing is political popularity ... A popular President is
unlikely to be threaten with impeachment. Second is your relationship with
your party - how strongly are they connected to you? Third is your
relationship with Congress, and foruth is the nature of whatever the
misconduct may be'..."


Historical lessons next post.



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 11 03:11:15 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Emotion rules. There's actually a recent book out arguing that point with
respect to politics. I believe it's titled, ~ Second that Emotion ~.

Impeachment excerpts up in a few minutes.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 11 03:00:48 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard I kind of worry about everyone's mental state these days...



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 11 00:52:21 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

After reporting on the "Goldwater Rule" the article continues ...

"Professional associations for psychologists, social workers, and others
followed suit. With regard to Trump, however, the rule has been broken
repeatedly. More than fifty thousand mental-health professionals have signed
a petition stating that Trump is 'too seriously mentally ill to perform the
duties of president and should be removed" under the Twenty-fifth
Amendment."

I read that in light of listening to Dr Daniel Amen's TED talk on brain
scans and listening to several video lectures on medical exams. I think
their emotions are overriding their judgments. It's also possible some of
them see a way to restrain or contain Trump through use of their mental
health credentials. I tend to believe they are just scared and angry and
turning to the tools they know.1

Another excerpt ...

"...Lawrence C. Mohr, who became a White House physician in 1987 and
remained in the job until 1993, came to believe that Presidential disability
must be understood to encompass 'very subtle manifestations' that might
impair the President's capacity to do the job. A President should be
evaluated for 'alertness, cognitive function, judgment, appropriate
behavior, and the ability to communicate ... If any of these are impaired,
it is my opinion that the powers of the President should be transferred to
the Vice-President until the impairment resolves'..."

"...In practice, however, unless the President were unconscious, the public
could see the use of the amendment as a constitutional coup..."


1 Amen is a psychiatrist who began his health career in the Army,
first as a medic and then as an X-ray technician. In his TED talk he said
psychiatrists are the only specialists who, in general, don't look at the
organ they treat. He and his colleagues have collected 83,000 brain scans.
He showed scans of different brain injuries and illnesses, each compared
with a normal brain scan. HUGE differences *g*. As I understood him,
psychiatrists who treat the observable symptoms without first examining the
brain were making a major error. And yet with respect to Trump, some mental
health professionals are dialing-in their diagnosis.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 11 00:14:42 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard I hadn't heard of the Goldwater Rule, but it makes sense. Diagnosis from a distance, by any professional, Medical or otherwise, is a tricky business.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 10 23:31:24 2017 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Thu May 11 01:38:30 2017
Christopher Marlowe,

The current issue of The New Yorker has a comprehensive article on
how a US president might be legally removed from office before the end of
their term. 1 It's a long article, ~ 12 pages of three columns
each. The focus is on President Trump, though it looks at other presidents.

The two main, perhaps only, ways of doing it is through impeachment and
exercising the 25th Amendment. A few excerpts ...

"...A study by psychiatrists at Duke University, published in the Journal
of Nervous and Mental Disease
, in 2006, made a striking assertion: about
half the Presidents they studied had suffered a mental illness at one time
or another... at some point in their lives." (they examined 37 presidents,
Washington to Nixon)

"...Ten Presidents ... had symptoms 'evident during presidential office,
which in most cases probably impaired job performance..."

"...Just before Franklin Pierce took office, in 1853, his son died in a
train accident, and Pierce's Presidency was marked by the 'dead weight of
hopeless sorrow,' ... Morose and often drunk, Pierce proved unable to defuse
the tensions that precipitated the Civil War..."

During the 1964 president elections, more than a thousand psychiatrists,
when asked by Fact magazine, said Barry Goldwater, the Republican
candidate, was mentally unfit to be president. Goldwater sued for libel -
and won. In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association "...added to its code
of ethics the so-called 'Goldwater Rule' which forbade making a diagnosis
without an in-person examination and without receiving permission to discuss
the findings publically..."

The article continues noting many mental health professionals are not
respecting that provision of the code with respect to Trump. As one said,
"We fear that too much is at stake to be silent any longer." (Lance Dodes,
retired assistant clinical professor of psychiatry)

More on impeachment in a bit.


1 "Endgames" by Evan Osnos



WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed May 10 23:19:05 2017 209.159.254.195)
Sunnydales Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who or what cast the spell so that there was no violence in Caritas?
Answer: The Furies

Trivia Fast and Furious: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Stalled: ?Agent Cooper, wolfguard



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 10 22:50:13 2017 209.159.254.195)
stupid sinus infection...



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 10 21:09:46 2017 4.28.180.2)
Agent Cooper,

The rumors and reports were than actresses Shannen Doherty and Alyssa Milano
were having a difficult time working together. Ms Doherty did not return for
season 4, Ms Milano did.

Alyssa Milano played Phoebe. Shannen Doherty played Prue.

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed May 10 20:28:00 2017 165.225.38.83)
Deadguy Angel Question:

I bet Cordy would have a cross. Probably around the neck area. Maybe more than one. Growing up in Sunnydale would lead one to become a bit pragmatic and not prone to take any chances.

Wesley would have the words to some ancient spell tatooed someplace where he could read it, as a backup if he were in a jam without weapons or gear.

Gunn might have some old gang tats from his youth. Or maybe he'd have a trophy count for how many vamps he's killed, like rows of little stakes up his arm or something.

Fred would have mathematical figures tatted on that had some esoteric significance known only to her.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed May 10 19:19:33 2017 199.127.148.10)
Deadguy Memorial Quod; well we've already seen Cordy has the same tats Charisma does; a rayed sun as a tramps tamp and a Catholic Rosary on her left wrist :-).

Maverick I saw *some* of the points in t he earlier, more political chapters, but almost half the book is kindergarten-dropout level attacks on evolution.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed May 10 18:50:06 2017 165.225.38.83)
Which one was Phoebe, anyway? Was she the nice actress or the mean actress?



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 10 18:05:49 2017 71.56.125.67)
Trivia Girl,

The name slips me, but the person was a political partisan, yes? No. Oh! Phoebe Halliwell ? Wrong show.


Tinkerbell!



WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed May 10 16:40:09 2017 165.225.38.83)
Trivia Girl: Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed May 10 15:03:53 2017 76.120.26.241)
Trivia Girl
The Furies



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed May 10 15:02:05 2017 165.225.38.83)
Maverick: I have mixed feelings about Coulter. Some issues I think she's right on about and then again sometimes I think she wanders off into crazy town about other stuff.

Like, remember during the election when she thought Chris Christie was God's own gift to politics? She was a big Christie supporter and wasn't shy about telling anybody this. Over and over. I mean, seriously. Christie?

On the other hand she DID predict very early on that Trump would win, back when that idea seemed ridiculous.

So there's that.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed May 10 15:01:24 2017 205.141.67.16)
Sunnydales Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who or what cast the spell so that there was no violence in Caritas?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed May 10 13:13:42 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Wednesday, March 10th 2017 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Dalia
The Hunny
Quaint Little Shop Girl

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Dalia, The Hunny, Quaint Little Shop Girl!



Well, look who just popped open a fresh can of venom. Xander, 'Choices'

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YayoftheDay says:
(Wed May 10 12:33:34 2017 209.159.254.195)
lets hear a great big bronze cheer for Dust'em!

yay dust'em!

deadguy memorial angel question brought to you by LA Ink, now specializing in tattooed fangs!

What kind of tattoo do you think members of the Fang Gang have?

happy non-angel Wednesday!



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Maverick says:
(Wed May 10 06:30:51 2017 69.244.158.94)
Christopher Marlowe: Comey allowed the FBI to become very political during his tenure. Even Clinton recently blamed Comey for her loss. Here's another link you won't take. 10 Major FBI Scandals on Comey's Watch. Most of these involve Muslim attacks on the U.S. wherein the FBI interviewed the attacker before the attack and then dropped the ball. The other thing that disappointed a lot of people was that Clinton was let off the hook for compromising national security (because of the way she handled her e-mails) for supposedly her "lack of intent" when there was no wiggle-room for intent in the Statute (AND her intent was clearly to circumvent the security monitoring of the State Department's normal e-mail set-up.) Also, the FBI will not investigate its own "leaks."


