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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Dec 4 21:40:10 2017 199.127.148.10)
Interesting frost, or something, at my work this morning this morning. Each blade of grass (except where feet or wheels had gone over it) was completely surrounded in pure white, looking more like snow than ice. same was true of the tops of the dead leaves around here and there (There was even a layer on a sales receipt someone had left on the sidewalk.) Also, some not all of the sidewalks had a snowy layer on them. But the bare ground in between the clumps of grass was completely ice-free and brown.
I liked what they chose for the Jim Nabors salute on ME TV Friday night. Two Gomer centric Andy Griffith ep.s (Gomer's first appearance and his enlistment) then a first s eason ep. from *Gome rPyle USMC* and the 4th seasons ep. where he performs in Washington DC, singing "The Impossible dream" including t he 3rd verse which cover versions never do. Geust appreatrnace sby Roalnd Witners of Charley Chan fmae and a young James B. Sikking.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Dec 4 19:13:17 2017 71.56.125.67)
Trivia Girl,

"A little learning is a dangerous thing;"

(How does it continue?)

Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again..."

(And the rest)

Poem (poetsgraves)


But what is this Pierian Spring? (Wikipedia)


And what might it mean?


"...Thus, Pope is explaining how if you only learn a little it can "intoxicate" you in such a way that makes you feel as though you know a great deal. However, when "drinking largely sobers" you, you become aware of how little you truly know..." (From the above Wikipedia article)



WG



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OldManFan says:
(Mon Dec 4 17:30:44 2017 24.3.106.169)
Trivia Girl - it certainly wasn't Donald Trump... Alexander Pope.

OMF



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Dec 4 16:33:17 2017 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
Alexander Pope



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Dec 4 16:23:17 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Quotes
Question: Who once said "A little learning is a dangerous thing."?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Dec 4 16:03:47 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Monday, December 4th 2017 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Big Wise
Gray Mouser
Jenn
neonate
OzLet #1

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Big Wise, Gray Mouser, Jenn, neonate, OzLet #1!



Simon: You're out of your mind. Early: That's between me and my mind.'Objects In Space''

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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Dec 4 14:41:42 2017 73.58.128.92)
ChristopherMarlowe--Yes, her
50th anniversary special reminded me
of how funny that show was--though I
ask myself, if it was debuting today
would it last? Do young people
today find that kind of humor funny?


Yay! buffyrat!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Dec 4 13:50:26 2017 174.217.44.81)
Yay buffyrat!!

Birthdays and trivia maybe delayed,
my PC is being updated and that
might take awhile!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Dec 4 12:39:15 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for buffyrat!

yay buffyrat!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Dec 4 03:02:17 2017 209.159.255.231)
Carol Burnett..still the funniest woman on the planet!



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Comma says:
(Mon Dec 4 02:57:33 2017 75.143.154.113)
I thought that I heard a mouse fart.....I did! I did!

Very quiet in here.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Dec 3 22:35:49 2017 209.159.255.231)
Yoo Hoo! Anyone around?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Dec 3 14:14:14 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Sunday, December 3rd 2017 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Contessa Beth
Nya
Slayerette 2000
Teardrop

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Contessa Beth, Nya, Slayerette 2000, Teardrop!



Slay-er? Chosen One. She who hangs out a lot in cemeteries? You're kidding. Ask around. Look it up: Slayer comma The.Buffy, 'Doomed''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Dec 3 03:07:26 2017 209.159.255.231)
And now I'm watching an Excellent two hour premiere of Agents of SHIELD. Time Travel! Kree!!! Kick-assery!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Dec 2 21:43:29 2017 209.159.255.231)
Yawn...I seem to have slept most of
the day away!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Dec 2 16:40:12 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Saturday, December 2nd 2017 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


Anderson
Lil Pia
Safaribrother
SOLO22
Steven-The Scottish One
Keith Szarabajka as Holtz
Verinthalia
Werewolf, Where Wolf?

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Anderson, Lil Pia, Safaribrother, SOLO22
Steven-The Scottish One, Keith Szarabajka, Verinthalia, Werewolf, Where Wolf?!



And the thing is, I like my evil like I like my men: evil. You know, straight up, black hat, tied to the train tracks, soon my electro-ray will destroy metropolis BAD. Buffy, 'Pangs''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Dec 2 15:03:19 2017 209.159.255.231)
Good morning beta!



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lostinamerica says:
(Sat Dec 2 13:21:05 2017 73.58.128.92)
Happy Birthday k8cre8!


Yay! Blade the Vampire Hunter!



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Dec 2 03:48:55 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Surveillance is given here. The takeaway is anyone with a bit of power or
influence and who has secrets assumes the Russian government knows the
secrets. And knowing this, behaves so not to anger the Russian government.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Dec 2 02:32:55 2017 174.217.39.22)
Wolfguard

Some sort of government
surveillance of the people seem to
be common in a lot of countries



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Dec 2 00:17:01 2017 4.28.180.2)
"...the Russians had their intelligence service, and they had developed
powerful relationships and sources in all these countries both during and
after their occupation. They had files on everyone and knew all the things
people might want to hide. The Russians did not have to be overt blackmailers.
Things were much more subtle than that. The person knew what he had done and
he knew Russian intelligence, and that it had a record of it. There was a kind
of self-discipline imposed. This was not the case before 2008 and certainly
not before 2001. There was a sense that this was all in the past. But as
Europe ceased to be a certainty, and as Russia played its hand very lightly,
it was more prudent to cooperate. This did not effect the average person, but
anyone who was involved in politics, labor, or business and it was enough to
influence decisions..."

Flash Points: The Emerging Crisis in Europe by George Friedman,
copyright 2015, p.182


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 1 23:16:27 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Thanks for the research! I wasn't totally aware of SD law on this, but it doesn't surprise me.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 1 21:47:54 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Just been reading FindLaw's article on 'stand your ground", "castle
doctrine", and "duty to retreat". The last refers to the law requiring people
to retreat from attacks when possible.

It listed ~24 states that have some form of 'stand your ground'. South Dakota
was listed. Around 17 states were listed as having some form of 'duty of
retreat'. North Dakota was one.

California was on neither list. Second Amendment supporters tend to view
California as anti-gun. Some refer to it as the ~ People's Republic of
California. Given this I'd bet the relevant self-defense laws in California
probably favor 'duty to retreat' behaviors over 'stand your ground' ones.
Takeaway - don't guide your actions on general principles, learn your state's
laws.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 1 19:14:43 2017 71.56.125.67)
Christopher Marlowe,

I'd have to research it. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 1 17:45:11 2017 174.217.41.21)
Wolfguard

Stand your ground is such a mine
field, I am not sure lawyers fully
understand it!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Dec 1 14:19:59 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Friday, December 1st 2017 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


Gile's Lady
PLDGEMSTER

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Gile's Lady, PLDGEMSTER!



Wesley: I stabbed you. I should apologize for that. But I'm honestly not sure how. I think it'll just be awkward. Gunn: Good call. Wesley: Okay.'Time Bomb''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 1 14:11:52 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay blade the vampire hunter!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Dec 1 12:03:01 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for blade the vampire hunter!

yay blade the vampire hunter!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 1 04:54:07 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

As I understand it ...

In the United States a person has the right to use force to defend their
life.

However

Force is suppose to be the last resort. A person is usually required to
avoid conflict, to flee, to have their back to the wall before they can use
force.

However

Usually a person in their home is not required to flee1 OTOH you
do not have the right to use deadly force against someone on your property
who is not threatening you with an attack. If you tell them to leave and
they do not leave, then you call the police.

Some folks believe if a person is going about their business in a legal
manner then they should not have to flee a person threatening them or
attacking them. Consequently they should be able to stand their ground and
defend themselves. Some states have recognized this right.


1 Though in some cases it may be the best move. You do not want
to become a captive in a house, including your house.


I AM NOT A LAWYER


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 1 04:18:39 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I'm curious about the 'it is illegal to shoot a trepasser' as I've heard of many 'Stand Your Ground' that appear to allow just that. I can understand the others, though.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 1 03:33:59 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

I may have posted this before, but one professor's short-hand description
of the human brain: size of a coconut, shape of a walnut, color of liver,
consistency of butter (do not remember if he said warm or cold butter *g*).

From other sources:

The "thinking" part of the human brain is the cerebral cortex. Smoothed
out, it's area would be a little under 20" x 20" and its thickness ~ 1/4
inch (crude conversion on my part of 1/2 centimeter - there are ~ 2.5 cm to
an inch).