Agent Cooper: I have been reading "Godless" by Ann Coulter and I recommend it to anyone who wants to understand the politics of the Left. Also, it's hilarious. She's so smart (which is why they keep trying to stop her from speaking at Berkley.)


Maverick


Incense and Peppermint




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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 10 05:30:31 2017 71.56.125.67)
Yay Motorcycle Au Pair Boy!



Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question


Which Scooby Gang member had the most fabulous wardrobe?

Cordelia



Night All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 10 03:52:31 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

"Everyone"]? *g* How do Trump's supporters explain his decision to fire Comey?
Isn't there an official statement or the like?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 10 03:12:17 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard I'm trying not to be cynical or jump to conclusions on Trump's motivations for firing someone, despite what everyone is saying.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 10 02:19:05 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Neither the left nor the right have been objectively judging Comey. Rather they
have taken turns applauding and criticizing him depending on how his actions
have advanced their interests.

"Questionable"? Pfft. The left cannot honestly say they have questions about
Comey being fired. They already 'know' why he was fired - he was pressing the
investigation into Trump's assumed covert dealings with Russia, so Trump rid
himself of Comey.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 10 00:55:00 2017 209.159.254.195)
Maverick Thanks for the reminder!

wolfguard I've heard others say the same. While it seems many wanted him gone some time ago, the timing is rather questionable.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 10 00:43:07 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Shades of Nixon.

WG



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Maverick says:
(Wed May 10 00:34:27 2017 69.244.158.94)
Eliza Dushku joins the CBS Series "Bull" for a 3-episode arc starting tonight. And, yes, it's on opposite "iZombie."


Maverick


Beginnings




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue May 9 23:18:33 2017 209.159.254.195)
That's exactly right!

FInally started catching up to the news....Comey is fired. Wow.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 9 21:57:04 2017 4.28.180.2)
Trivia Girl,

Buffy Anne Summers

1981-2001

Beloved Sister
Devoted Friend

She Saved The World
A Lot



WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue May 9 20:38:19 2017 199.127.148.10)
Edited: Tue May 9 20:39:09 2017
Trivia Girl She Saved The World A Lot, just "lurrv" the Val-speak!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue May 9 20:23:56 2017 205.141.67.16)
Ack! I forgot the trivia!

Sunnydale's SUPER late Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What was the phrase etched on Buffy's gravestone?



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 9 18:55:02 2017 71.56.125.67)
Agent Cooper & DaddyCatALSO,

An excerpt ...

"After this tentative start, delegates moved to the blank left in Randolph's opening outline: 'for the term of ____ years.' Wilson opened the bidding with three years, and Charles Pinkney countered with seven. Sherman, for a change, agreed with Wilson. George Mason argued 'for seven years at least' with one term only, but Gunning Bedford of Delaware warned against seven because the nation might be 'saddled' wih a first magistrate who was not up to the job. Three and seven were the only numbers presented. The day was wearing on. Debate was limited. On a hasty vote, the longer term prevailed by five states to four, with one divided. They did not address the question of whether the executive(s) could serve more than one term..."

From The Complete Idiot's Guide to the Founding Fathers, p.120


Note: the term, 'president', was not used until a couple months later. Also, at the time the above debate happened, they had not yet decided whether there would be a single executive or several.


More later

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 9 18:08:15 2017 71.56.125.67)
DaddyCatALSO & Agent Cooper,

I have the sort of reference books at hand that might answer the term length question.

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue May 9 18:00:37 2017 165.225.38.83)
The average age of an elected US president is 55 years old. Assuming you are that young when you take office, by the end of an 8 year term you are about at retirement age.

..And many of our presidents are much older than 55 when they take office.

The 8 year cap on the office is good idea.

What we REALLY, REALLY need in this country is 2 year term limits for congressmen, with ONE TERM allowed only, coupled with term limits for and a drastic cutting of the permanent bureaucratic positions in government as well.

That would break the corrupt government aristocracy's hold on power.
Which is why they will fight tooth and nail to prevent any of this.


Gondor has no king. Gondor needs no king.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue May 9 16:51:02 2017 199.127.148.10)
Just found out our own Tony did the Shakespeare reading on Chris DeBurgh's single "Don't Pay the Ferryman."

Finally saw *The Night Of the Hunter* after decades of wanting to. I think Harry was one of presumably many inspirations Joss had in developing Caleb.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue May 9 16:37:09 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Christopher Marlowe As to *why* 4 years was picked, that wasn't covered in 8th grade Civics. Probably they thought it was symmetrical between 2 and 6. Keep in mind this was an early experiment; the closest thing like it was Switzerland; Venice and Genoa had elections, but only nobles and other prominent people voted.
The House term of 2 years is the *really* remarkable one compared to other countries



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue May 9 15:38:16 2017 165.225.38.83)
So....hungry....must...get...food...

Gahhhh!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue May 9 11:54:28 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Tuesday, May 9th 2017 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Daphmax
Kayls
Sonrisa

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Daphmax, Kayls, Sonrisa!



I happen to be very biteable, pal. I'm moist and delicious. Xander, 'Hush''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayoftheDay says:
(Tue May 9 11:39:57 2017 209.159.254.195)
lets hear a great big bronze cheer for motorcycle au pair boy!

yay motorcycle au pair boy!

deadguy memorial buffy qod brought to you by Sunnydale's Telltale Tailors, customized suits for every monstrous size!

Which Scooby Gang member had the most fabulous wardrobe?



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 9 07:28:33 2017 71.56.125.67)
Yay Prince of Lunacy!


Christopher Marlowe,

I do not know how the presidential term came to be four years. The limit of two four-year terms was set by the 22nd Amendment after WWII and was a reaction to FDR being elected four times.


Belated Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

If Angel and company choose to create a side business, what would it be?

Angel and Illyria run a private military company based in Vieste, Italy. Gunn practices law, specializing in human augmentation. Spike runs a micro-brewery.


Night All

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue May 9 03:53:04 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard I think the US is one of the countries with the shortest terms for Presidents. And they only serve two terms. I wonder how that was settled?



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 9 03:07:17 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

I believe the French president's term is five years. Once upon a time it was
seven.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue May 9 03:03:34 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard I hope they get more than 100 days to do it!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 9 02:02:46 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

The people who believe France benefits from the EU and globalization have
bought some time to prove it to the 11 million-odd people who voted for Le Pen.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue May 9 01:02:47 2017 70.198.35.152)
Wolfguard

What do you make of the election of
Macron?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon May 8 22:24:18 2017 205.141.67.16)
Sunnydales Trivial Pursuit

Category: History
Question: What was the name of the owl Florence Nightingale kept?
Answer: Athena

Trivia Wisemen: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Wiseguys: Agent Cooper, wolfguard


Ah...I see Heather Wilson has been confirmed as Secretary!



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wolfguard says:
(Mon May 8 21:12:49 2017 4.28.180.2)
Triva Girl,

Archimedes XI

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon May 8 20:51:36 2017 104.129.194.107)
Trivia Girl: Herbert WHOOOver



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Comma says:
(Mon May 8 20:22:54 2017 75.143.154.113)
Trivial Girl: Who Girl!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon May 8 17:41:35 2017 205.141.67.16)
Agent Cooper An excellent question! That I wished I had the answer for!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon May 8 16:47:35 2017 104.129.194.107)
Trivia Girl: Okay, wait a sec. Wouldn't Florence Nightengale have kept, you know, a Nightengale?

Why an owl? Just to troll history forever afterwards?



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon May 8 15:50:39 2017 76.120.26.241)
Trivia Girl
Athena



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon May 8 14:56:29 2017 205.141.67.16)
Sunnydales Trivial Pursuit

Category: History
Question: What was the name of the owl Florence Nightingale kept?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon May 8 13:11:05 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Monday, May 8th 2017 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


Alex
chemistrygirl
Kalila
Kenickie
Lan
NTV Alex
VeeJay
weezergeek

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Alex, chemistrygirl, Kalila, Kenickie, Lan, NTV Alex, VeeJay, weezergeek!