The reason human brains are all crinkly is because that 20"x 20" cortex has
to be crammed into that coconut size skull - that's also housing other
components of the human brain.


Gun-Tests ran an article, "10 Things Gun Owners Get Wrong about
Their Self Defense Rights" by attorney Michelle Byington. The organizes the
article into 10 myths and elaborates on each one. Here are a few of
them - without the elaboration.


4. It's legal to shoot a trespasser (not)

6. Shooting to wound is better than shooting to kill (not)

7. Criminals get arrested; not good guys (not)

9. A person cannot be sued civilly for acting in self-defense (not)

10. Warning shots are a great idea (not)


Since I pulled these from the article, I HAVE ADDED (NOT) to make it clear
she is saying these are misconceptions some gun owners may have about self-
defense. I will restate the above as true statements (without her
elaboration).

4. It is illegal to shoot a trespasser.

6. Good people, innocent people, get arrested (an arrest is not a
conviction)

9. If you wound or kill someone and TPTB conclude it was justifiable, you
can still be sued in civil court by the person's relatives.

10. Outside designated areas, firing a gun is usually a criminal offense.
1 In part, because fired bullets end of somewhere.


6. It's a Hollywood fantasy to believe you can put a bullet in someone in a
such a place that you can be certain it will "only" wound and not kill.
2 Annie Oakley may shoot off earlobes, but we are not of her
skill.


1 There are states that allow more freedom in where one can
shoot. I've a friend who now and then travels to Idaho. When he asked where
he could go to shoot he was told, drive a mile outside town and just make
sure no person or animal is downrange. When I lived in Tennessee, several
decades ago, there was an abandon quarry and several ravines a couple miles
from the house. Shooting in Atlanta is confined to indoor ranges. Drive 50
miles or so and you can find someone outdoor ranges.

2 If you shoot someone, the DA's office is going to assume you
meant to kill that person.




WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 1 03:12:57 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I learned that I
may have become lactose intolerant!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Dec 1 02:53:39 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Let me look at my notes and ponder. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 1 02:09:27 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard What have you
learned lately?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Dec 1 00:55:50 2017 209.159.255.231)
Home!



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cmarlowe says:
(Thu Nov 30 23:15:16 2017 107.167.127.100)
i will be offlline for an hour or so



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Nov 30 21:25:45 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: History
Question: What US President had the childhood nickname of 'Dutch'?
Answer: Ronald Reagan

Trivia Historians: notsoShygirl, OldManFan!



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Comma says:
(Thu Nov 30 19:07:56 2017 168.244.4.51)
Jim Nabors has passed away. May he R.I.P.

Comma



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Nov 30 16:05:31 2017 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
Ronald Reagan. Also known as Ronnie, The Jelly Bean Man, The Great Communicator, The Gipper, Ronald the Right and the Teflon President.



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OldManFan says:
(Thu Nov 30 16:04:01 2017 24.3.106.169)
Trivia Girl - Ronald Reagan.

OMF



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Nov 30 15:41:16 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Thursday,November 30th 2017 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Blossom the tag slaying kitten
Dimples
k8cre8
Tana

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Blossom, Dimples, k8cre8, Tana!



River: They weren't cows inside. They were waiting to be, but they forgot. Now they see the sky and they remember what they are. Mal: Is it bad that what she said made perfect sense to me?'Safe'

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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Nov 30 15:26:53 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: History
Question: What US President had the childhood nickname of 'Dutch'?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Nov 30 15:21:01 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard I put "Heather Chandler" into Wikipedia and it came u p with 2 references



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Nov 30 14:37:16 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay humvee!


Happy CD Thursday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Nov 30 12:21:05 2017 73.58.128.92)
Yay! Humvee!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Nov 30 12:06:15 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for humvee!

yay humvee!


Happy CD Thursday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Nov 30 03:44:39 2017 73.58.128.92)
Happy Birthday DaddyCatALSO!


Yay! Jaan Quidam!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Nov 30 02:58:27 2017 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Thu Nov 30 03:01:32 2017
Christopher Marlowe,

People find it hard to see fault in themselves. They will blame the Democrats
just as the Democrats blamed the Republicans for any of Obama's failures.