She's terse. I can be terse. Once in flight school, I was laconic. Wash, 'War Stories''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayoftheDay says:
(Mon May 8 12:45:41 2017 209.159.254.195)
let hear a great big bronze cheer for prince of lunacy!

yay prince of lunacy!

goodbye blue monday



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Comma says:
(Mon May 8 01:58:07 2017 75.143.154.113)
Ate at my favorite Italian restaurant in Arlington, VA today. I first ate here, with good friend Dan, in 2007. We were in Arlington, back in 2007, for the military burial of a good friend. Dan, who is second generation Italian-American, and I both speak Italian. This restaurant is in an old house and has no signage that shows what it is. They are also not listed on-line or in the phone book. Except for our first trip there, when Dan and I started off speaking English and the waitress responded in same, I have never heard anyone speak English there. Great place to forget the world at. Back to work at the DC offices tomorrow.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon May 8 01:09:24 2017 70.198.46.82)
Yo beta



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun May 7 21:30:46 2017 209.159.254.195)
And I'm back home from Guardians. A more solid movie than I had expected, which raises it a bit above the first one.



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cmarlowe says:
(Sun May 7 18:12:30 2017 107.167.126.98)
guardians starting soon!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun May 7 12:55:12 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Sunday, March 7th 2017 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


DrGonzo
Kira
SuzSqueak
VaBuffyFan

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to DrGonzo, Kira, SuzSqueak, VaBuffyFan!



And almost sixty-five percent of that was actual compliment. Is that a personal best?
Xander, 'Becoming (1)''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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des says:
(Sun May 7 04:54:38 2017 71.28.219.40)
This is a test of the password renewal system. If this had been a real post, a message or comment would have been typed. This concludes this test of the password renewal system.



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werewolf123 says:
(Sun May 7 04:28:13 2017 68.12.72.107)
No



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun May 7 01:32:49 2017 209.159.254.195)
Anyone hereabouts other than me?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat May 6 20:18:26 2017 70.198.52.124)
It feels like such a long day
already and it's only two pm here!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat May 6 12:39:31 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Saturday, March 6th 2017 C.E.

We have ONE (1) Birthdays!


The Host's Mom

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to the Host's Mom!



Joyce: You don't think it's too obvious? I think I look like I have a cat on my head. Buffy: But a very well groomed cat. Joyce: Well that's a comfort. 'Into the Woods'

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat May 6 03:22:00 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard You bring your shovel and I'll bring my bucket and we'll make sand castles. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Sat May 6 03:11:01 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

We're all playing in the same sandbox. *g*


Agent Cooper,

Just noticed that the first result of searching "Friedman China" is an article
by Friedman in the New York Times (March 29, 2017) titled, "Trump is a
Chinese Agent". *g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat May 6 01:34:01 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard That's basically what the instructor said, 'emotional truth'!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 5 23:21:56 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

The "write what you know" is frequently advised. OTOH, what did Asimov know
about galactic empires or Flaubert about bored, adulterous housewives? Or the
Jeff Lindsay about the urges to kill people - time after time?

What does Joss know about being a teen-age girl? (Is having been a teen-age boy
enough?)

Most western movies have little bearing with history. Very few gunfights were
fought, face-to-face, on the streets of Dodge City.

It may come back to the idea of "emotional truth". What the writer knows is
people.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 5 22:58:51 2017 209.159.254.195)
Edited: Fri May 5 23:01:06 2017
wolfguard Your post on wonder. *g*

I month or so ago, I took a writing workshop. The instructor uttered a familiar phrase, 'write what you know', but he broke that down by having us write down our experiences in various decades of your life, associating them with a particular mood, emotion or life experience category. With that you have the basis to write a fair number of directions that would engage your audience.

As far as physics versus literature, there is also that physics is more science than art. *g*

OTOH, there was this. Einstein



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 5 21:35:22 2017 4.28.180.2)
Agent Cooper,

One of the search results was a collection of video links to Friedman
comparing China and the US. It's on the 'Zero Hedge' site and is dated
January 2011. The introduction to the collection is by "Tyler Durden", one
of the pen names of the folks who run the site. I recall several of these
guys have since been identified and they are financial-investment types. I
have to take issue with one line from the introduction ...

"...And as the premise of globalization goes through its own death
rattle, just like the ridiculous Keynesian notion that only more debt can
save us from record debt...
"

This takes Keynes' thinking out-of-context. I don't know if the writer has
actually studied Keynes in any depth or is just playing to the prejudices of
his audience. It's ironic that some of the West's most influential thinkers
- e.g. Darwin, Freud, Einstein, Keynes - are misunderstood.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 5 21:20:27 2017 4.28.180.2)
DaddyCatALSO,

My critique of Friedman is not that of Agent Cooper's. It's more of a
warning to myself. Friedman's talent is rendering into memorable words and
phrases, complex situations. Few people do this well. Unfortunately, such
renderings may outshine better analyses.


Agent Cooper,

After reading your post, I googled ~ Friedman China ~. Whoa. I didn't
realize he had gotten himself into some many folks cross-hairs. May look at
some of the results later.

I do not think TPTB in China are "communists', at least not most of them.
1 They are authoritarians. They are more than willing to direct
the economy. But, few are true communists.


1 With a billion+ people, some are likely communists - and some
are likely capitalists. Some Indian once said, ~ Anything you say about
India is both true and false. China may be like that.


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri May 5 19:06:43 2017 104.129.194.107)
Daddycatalso - Thomas Friedman LOVES him some Chinese Communism. He thinks the ChiComs have just THE best economic and social system in the world and that they have in fact created a utopia on earth, and its WAY better than anything the western capitalist systems could ever dream of.

That's pretty much all you need to know about him.

Chris Marlowe: Do you have any weird scars on your neck - Like two small pinpricks maybe? Have you lost any time in the last couple of days? Having trouble sleeping at night?

:-P



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 5 18:48:33 2017 205.141.67.16)
Happy Cinco De Mayo! Potluck at work, mostly tacos and burritos.

Agent Cooper Feeling better for sure, but there is still leftover sore throat, it's like little pinpricks of soreness at the back of my throat, very very annoying.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 5 18:31:36 2017 71.56.125.67)



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri May 5 15:50:46 2017 104.129.194.107)
Notsoshygirl: So it's kinda like Fun-employment? Don't worry, something will come up.

Chris Marlowe: Feeling better today?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri May 5 13:19:58 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Friday, March 5th 2017 C.E.
Happy Cinco De Mayo!

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


BuffyBrazil
duffygirl
IBM
Peachy
Sapphire
Vincent Paul Kartheiser as Connor Angel
Yelowsub

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to BuffyBrazil, duffygirl, IBM, Peachy, Sapphire, Vincent Paul Kartheiser, Yelowsub



My food is problematic.River, 'The Message''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayoftheDay says:
(Fri May 5 12:39:24 2017 209.159.254.195)
lets hear a great big bronze cheer for aussiebulldog!


yay aussiebulldog!

Thank Joss its Friday!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri May 5 11:52:54 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard I'll buy that; I was just playing off the title, not familiar in detail with the book



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 5 03:51:04 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

This is a drive-by, but will check back around an hour.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 5 01:22:37 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard Are you hereabouts?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 5 00:07:47 2017 209.159.254.195)
MAverick I hope not. I may have caught something from some kids. Kids are like ground zero for everything.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu May 4 23:11:34 2017 209.159.254.195)
Category: Pop Culture
Question: Ray Kroc started what restaurant chain?
Answer: McDonald's

Trivia Mickeys: notsoShyGirl, Maverick
Trivia Dees: Agent Cooper



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 4 22:29:01 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Avian Flu?!?!

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 4 22:11:14 2017 209.159.254.195)
okay, this being sick stuff is for the birds.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu May 4 21:59:27 2017 76.120.26.241)
Agent Cooper, Christopher Marlowe
I'm good. Unemployed, but good.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 4 21:41:15 2017 4.28.180.2)
DaddyCatALSO,

I'm leery of Thomas Friedman. He's a fine writer, but often goes for a catchy
phrase at the cost of analysis.

... The Washington Post called End of the Line "Tom Friedman for
grown-ups"...
" *g* (Another book on globalization by Barry Lynn).