ETA Example: Didn't Trump immediately issue immigration bans? What happened?
Liberals challenged ban before "liberal" judges. (I'm not stating a personal
belief. I'm offering how I think Trump supporters saw it)



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Nov 30 02:55:53 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard They certainly
didnt' have a problem with Trump,
himself a rich man. But part of
his promise was that he would
make them better off. If they
don't feel like they are getting
the deal they were promised, will
they really stick with him, even
if they continue to like what he
says?

How long before self-interest
actually kicks in?



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Nov 30 02:20:05 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

It does cut both ways. During the election Hillary called some of Trump's
supporters the "deplorables". She did so, because she wasn't going to win
their vote and it pleased her supporters.

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Nov 30 02:08:00 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

President Trump appears to be tending his base as opposed to leading the
nation. He may have come into office intending to lead, but found his style
and/or the "loyal" opposition make it difficult to do. He also seems
inclined to view all disagreements as fights.

I believe his base has no problem with this attitude. The question is what
work can be done through it. One writer said some people who voted for
Trump did so as a way of giving the finger to the people who they see as
social snobs.1 If so, they did, but that may be their only
enjoyment they get from Mr Trump's administration.

1 David Brooks said many Trump supporters have no problem with
rich people. They do have a problem with people who want to tell them how
to belief, think, and act. Who are they? The professional class who tend to
vote Democrat. I recall one Trump supporter who said, ~ The president talks
the way I talk. Another added, ~ He says what I think.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Nov 30 01:39:59 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Stir, stir, stir

*G*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Nov 30 01:30:53 2017 209.159.255.231)
99% of Trump's media issues would
go away if he would just stop
talking or tweeting. For all his
talk of 'fake news' I can't see how
essentially making Fox News 'state-
sponsored' network run from the
White house would suddenly be a
beacon of truth.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Nov 30 00:03:38 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who was Kate Lockley's
dad?
Answer: Trevor Lockley

Trivia Police Chief: notsoShyGirl!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Nov 29 20:16:57 2017 209.159.255.231)
Mid-afternoon drive by. Not that I'm doing all that much!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Nov 29 19:35:57 2017 71.56.125.67)
DaddyCatALSO,

"Chuck"? Know the show, but not the tie. I've not seen Heathers, but knew the premise so used the character, Heather Chandler.


WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Nov 29 16:04:20 2017 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
Trevor Lockley



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Nov 29 15:30:59 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who was Kate Lockley's dad?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Nov 29 15:28:27 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard As I've never seen either *Heathers* or *Chuck*, that joke eluded me *g.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Nov 29 14:49:39 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Wednesday, November 29th 2017 C.E.

We have ELEVEN (11) Birthdays!


Anoimois
Arrow6
Beldin's Dad
DaddyCatALSO
elfie
Goddess Minerva
Laurence
Midnight
Ski
Southern Girl
Tessa

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Anoimois, Arrow6, Beldin's Dad, DaddyCatALSO
elfie, Goddess Minerva, Laurence, Midnight, Ski, Southern Girl, Tessa!



Does anybody else miss the Mayor? 'I just want to be a big snake.'Xander, 'Primeval''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Nov 29 14:38:35 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay jaan quidam!

deadguy qod, I can't see Angel do any kind of shopping. I think he'd just pay someone to do it.


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Nov 29 13:01:54 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for jaan quidam!

yay jaan quidam!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale mall - 6579 days without a rocket launcher attack

does angel go christmas shopping (or any kind of shopping)?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Nov 29 03:28:56 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

DAWN
We destroyed the shopping mall? I fought on the wrong side.

Chosen

*g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Nov 29 02:49:45 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Shopping spree!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Nov 29 02:31:17 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

GILES
I don't understand. What did this?

CORDELIA
Angel

...

WILLOW
The First is scrunched. What do you think we should do Cordy?

FAITH
Yeah, you're not the one and only chosen anymore. You gotta live like a
person. How does that feel?

DAWN
Yeah Cordy. What are we going to do now?