Laurence Smith, a geographer, wrote The World in 2050 which imagines the
near future of the northern circumpolar states based on four driving forces:
population, resource depletion, climate change, and globalization. A more
education read that Friedman.

WG



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Maverick says:
(Thu May 4 20:52:13 2017 69.244.158.94)
Agent Cooper: Oh, don't mind me. You get to a certain age, and you do not have the patience for things that are too exotic; you want something with a more practical, pragmatic application to reality. Obama ruined my descent into fantasy; he had us all too close to Re-education Camps. I can't even watch cartoons anymore. The younger generations are so naive and ignorant they would want to give this country away, just so they can "feel good about themselves." I've always known enough about what's really going on to feel good about myself. Everyone should watch the DVD of Dinesh D'Souza's "America: Imagine a World Without Her" to hear information to counter people like Howard Zinn who make up sh!t to disparage the motives of American exceptionalism. All Michiganiacs are Trolls, (who live under the bridge [Mackinac].)


Maverick


Dust In The Wind




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 4 20:42:19 2017 70.198.57.42)
Abt have you been watching Doctor
who?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu May 4 20:36:05 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard You posted a n article about old diseases we might not have developed immune systems for emerging from the permafrost. So I did a play on the title of the book *Hot, Flat, and Crowded*.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 4 20:11:33 2017 4.28.180.2)
DaddyCatALSO,

?

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu May 4 19:28:42 2017 104.129.194.107)
Abt, Maverick: Okay, you guys are just trolling me at this point, right?

:-P



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abt says:
(Thu May 4 19:13:14 2017 84.9.76.236)
Agent Cooper - my family had to sleep in the Underground during the Blitz. So living down there not so unreasonable.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu May 4 18:41:56 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard So, potentially hot, flat, a nd not so crowded?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu May 4 18:29:39 2017 104.129.194.107)
Maverick: But you're looking at it too literally. It's not like people are wandering around having adventures in the London sewers. More like there is a magical alternate world beneath the city.



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Maverick says:
(Thu May 4 18:10:29 2017 69.244.158.94)
Edited: Thu May 4 18:14:00 2017
Trivia Girl: Mickey Dee's Krock of Crap Cafeteria.


Agent Cooper: Yes, well, if it had taken place in downtown L.A., I might have bought it; after all, "Them" (giant ants in the storm sewers) was okay. This might be too much related to one of my prior jobs, but if they have separated the sanitary sewers (from houses) from the storm (water runoff) sewers, then I could see the possibility of traveling through the storm sewers but forget the sewage part. See London Sewerage System (note the first Literary and Media Reference). P.S. if you like "Neverwhere" you might enjoy Christopher Golden's "Strangewood" (Golden's written "Buffy" novels and sometimes writes with Amber Benson. "Strangewood" was, for me, a tad too far divorced from reality.


Puerto Rico declared Bankruptcy


Maverick


Does Anyone Know What Time It Is?




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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 4 18:09:38 2017 71.56.125.67)
Drive-By

~Disease in the ice (BBC Online)


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 4 16:29:09 2017 209.159.254.195)
Hey there notsoshygirl! How are you doing?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu May 4 15:45:42 2017 104.129.194.107)
Trivia Girl: Doc Hopper's Frog Legs


Notsoshygirl: Oh thank goodness you're back! I thought I was going to have start answering the trivia questions correctly.

How's it going?



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu May 4 15:09:39 2017 76.120.26.241)
Trivia Girl
McDonalds



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu May 4 14:34:57 2017 209.159.254.195)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Pop Culture
Question: Ray Kroc started what restaurant chain?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu May 4 13:48:00 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Monday, May 4th2017 C.E.
May the 4th be with you!

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Angel Williams
Pebbles
Mari
Wire Ghost

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angel Williams, Pebbles, Mari, Wire Ghost!



It's called a blaster, Will, a word that tends to discourage experimentation. Now, if it were called the Orgasmater, I'd be the first to try your basic button press approach.
Xander, 'This Year's Girl' '''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu May 4 13:13:43 2017 104.129.194.107)
Maverick: If you're thinking about things like that, a fantasy novel like Neverwhere is not for you. You gotta have some level of suspension of disbelief to enjoy books like that. It's not an engineering textbook.

Yes, London Below is probably dirty, and definitely very dangerous. Just go with it.

I don't have any desire to watch the mini-series, as Gaiman himself said he had to cut too much story from it, and put the full version he intended in the novel.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu May 4 12:56:20 2017 104.129.194.107)
Mornin Bronze.

May the Fourth Be With You!



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YayoftheDay says:
(Thu May 4 12:46:12 2017 209.159.254.195)
lets hear a great big bronze cheer for MapB!

yay MapB!


Happy CD Thursday!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 4 02:53:53 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

I can offer some answers to your wonder. *g*

In no particular order ...

- A large knowledge base of stories from comics, books, movies, etc.

- A willingness and ability to step outside the box, turn the box
upside/down, inside/out, stomp-shred-douse-set on fire, juxtapose with other
boxes - other things.

(How do you even you know you're in a box? (No Sigma Six here) You know
because of the large knowledge base.

There are some other tools, but the proprietary to me. *g*


Also, a writer needs to know her audience. This is probably more important
than knowing a lot about the 'human experience'. It's why some young authors
can be successful. They know something about their audience from being from
that audience).1

Also-2, fictional writers can be hampered by objectivity. It's hard to make
people feel for a protagonist or against an antagonist if the writer is
saying or implying there's a case to be made for both parties. This may be
one reason Joss is attacking Trump, etc. Joss' beliefs and feelings trump
his reasoning (I couldn't help it). It annoys those who support Trump, but
then Joss' is preaching to his choir and they support him.

Also-3, with respect to Joss, he was exposed to Shakespeare and apparently
to story analysis when he was in school/college. That can help him see the
boxes.

1 Someone of note said it's easier for a young person to win a
Nobel prize in physics than in literature, because the latter usually
demands experiencing a bit of life that take some years.


WG



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Maverick says:
(Thu May 4 02:19:45 2017 69.244.158.94)
Edited: Thu May 4 09:28:21 2017
Agent Cooper1: I HAVE read "Neverwhere" AND "American Gods." I have also had many "Sandman" comics. Unfortunately, I don't have strong lingering memories of any of these. I DO think a viewing of the "Neverwhere" TV series would help me. How about you? I don't know, yet, where I can watch this for free, but I will find out. I guess I had a difficult time believing the underground of London as liveable; it seems it would be too stinky and dirty. I found "The Mote in God's Eye" much more believable (and clean.) "American Gods" also left me doubting Gaiman had any feel for the American culture. Gaiman is just too good-looking (jealous.) Why did I read these? I used to have a subscription to "Locus" the magazine of the field of sci-fi and horror publishing. Alternate history is evil, weakening reality.


Agent Cooper2: Sounds like you need Guerilla Marketing. Ways to "advertise" without spending money--that is to say, how to get your name and ideas in front of decision-makers. I've tried some of these years ago, so if you have questions, let me know. I was a Controller for construction companies and I got our name (and pictures of our jobs) in trade journals. If you place an employee candidate, and the job is higher level, a notice of this CAN go into local journals, under your company's auspices. Also, you can submit discussion ideas to your local TV morning shows (which must be hungry for content.) Advice on employment tips can make your company sound like "experts."


Good Luck to notsoShyGirl on getting a swell job that she will enjoy.


Maverick


Mandy




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 4 01:44:28 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard Joss has good imagination, I wonder where that comes from? *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 3 23:45:46 2017 4.28.180.2)
Trivia Girl,

Holtz was just a figment of Joss and David's imaginations. *g*

WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed May 3 23:04:49 2017 209.159.254.195)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who kidnapped Connor and took him to a hell dimension?
Answer: holtz

wolfguard, Agent Cooper, you guys are such cards. *g*



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed May 3 20:43:11 2017 199.168.151.175)
Wolfguard: We seem to have a pretty good staff on board right now (Finally!)