CORDELIA
(a smile slowly spreads across her face)


And that's the way it was in bizarro-May 2003 *g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Nov 29 01:22:18 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard If it was Cordy the Vampire Slayer, do you think her path would have been different?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Nov 29 00:11:40 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydales' Trivial Pursuit

Category: buffy
Question: What was the name of the werewolf hunter in Phases?
Answer: Cain

Trivia Gods: notsoShyGirl, Comma, wolfgaurd!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Nov 28 21:49:11 2017 4.28.180.2)
DaddyCatALSO,


Don't know about Ned, but Cordelia's youngest aunt was Heather Chandler. :)

WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Nov 28 21:34:36 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Trivia Girl In that spirit, I finally got to reading *Tarzan Alive* in '03 and I started wondering if Cordelia was descended from Ned Land.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Nov 28 21:18:03 2017 4.28.180.2)
Trivia Girl,

Caine

Little know fact. He was the great-great-grandson of Kwai Chang Caine and his
first name was "Bruce".

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Nov 28 20:42:35 2017 209.159.255.231)
Comma How are you doing?



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Comma says:
(Tue Nov 28 20:14:56 2017 168.244.5.62)
Trivial Girl: Gib Cain.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Nov 28 16:48:11 2017 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
Cain



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Nov 28 15:57:31 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydales' Trivial Pursuit

Category: buffy
Question: What was the name of the werewolf hunter in Phases?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Nov 28 15:15:13 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is November 28th 2017 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


East Side Kid
Lady of Buffdom
Lady Pol
Myst
Perchewit
quinne_
Rogue
scoobie2

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to East Side Kid, Lady of Buffdom, Lady Pol
Myst, Perchewit, quinne_, Rogue, scoobie2!



Willow: Yikes. Imagine the things...Buffy: No! Stop imagining! All of you! Xander: Already got the visual.
'Intervention''


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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Nov 28 14:38:54 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay lovely poet!

deadguy qod

I think Xander would be the easiest to shop for, he would like anything!


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Nov 28 12:37:56 2017 73.58.128.92)
Agent Cooper--I Googled--it wasn't Elsa but another lion used in the films
that George Adamson was retraining to be wild that had to be put down after
attacking someone :(

What is really strange is that both were murdered in separate incidents--Joy by
one of her servants and George by bandits much later :o


Belated Yay! Aussiebulldog!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Nov 28 11:11:31 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for lovely poet

yay lovely poet!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

naughty or nice - the sunnydale christmas store

which of the scoobies is the easiest to shop for?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Nov 28 07:18:30 2017 71.56.125.67)
Christopher Marlowe,

News outlets choose how they frame a story. One choice would have been broadcasting Trump's thanks the veterans and do a backstory on what they did during the war. Another choice was to broadcast the thanks and then analyze and debate Trump 's jab at Warren, because of the use of "Pocahontas". They chose the latter - Trump didn't.

What makes this news anymore? This is how he acts, it's his personality. His supporters either approve or ignore it, because who cares?. His detractors either get upset or hold it up as another reason why he has to go.

Democrats' focus should be less on Trump and more on the voters they lost to Trump. How do you get them back?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Nov 28 05:31:41 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Its the talk of the town for sure. Trump has use the 'Pocahontas' comment many times before. Given that Warren has already been castigated for claiming Native ancestry with no proof, I'm not sure why Trump continues his schoolyard taunts.

Native American groups certainly aren't happy over Trump's comment no matter when/where he's used it.

I can't imagine the code-talkers saying anything though, either at the ceremony itself or afterwards, but it was supposed to be their day, not Trump's.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Nov 28 04:26:09 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

CNN or "Press Pool" played Trump's entire statement. He was thanking and
complimenting the Navajo men who had been "code-talkers" during WWII. His use
of "Pocahontas" was a swipe at Senator Elizabeth Warren.1 Some will
see this as ignorant, insensitive, or insulting, while others will see it as
peripheral to the core message - We thank you for your service. You're a great
bunch of guys. The only people whose opinion really matter were those
servicemen and I don't know if they have said anything.


1 I believe she once make a claim of having Indian ancestry (I
don't know if she referenced a particular tribe).


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Nov 28 04:03:06 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfgaurd I was reading about the 'Pocahontas' comment. Trump's spokesperson said it wasn't intended as an insult. Well, it wasn't a compliment.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Nov 28 03:49:06 2017 4.28.180.2)
Hereabouts

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Nov 28 02:24:49 2017 209.159.255.231)
I am hereabouts!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Nov 28 00:15:43 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Literature
QuestioN: What animal was the subject of the book Born Free?
answer: Elsa the lioness

Trivia Leader of the Pride: notsoShyGirl!
Trivia Twanger: Agent Cooper!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Nov 27 22:26:11 2017 209.159.255.231)
Still slightly under the weather, feeling as gray as the sky outside.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Nov 27 22:25:03 2017 4.28.180.2)
DaddyCatALSO,

I'm a fan of the traditional definition of hero as someone who risk their own
life saving or trying to save another's life. This definition doesn't speak to
compensation. Is it less heroic if the hero is paid?

WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Nov 27 21:36:09 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard More like a Doc Savage villain who wants to save the world by taking it over for the good of everyone.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Nov 27 21:25:20 2017 4.28.180.2)
DaddyCatALSO,

So the psychiatrist wants to save the world and be rewarded for it? Is this
being evil? Perhaps he's just a mercenary?

WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Nov 27 20:29:04 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Sorry, no, "he" the psychiatrist bad guy (in what I'm sure is the world's only Buffyverse/Doctor In the House crossover) needs to know 2 of the more common languages of the Dead Lands because he wants to unlock the scroll's power, so he can sav e humanity from the coming menace and be rewarded for it. And a t th e need, when the possessed Giles teleports away, the bad guy cackles, "I told you, I *told* you."



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Agent Cooper of the Six and One Half Strings says:
(Mon Nov 27 19:37:10 2017 165.225.38.71)
Trivia Girl: I don't have an answer, only a song.

AGENT COOPER - Enters, stage right. *loud obnoxious and off key singing*

"BORNNN FREEEE.....

AS FREE AS THE WIND BLOWWSSSS...

AS FREE AS THE GRASS GROWSSSSS...."

You're welcome. Hey, didn't that lion actually end up eating somebody? I remember reading something like that. I think it turned on one of the preserve people or something in real life.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Nov 27 19:33:14 2017 71.56.125.67)
"'What is the difference between the U.S. Steel Corporation, as it was organized by Mr. Morgan, and the Department of Steel as it might be organized by the government?' asked George Perkins, one of Morgan's partners. Well-regulated monopoly capitalism would be 'socialism of the highest, best, and most ideal sort,' he contended."

From Wealth Secrets of the One Percent, Sam Wilkin, p.143


George Perkins (Wikipedia)



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Nov 27 19:19:56 2017 71.56.125.67)
DaddyCatALSO,

He = Giles?


Maverick,

My email address is above.


WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Nov 27 16:49:32 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Of course, the first sting is he had an a genda, he needs to learn as many languages of the Dead Lands as he can in order to translate an ancient scroll and unlock its power. He gets stung himself when the Scoobies find a way around the spell he's using to keep them from working together to break free. Then they get stung when their spell allows Mephistopheles, "the spirit that ever denies," to finally possess Giles after hanging around sending him ba dmessages for 4 years.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Nov 27 16:22:20 2017 206.124.19.186)
[]Trivia Girl[/b]
Elsa the lioness



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Nov 27 15:17:25 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Literature
QuestioN: What animal was the subject of the book Born Free?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Nov 27 15:08:05 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Monday, November 27th 2017 C.E.

ONE (1) Birthday!


Kathrine Anna (SweePer & FASTEDDIE's daughter)

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Kathrine Anna!



like books. I just don't want to take on too much. Do they have an introduction to the modern blurb? Buffy, 'The Freshman''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Nov 27 14:52:51 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay aussiebulldog!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Nov 27 12:36:22 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for aussiebulldog!

yay aussiebulldog!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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Maverick says:
(Mon Nov 27 04:31:12 2017 68.51.139.52)

Belated Birthday Happies to Rebecca Lynn from Yesterday


Rebecca Lynn is Maverick Fanfic Recommender #2, in Good Standing.


Birthday Happies to -mere-

who used to post on our Board, but who is now -here-. Watch out for the Evil; you've been warned. I mentioned Travis Fimmel before (related to "The Vikings" on The History Channel.) He WAS previously the star of the TV Series that -mere- was a co-producer and writer for about Tarzan. If I remember correctly, in it Fimmel used to walk around in his bare feet (which must have been tough.)