*knocks on wood-throws salt over left shoulder-crosses himself, etc*

Chris Marlowe: Guy Gavriel Kay. He does these sort of alternate historical novels. They're very good. He also did a series of three books called the "Fionvar Tapestry" which is fantastic. Definitely worth reading.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 3 20:18:31 2017 4.28.180.2)
Agent Cooper,

And yet, as I recall, you're frequently training new employees, some who do not
seem to have right stuff. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 3 19:42:29 2017 209.159.254.195)
Agent Cooper Kay? I don't believe so!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed May 3 19:21:02 2017 199.168.151.175)
Wolfguard: Kinda sorta related, but all this marketing stuff is much easier now with the internet. You still have to do your homework, but much of what we do here is predicated on behavioral targeting online.

It's spooky accurate too.

For instance, my team focuses on recruitment. In that vein, we can target people that have the exact skillset you as a hiring manager need, in whatever location you want.

For instance, if you need to hire a pediatric nurse, we can send your job listing people in that exact field in any location you want in the US.

We can also target them by specific location, and by that I mean this: There are several major hospitals in the area here, and there's fierce competition for skilled experienced nurses between them all. So say you are a recruiter in hospital A. You want to get nurses to jump ship from Hospital B and come work for you. No problem. We can send your job offer to the smart phone of any nurse of any specialty you want who is currently in or ever been in the hospital B building or grounds.

It works for retail ads too. You see it in those ads that follow you around on the net. If you visit several bike store websites, you'll start getting fed ads for bikes and bike parts. And now, they can do the same kind of specific targeting I outlined above. (It's called poygoning, BTW) IE, if you go to AutoZone to buy a car part, you may get an ad message on your smart phone 10 minutes later with coupons for Pep Boys Auto. Triggered by you visiting the Autozone store. Because THEY KNOW you were just there.

Like I said, it's pretty spooky.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 3 18:39:15 2017 71.56.125.67)
Politics (Press Conference)

((Listening to White House Press conference (I'm a political junkie and these days it means being a bit masochistic). Apparently someone asked about Hillary Clinton's recent comments ~ If the election had happened (in) October (28th?), then she would have won. Spicer replied, ~ Well, if the Superbowl had ended after the third quarter, then a different team would have visited us the other day.

Touche
))



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 3 18:26:35 2017 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Wed May 3 18:30:43 2017
Agent Cooper,

One of the lectures I listened to was on marketing segmentation. The lecturer said there were different ways to do it, but it was a mistake to segment by demographics, e.g. gender, age, race, etc. One had to segment based on the value/needs/wants of the customer. He reviewed three approaches ...

1. By user[sp]ETA[/sup]
2. By uses
3. By occasion or event

The example given of 'event' was wine (weddings, gift, end of the day, etc). An example I remember from the mid-80s was an American's company success in selling microwaves to Japanese. The company decided to market microwave cookware. Not so successful. When the company looked into why, they discovered many Japanese buyers were using the microwaves to warm up bath towels.

ETA Types of users. For instance, hand tools. A professional mechanic's needs would be different from a hobbyist which might be different from someone keeping a few tools around for home repairs.

ETA 2 I have a friend who once worked as an auto mechanic. When he bought his first set of tools he told me, ~ I've saved so much money buying Sears rather than Snap-On. After a month he took the 'Craftsman' home and bough Snap-On.



WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed May 3 18:08:35 2017 199.168.151.175)
Wolfguard: Here's how our meetings at whup go:

Management: We need to boost sales. What can we do?

Salespeople: We need to advertise more.

Management: No really, what can we do?

Salespeople: Advertise.

Management: Seriously guys, we need to hear from you guys what we can do to get sales going.

Salespeople: We need to advertise, but you won't spend the money. We're an advertising company that doesn't advertise. That's stupid cray cray.

Management: If you don't like it here, then go work someplace else. Now seriously, I we need you to focus and help us strategize instead of complaining. What can we do?? Ideas?

Salespeople: *Exasperated silence*

PS - I am not making this up.

Dear God, how I WISH I was making this up.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 3 17:46:08 2017 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Wed May 3 17:47:11 2017
"Deadguy"

Great question, and I have the answer, posted here before, if I can find it. *g*


Trivia Girl,

I know! I Know! Joss and David Greenwalt did it. Together. It was a conspiracy. *g*


Christopher Marlowe,

The professor noted how such meeting topics are just ~expanding busywork~. Strategy outlines the series of actions1 leading to one's goals. He notes it requires making choices which usually cut off options, e.g choosing one's college major means forgoing other majors.

A foreign policy example would be the US' strategy towards the Soviet Union from around 1947 to 1991. We did not want to go to war, because of the risk of such war escalating to using nuclear weapons. We also believed the USSR would, in time, collapse from its own failings. So, we sought to constrain the USSR's influence and expansion using all available tools, including deterrence and proxy wars.

1 One can devise alternative sets of actions for contingencies and one can adapt in light of new knowledge and circumstances.


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed May 3 17:06:20 2017 199.168.151.175)
Chris Marlowe: Sorry you're feeling ill. Hey, at least you get the day off work, right? Glass half full and all that.

And Ok, OMG! You know that feeling you get when you introduce somebody new to a fantastic book that you are excited about?

Neverwhere is a fantastic book. Read it! Trust ol' Agent Cooper on this one. I was right about the Aeronaut's Windlass, right? :-)

There's a TV mini-series too but I've never seen it. In fact, Gaiman worked on the mini-series for the BBC first, and THEN wrote the novel afterwards because he was frustrated about how much of the story he had to cut to fit on the TV version.

Fans of Neverwhere (like me if you can't tell) have been waiting and begging for him to write a sequel for years now. He always said he would eventually do it, but it's taken forever. And now he's finally doing it.

I love Neil Gaiman and I'm a big fan, he's a great writer. But I was a little disappointed in American Gods. Don't get me wrong, it was not horrible. But with Gaiman the bar is set pretty high, once you've read his best stuff (like Neverwhere.) Hopefully the screen version will be better.

BTW Have you ever ready anything by Guy Gavriel Kay?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 3 16:35:36 2017 209.159.254.195)
Agent Cooper I'm home from work already, I was feeling like the bottom of the birdcage and the boss sent me home. I'm not terribly familiar with Neverwhere, what would a sequel be about?

I hope to eventually catch up to American Gods.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed May 3 15:46:05 2017 199.168.151.175)
Trivia Girl: Constantine.


Oh hey guys, I just found out Neil Gaiman is writing a sequel to "Neverwhere." This is fantastic news.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed May 3 14:46:40 2017 205.141.67.16)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who kidnapped Connor and took him to a hell dimension?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed May 3 11:47:28 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Very true. Always interesting to s ee who *doesn't* jump in these days:-).



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed May 3 11:46:28 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Wednesday, May 3rd 2017 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


Aphrodesia
Carrots
Katiface
meow
MsChanson
Sunburst
txyankee

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Aphrodesia, Carrots, Katiface, meow, MsChanson, Sunburst, txyankee



Yes, it's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after. Giles, 'Lie To Me'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayofTheDay says:
(Wed May 3 11:41:23 2017 209.159.254.195)
lets hear a great big bronze cheer for maab!

yay maab!

deadguy memorial question of the day..Los Angeles Vamp emporium, for all your vamping needs.

If Angel and company choose to create a side business, what would it be?

happy non-Angel Wednesday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 3 03:27:55 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard Oh man, I had flashbacks to when the company tried that Six Sigma program, GAH!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 3 02:54:02 2017 209.159.254.195)
back home again.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 3 02:32:16 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Several things. Read two articles and a column in a recent Scientific
American
and listened to two lectures - one on marketing and one on how
strategy can fall apart. The latter included using a memo/directive as an
example of mission creep applied to individuals. I suspect the memo was
created as an example, but it may not be. Here's part of it ...

TEAM,

~ We have been given the directive to take things to the nextlevel of
thinking.

(Come to the meeting with ) Ideations (followed by a list which included)

- What does outside the box thinking look like? Use a six sigma flow chart
to show.

- How do I personally embody brand identity?

- What does Total Quality Management meant to me? To my subordinates?

- Bring mental map of Unique Value Chain. Bring visual of five new key
markets.

Get ready for the nextlevel thinking.

The Management

Seeking excellence always!



GAG

*g*


WG



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cmarlowe says:
(Wed May 3 01:53:33 2017 107.167.127.100)
at a local forum. Feels a bit like a lions den.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 3 01:01:32 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard Did you learn anything new today? I did. I was looking at ordering glasses online and learned what some of the numbers on my prescription mean.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 3 00:00:41 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard He was rather a sweet boy before getting long in the tooth. *g*



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Comma says:
(Tue May 2 23:43:35 2017 75.143.154.113)
Edited: Wed May 3 00:27:40 2017
Thanks for the birthday notice. Maverick: Thanks. At my age, and with all my training, I am at the point, in my life, when I rarely care what people think about my words or my actions. No, I do not try and be mean to anyone. I can accept that we may disagree.

Anytime I disappear know that I am working on something and only have time to work and nap. Somewhere in there is eating German foods, real Asian food, or steaks. Name any type restaurant and there is one somewhere in DC. I also, when not on the clock and can get to Nashville, like to eat at a real Greek restaurant, real near the Greek Orthodox Church in Nashville, and a Jamaican restaurant in Nashville.

I will continue the Slayer draft next week.

Comma



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 2 23:22:10 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

I do. Because of William's fondness for biscuits, his mom called him "Sweet-
tooth". It's true. *g*


WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue May 2 22:57:25 2017 209.159.254.195)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who called Spike Blondie Bear?
Answer:

Agent Cooper is FIrST and RIGHT!

wolguard I'm not sure what his mom called him, other than William.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 2 21:16:25 2017 4.28.180.2)
Trivia Girl,

His Mum?


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue May 2 21:15:17 2017 205.141.67.16)
Agent Cooper I think notsoShyGirl posted from work and, unfortunately, is seeking a new job!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue May 2 20:56:20 2017 199.168.151.175)
Where is notsoshygirl?

Somebody HAS to, you know, actually answer the trivia question correctly.

I'm docking her a day's Bronze pay. Which is a trazillion imaginary internet dollars.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 2 20:49:27 2017 4.28.180.2)
DaddyCatALSO,

We, the last ones, must join in the continuing conversation whenever possible.
*g*

WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue May 2 20:46:23 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Show folk, a cutally. Rose was a songwriter and promoter, Lowe and Carter are singers, weinfeld is sort of adirector etc. Didn't actually figure on you as a participant, in fact.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 2 18:32:38 2017 71.56.125.67)
DaddyCatALSO,

It may not have been "tricky" question, but it was one that required more attention to actors' personal lives than I give. Just went back and looked at your list - seven or eight of the names I would not have been able to identify as actors.

WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue May 2 16:42:37 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Maverick Agent Cooper Well, Okay, good effort, but I wasn't trying to be tricky. It was simply that all those couples were his first marriage, her third.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue May 2 15:40:41 2017 199.168.151.175)
Trivia Girl: Harmony. And probably Buffy a few times. I mean, they WERE boinking constantly at one time. *gag*



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue May 2 14:49:32 2017 205.141.67.16)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who called Spike Blondie Bear?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue May 2 13:17:59 2017 199.168.151.175)
Maverick: I dunno, I've heard the anthem plenty enough to know I don't like it as much as those other two songs. I still think one of those would be better. I'm talking purely from a musical sense here.

And I'm okay with "My Country" sounding like "God Save the Queen." Since we started out as an English colony, and had strong ties to England for long time it's fitting in a historical way.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue May 2 12:47:29 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Tuesday, May 2nd 2017 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Animalistic
English Gurl
Pam
Shan

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Animalistic, English Gurl, Pam, Shan!



Jinx? If you and Dreg have been using my moisturizer again I'm going to have to rip off your scaly- hey, what's the deal with your face? Glory, 'Checkpoint''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue May 2 12:28:34 2017 209.159.254.195)
Yay shade of bronze!

deadguy qod

I can see Buffy watching trashy shows, like Keeping up with the Kardashians, imaging what kinds of demons or vampires they are.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue May 2 11:57:10 2017 199.127.148.10)
Now I remember, Billy Rose and Fanny Brice.



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YayofTheDay says:
(Tue May 2 11:50:42 2017 209.159.254.195)
lets hear a great big bronze cheer for shade of bronze!

yay shade of bronze!

deadguy memorial question brought to you by the Neilson Company, now surveying the viewing habits of vampires!

If Buffy was chosen as a Neilson family, what would she be watching?

Happy non-Buffy Tuesday!



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Maverick says:
(Tue May 2 05:04:30 2017 69.244.158.94)
Agent Cooper: Finally, we disagree on something major. I'm a little older than thou and I've seen it played more often at Olympic Medal Ceremonies than you have. It's always given me goosebumps. "My County 'Tis Of Thee" is the same melody as "God Save the Queen[or King, as the case may be])" (in other words, it's the same as the British National Anthem.) I can't argue that "America the Beautiful" is anything but a beautiful song (especially the Brother Ray [Charles] version); it just doesn't have "bombs bursting in air" which I believe is more bad@ss. Listen to the other national anthems; they somehow seem methodically plodding (listen to the Russian one) while ours is more unexpectedly raw. BTW, I purposefully refuse to call Global Warming "Climate Change" to not let them off the hook. The original Global Warming argument had only to do with CO2. They (mostly Al Gore) found a period of time wherein the temperatures seemed to be rising while the concentration of CO2 was also rising. But then there was a Pause in the temperature rising BUT the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere continued to rise. I would say that most of the temperature rise they were talking about had other causes, like El Niño and the Heat Island Effect from Federal Highways and Airports being paved and relocating the weather stations to the airports where it's artificially hotter. They just want to call it Climate Change as it vagues it up just a bit more and they can hide behind the gross imprecision of it.


Trivia Girl: I live in the vicinity of Detroit and have never heard of a Boston Cooler. We DO have wine coolers. And we always have people being held in the cooler, here in Detroit, but it doesn't have anything to do with Boston.


DaddyCatALSO: Does it have anything to do with working together on a project or movie?


Maverick


Color My World




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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 2 03:07:30 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

I believe they will be. BtVS makes frequent appearances in articles and books
discussing must-see, classic, or influential television shows. Other people and
shows have taken up Joss' approach, but he pioneered it.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue May 2 03:02:45 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard I wonder if people will be talking about Buffy ten more years from now?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue May 2 01:59:50 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard That is true



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wolfguard says:
(Tue May 2 00:27:40 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

People get second opinions on medical issues. It's probably not that difficult
to find a doctor who would advise against vaccinations, because there are a lot
of doctors and the internet makes it easy to search. It's like looking for a
scientist that disagrees with this or that finding in science. You can find a
scientist who questions relativity, gravity, evolution, etc. OTOH, there's a
paraphrase of a biblical quote on how to approach such minority opinions.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon May 1 23:43:48 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard When it comes to financial advisors, it's kind of like finding a therapist, someone who is willing to work with you.

If one don't trust their own doctor's recommendations on vaccinations, then that's a pretty serious problem.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon May 1 23:02:06 2017 209.159.254.195)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Drinks
Question: What city did the Boston Cooler originate?
Answer: Detroic

Trivia Travelers: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Parked: Maverick!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon May 1 22:24:19 2017 205.141.67.16)
heading on home after a typical Monday, meh..



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon May 1 20:37:15 2017 199.127.148.10)
agent Cooper I appreciate the jest but I have an actual aspect in mind, just wish I could recall who "Billy" is.
It's true, as I understand most national anthems are stories of praise for the country's landscapes and/or popular customs, rather than of a specific national event, with the quasi-idolatrous aspects being peculiar to the US. Not to say I personally wish to c hange it. cc Maverick



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon May 1 19:44:58 2017 199.168.151.175)
Daddycatalso: I bet they all knew Kevin Bacon somehow.

And as we all now, Kevin Bacon was a great earth hero...

Maverick: I never really cared for our national anthem. As songs go, it's pretty mediocre Which isn't surprising given it's origin as a bar song. It's hard to sing, the melody is choppy and the lyrics are just clumsy.

I think America the Beautiful should be the anthem. Much nicer song. Or My Country Tis of Thee, that's nice too. Either one would be a big improvement. Both have a nice melody, meaningful lyrics and are easy to belt out.

PS - They don't call it "Global Warming" anymore. They stopped calling it that when the data showed the earth wasn't warming in the way they claimed. It's called "Climate Change" now. Which is a pretty clever dodge. Of course the climate is gonna change. It's kinda like officially calling your group the sky is blue association, or the water is wet club.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon May 1 19:30:34 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Kinda unspecific there, chief*g. I'm going for a specific. Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore also qualify.

Maverick Lowe is 6 years older than Carter, Curtis was two years older than Leigh, so, nope.



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Maverick says:
(Mon May 1 18:42:59 2017 69.244.158.94)
I love it. At a hockey game in Canada between Edmonton Oilers and the Anaheim Ducks, the mic failed and the Edmonton Canadians sang the U.S. National Anthem See it here. If the x is next to the speaker symbol, click it off so you can hear it. A pretty good job, methinks. Maybe better even than one of our hockey crowds could do. It's still a wonderful song. We would probably fail completely with "Oh, Canada" although we could all hum it, I'll bet. Aww, give it a try, hum along, although this is kind of an upbeat version of "Oh, Canada."



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Maverick says:
(Mon May 1 18:14:39 2017 69.244.158.94)




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wolfguard says:
(Mon May 1 17:56:32 2017 71.56.125.67)
DaddyCatALSO,

They are all heterosexual couples? *g*


Christopher Marlowe,

Being able to afford an expert fulfills the "able", but not whether or not a person is "willing". For instance, it's relatively easy to find information on line and it does not take too much effort to assess the source, yet people appear not to use experts who do not believe as they believe. An examle - vaccinations.


WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon May 1 16:56:02 2017 199.127.148.10)
Just For Fun:

What fairly specific relationship aspect do these current or former married couples have in common?
Tony Curtis and Janet LEigh.
Ryan O'Neal and Joanna Moore.
Billy Something and Somebody.
Andre Weinfeld and Raquel welch.
Diana Dors and Alan Lake.
Sandy Duncan and Don Correia.
Tom Cruise and Mimi Rogers.
Nick Lowe and Carlene Carter.
not sure about this one Mark Leslie Ford and Emma Caulfield.
?



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon May 1 16:15:03 2017 76.120.26.241)
Trivia Girl
Detroit



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon May 1 15:00:19 2017 205.141.67.16)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Drinks
Question: What city did the Boston Cooler originate?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon May 1 13:12:45 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Monday, May 1st 2017 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Bailey Chase as Graham Miller
Julie Benz as Darla
Kugelmass
Mabb
vampchica

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Bailey Chase, Julie Benz, Kugelmass, Mabb, vampchica!



Tara: Do you have any books on robots? Giles: Oh, yes, dozens. There's a lot of research to be done in order to--no, I'm lying. Haven't got squat. I just like watching Xander squirm.'I Was Made To Love You'

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YayofTheDay says:
(Mon May 1 12:40:16 2017 209.159.254.195)
lets have a great big bronze cheer for thumper!

yay thumper!


goodbye blue Monday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Apr 30 23:03:17 2017 209.159.254.195)
wolfguard great quote from LBJ. I wonder if part of the reason wealthy people go to experts is that they can afford them? Folks without a lot of money do tend to try to DIY, rather than pay professionals.

I would love to sit down with a financial advisor, but when I wanted to see one that came highly recommended, he referred me to other people, I think in part because I didn't have enough assets to be worth having as a client.



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Apr 30 20:57:51 2017 71.56.125.67)
Comma,

Clever topic. I will come back to it later tonight - Sunday night. *g*


Shan,

Should you be lurking in Oz. I rewatched Life Serial and have my notes at hand. *g*


Christopher Marlowe,

They are only absurd in some folks' eyes. Taking each in turn ...

1) Tax Reform

A perennial favorite of many people and organizations. Whether or not a particular proposed tax bill is wise, absurd, or possible depends on the details. Consider two ...

1) End or reduce the mortgage interest deduction. First, why do we have it? Because the government wanted to promote home ownership. Who likes it? Homeowners and homebuilders. Who 'pays' for it? Anyone and everyone who may have otherwise benefited if there had been no such deductions. Is it possible to enact such a tax bill? Near impossible. OTOH, what if were to give people the choice between taking the deduction or using the money to pay down the federal debt? (Why should I have to pay down the federal debt? What about the renters?) What if you could choose instead to put that money to building "The Wall" or covering low-income folks' medical expenses or building new infrastructure or ...?

2) Repealing ACA

While I don't know if this is absurd or impossible, the first foray under Trump showed the Republicans don't have a plan that they can agree on among themselves. My current understanding of how the ACA was conceived goes like this ...

- During the primaries, Hillary Clinton promoted health care reform in a way that Obama felt obliged to make it a keystone in his campaign. There were two major goals, expanding coverage and bringing down health care costs. As they developed the details the first goal took precedent over the second (though may thought bringing more young, healthy people into the pot would bring down costs).

- People who have philosophical reasons and feelings against public benefits, may in practice embrace them. I have an acquaintance who was anti-Obama, but happily took advantage of the 'cash for clunkers' program. Businesses prefer a light government hand, except when the hand weights the scales in their favour

Consequently, Republicans are finding it will be hard to repeal ACA unless they are willing to accept the high risk of losing power in the mid-terms. Here Trump is ahead of them. As I recall, during the primaries and/or election he said the repeal would have to go hand-in-hand with a replacement. The GOP is having a hard time coming up with a replacement that everyone accepts.

3) The Wall

It can be done. Should it be done? Here its political value as a symbol to the president's supporters outweighs its relative effectiveness. Still, if the choice is between keeping your power or using your power - which is it? There's the story of LBJ being told by his advisors that if he did XYZ there would be hell to pay politiically. LBJ replied ~~ WTF then is the purpose of being president?

4) NAFTA

This is more interesting to me, because Trump's experiences may reflect what his constituents may one day experience with other issues. Trump's Secretary of Agriculture showed him a map of whose jobs would be lost if we were to walk away from NAFTA. Many, if not most, would be jobs held by many of his supporters. Whoa, belay that walk away for now. People that know Trump say he asks for advice and listens.1 He listens because he knows he doesn't know everything - regardless of how he may sound in public. And after he listens he reevaluates.

There are some issues which I think Trump believes are true and he spoke and speaks with passion on them. People supported and voted for him, because they believed the same. Trump is now learning some of his beliefs are not in complete accordance with reality. He now has to reevaluate. The question is can he persuade his supporters of the new reality, e.g. NAFTA is not all bad or it's a good idea screwed up by bad dues, etc. I will make it work for you!

1 A few weeks ago I read an interview of some sort of advisor to very wealthy people, i.e. millionaires and billionaires. This advisor said one common trait of very wealthy people is their willingness to seek out experts and take advice.

WG



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Maverick says:
(Sun Apr 30 19:52:16 2017 69.244.158.94)
Edited: Mon May 1 00:38:53 2017

Birthday Happies to: Comma


Comma: You are perhaps the most unique Bronze poster, which shows to go you that some people just know what they like. Thanks, also, for your Service.


Agent Cooper: I sense Joss may be doubting his abilities, which makes him anxious and worried and causes him to lash out, finding others imperfect. But, he still has certain talents that are unsurpassed (although he doesn't know everything [consider the naiveté of his politics]); he just needs to re-find his groove. He definitely works better off his own material, rather than trying to tailor his sensibilities to already established characters and situations, etc. cc: DaddyCatALSO


Maverick


Behind Blue Eyes




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Apr 30 19:48:50 2017 70.198.48.240)
Good afternoon beta!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Apr 30 12:39:44 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Sunday, April 30th 2017 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Comma
Kali56
Malachi

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to elreyn24, GrimReaper, Polgarita, turtle!



Am I supposed to be changing my clothes a lot? Is that the helpful thing to do?
Anya, 'The Body'


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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Apr 30 02:11:30 2017 209.159.254.195)
Comma That's the crux, isn't it? You have to take it almost on faith that the picks pan out.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Sat Apr 29 23:48:45 2017 100.4.183.212)
Maverick: I saw that today. Just a really nasty, insensitive thing to do. Joss has really gone off the rails with the politics in the last few years. He needs to chill, just let it go, stop watching the news or something. Right now he's just flailing around at everybody, like a drunken man with a baseball bat. It's not a good look.

He needs to get it together, and focus on what's important. Like making that Batgirl movie.



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Comma says:
(Sat Apr 29 22:56:13 2017 75.143.154.113)
ChristopherMarlowe: I waited until pick number 253 was in. On paper: 1. Cleveland Browns-They got everything they needed this year. Because of draft pick trades this year, they pickup several more picks for next year. 2. North Carolina Panthers-Got line protection for Cam Newton, plus a good running back to take the pressure off. 3. New York Jets-They, like Cleveland, needed someone in almost all positions. They got several players with great potential.

My thoughts only and the experts may disagree. Only time will tell.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 29 21:24:22 2017 70.198.54.29)
Comma

Which team has made out the best so
far?



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Comma says:
(Sat Apr 29 21:02:48 2017 75.143.154.113)
Perfect day here in Tennessee. I have been back home all week. While I like my 100 year old government quarters in the District, there is nothing like being at home. If anything flares up, I can always work out of Fort Campbell and let the boss decide when I am needed in D.C.. I am home because I turn 65 tomorrow.

Looking at the NFL Draft so far, it isn't Cleveland that is the Ohio team that has made very questionable picks. I have no idea where the Bengals came up with whom they have chosen. Only time will decide if I am right.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 29 18:14:26 2017 70.198.38.4)
Beautiful day out there!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Apr 29 15:09:15 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Saturday, April 29th 2017 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


Gunther
Wiggins

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Gunther, Wiggins!



Why couldn't you be dealing drugs like normal people?Snyder, 'Choices''

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Comma says:
(Sat Apr 29 14:12:56 2017 75.143.154.113)
A Slayer Draft that has a longggggggggggg way to go!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 29 14:06:47 2017 209.159.254.195)
Good morning beta!

Oohhhh a Slayer draft!!!



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Comma says:
(Sat Apr 29 11:59:27 2017 75.143.154.113)
The Start:

Good morning to all our viewers and welcome to our first Slayer Draft. I am sure that it is fresh in everyone's mind why there is even a need for a draft of slayers. Just in case someone does not understand 'why', here is a overview of why:

1. The 2013 concert slayings outed the slayers to the world. Three slayers, attending a London concert, are slipped something in their drinks. Seventy-one human lives were lost when the slayers, thinking that they were surrounded by blood suckers and demons, went on a killing rampage. Whom can forget poor slayer Mary Ann Rhule, standing in front of three bodies. yelling, 'Go poof you Bas****!'.

2. 2014: The Slayers Council becomes part of the United Nations which, as we all know, caused several major problems:
A. France demanding that the mostly English and American council become diverse cause the Council's senior leadership to step down.
B. The United Nations appoints all new council members. The new council members demands that the Witches Council now report to them. The Witches,order to stay independent, dissolves but goes underground.

More later....



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 29 03:18:31 2017 70.198.51.159)
Wolfguard

The wall, health care reform, tax
reform, repeal of nafta. What trump
campaigned on seemed absurd or not
possible, but it seemingly a
reality.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Apr 29 03:01:25 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Specifics?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 29 02:57:14 2017 70.198.51.159)
Wolfguard

I hadn't thought​ of it that way. I
think a lot of people are facing
situations that seemed only
theoretical or remote before.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Apr 29 01:49:30 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Those that dislike Trump keep imagining scenarios leading to his departure,
but I believe they are fantasizing. Other than death, only one president has
left office before his term expired - Nixon. He did so, because the
Republican leadership convinced him he was going to be impeached. Unless
investigators find solid evidence of Trump conspiring with the Russians,
he'll finish out his first term. While I believe he'll continue talking as
if he'll run a second time, I believe he probably would not because of his
age.

Earlier today on NPR, a British journalist/author spoke well of Trump's
foreign policy tactics. Putin, Assad, and Kim are uncertain how to proceed,
because their actions have been met by force. Xi now appears to be putting
more effort on persuading Kim to behave. Whereas before foreign actors had
been demanding negotiations to get them to the table, they are realizing
they have to first come to the table to negotiate.

A series of American presidents have been circumspect in dealing with North
Korean leaders, because these leaders were thought impulsive and ruthless
and who knew what they might do if pushed. And besides, North Korea was
years away from having nuclear warheads and deliver systems. Those years are
gone. Next year, L.A.! In Trump, Kim is encountering a less circumspect
president. Yeah, we may have to use force. Terrible thing, but they can
avoid it if they behave.

"How many carriers do you have young man?"

Trump also said of Kim, ~ He's a young man who got handed a country and it's
not easy. I can understand that. ~

Another journalist said of North Korea, ~ Without the threat of nuclear
weapons who would care? Who would talk to them?


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Apr 29 01:28:32 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

I believe President Trump said he misses driving himself. Bill Clinton is
quoted as saying, ~ The White House is the crown jewel of the federal penal
system. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 29 01:28:24 2017 70.198.57.148)
Wolfguard

Will trump last four years?



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Maverick says:
(Sat Apr 29 01:11:15 2017 69.244.158.94)




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 29 00:44:55 2017 70.198.52.211)
Test



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 29 00:22:34 2017 209.159.254.195)
I bet Trump realized Presidenting is hard.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 28 23:15:39 2017 209.159.254.195)
home!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 28 20:45:20 2017 4.28.180.2)
DaddyCatALSO,

I believe's the largest volcano in the solar system. OTOH, it's so wide that
it's slope is small so someone 'climbing' it may not even be aware of it.

WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Apr 28 19:17:13 2017 199.127.148.10)
So if Olympus Mons, assuming the maximum diameter, were placed on earth, it would stretch 0.782 of the distance from Albany NY to Richmond VA.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 28 19:13:48 2017 205.141.67.16)
Slow day in the bronze! Where is every off to?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Apr 28 15:09:44 2017 205.141.67.16)
Trivia of the Day for Friday


The Channel between England and France grows about 300 millimeters each year.

Mars has a volcano, Olympus Mons, which is 310-370 miles in diameter and 16 miles high.

The statue The Thinker by Rodin is actually a portrait of the Italian poet Dante.

X-ray technology has shown that there are 3 different versions of the Mona Lisa under the visible one.

A pigs snout is called a gruntle.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Apr 28 12:52:02 2017 209.159.254.195)
Today is Friday, April 28th 2017 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Angel of Doom
Elisabeth Rohm as Lt. Kate Lockley
GoddessInRibbons
ginger
griffin spots
Mrs.Pointy
TLC

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angel of Doom, Elisabeth Rohm, GoddessinRibbons, ginger, griffin spots, Mrs. Pointy, TLC !



You'd never make it. I'd rip your spine out before you got half a step. Those little legs wouldn't be much good without one of those. Glory, 'Blood Ties'

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YayofTheDay says:
(Fri Apr 28 12:32:25 2017 209.159.254.195)
lets have a great big bronze cheer for gypsyrat!

yay gypsyrat!

Thank Joss it's Friday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 28 01:44:23 2017 209.159.254.195)
Comma Ahh!!! Thank you. I had forgotten that the draft is done in rounds!



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Comma says:
(Fri Apr 28 01:37:00 2017 75.143.154.113)
Edited: Fri Apr 28 01:41:40 2017
ChristopherMarlowe: There are six rounds of the NFL Draft. Round 1 is tonight, two and three are tomorrow, and 4-6 are Saturday.

For those Cleveland Browns fans who admit it, Cleveland, next year, has two first round drafts and three second round drafts. That is because of trades this year. If any NFL can blow that many picks, it is the Browns!

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 28 01:20:51 2017 209.159.254.195)
Comma The NFL draft is just the one night, right? I tend just to notice the top pick.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Apr 28 00:27:25 2017 209.159.254.195)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
Question: Where do the fictional cartoon family, the Simpsons, live?
Answer: Springfield

Trivia Geographers: Agent Cooper and Comma!



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Comma says:
(Fri Apr 28 00:26:36 2017 75.143.154.113)
ChristopherMarlowe: Any day that you do not have to use a body bag is non-suck day. Ruff maybe but no sucking.

Second pick of the NFL draft and the ???? moments have started. Can any Chicago Bears' fan explain what Chicago is thinking?

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 27 23:46:06 2017 209.159.254.195)
very bad day at work...I just wanna suck my thumb.


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