Maverick


Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas




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Maverick says:
(Mon Nov 27 00:42:32 2017 68.51.139.52)
Christopher Marlowe: Well, it could be THAT (for instance, the doctors have always claimed that every guy will get Prostate Cancer. Your (okay, my) odds of getting it is my age. So, if you get to be 80 years old, you have a 80% chance of having or having had prostate cancer.) It COULD be an age thing, although I've never seen it claimed EVERYONE will get Dementia. On the other hand treatments(?) for various heart ailments call for the taking of Statin Drugs, which can reduce the amount of cholesterol your body makes at night. I read somewhere that your brain needs cholesterol to make new memories. So, perhaps we're starving our brains to try to prevent blocked arteries. Now, there's good and bad cholesterol (in terms of clogging arteries) and I've also seen it claimed that bad cholesterol is also bad for the brain, and good is good. As per usual they're just not there yet with knowing enough AND the pharmaceutical industry continues to push the doctors to push the pills (statins, etc.)


Maverick


Let There Be Peace On Earth




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Nov 26 23:12:08 2017 209.159.255.231)
Maverick Might be due to the face that people are living longer?



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Maverick says:
(Sun Nov 26 20:17:17 2017 68.51.139.52)
Trivia Girl: Truvia (well, Stevia is the answer) The Question: What substance are they investigating as a possible cure/treatment for Lyme Disease?


Christopher Marlowe: Incompetent? Well, Trump IS an incompetent politician, but not an incompetent person (I think of him as free-wheeling.) He may very well, yet, figure out the pathology and methodology of the politician, but I almost hope he doesn't. A politician is a smarmy, scuzzy, unctuous, disingenuous person who is willing to purposefully mislead others for his own personal gain (someone like Chuck Schumer comes to mind.) Obama is more an ideologue than a politician but he had plenty of welcomed political help in promoting his toxic agendas. Anyone reading the list of 150 Trump accomplishments (I provided a day or two ago) can be optimistic that the economy will improve to the extent that there will be a positive job environment, unlike what Obama left in his wake.


I've watched three seasons of the History Channel's series of "The Vikings" and think it's fabulous. Travis Fimmel (anyone remember how and where he intersects the Buffy world?) is magnetic as Ragnar Lothbroke (sp?) I've also been enjoying Jeffrey Dean Morgan as "Negan" in the DVD's of Season Seven of "The Walking Dead."


Wolfguard: Our impasse does not give me any pleasure so I would like it to end. If you are willing. I DO have one condition, however. Let me know if you even want to hear it. I can understand if you are no longer interested. spoiler: Just put your e-mail addy in your next post and I'll propose it to you.


Unfinished discussion (might be useful information.) In the UK, Dementia has finally passed Heart Disease as the largest cause of premature deaths. How do dementia and heart disease compete for this "honor"? Well, it's confusing, but consider what the brain is mostly composed of: cholesterol.


Good News: There ARE still some Radio Shack stores open.


Maverick


Christmas Is Coming Too early?




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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Nov 26 19:17:46 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Sunday, November 26th 2017 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


~black~magick~
Fangs
Jennie
-mere-
Psyche
redhead

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to ~black~magick~, Fangs, Jennie, -mere-, Psyche, redhead!



I go online sometimes, but everyone's spelling is really bad. It's... depressing.Tara, 'I Was Made To Love You'


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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Nov 26 15:23:03 2017 209.159.255.231)
Good morning beta!



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Nov 26 06:58:13 2017 71.56.125.67)
Christopher Marlowe,

I know who. *g*


DaddyCatALSO,

O Resurrection, where is thy sting? *g*



WG



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white wings says:
(Sun Nov 26 04:23:47 2017 70.112.135.184)
Christopher Marlowe - Sometimes unproductivity makes one feel good. I
hope you enjoy it, because I'm pretty sure it is unusual for you. *g*

I was unusually productive today, in that I got all the Christmas decorations
from the various places I had put them away, and brought them at least to the
rooms where they will need to be set up. Tomorrow I plan to do the same thing
at another house. For me, this amount of activity is unusual, but it feels
like a good thing to have done (on occasion). ;-)



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Nov 26 00:50:39 2017 209.159.255.231)
Didn't do much today..tomorrow will be less productive.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Sat Nov 25 21:15:26 2017 216.164.173.90)
Christoper Marlowe PRetty
much. My landlady w as too sick
for us to visit her relatives
like we usually do but she made
soem chicken, winter mix, and
mashed potatoes (i didn't eat any
fo those).


,wolfguard I think the
only time in my fics where I
really address my serial
resurector" thing in any depth is
in "New MExico Rocky Mountain
High" where the Council
psychiatrist (with a n ulterior
motive) asks Giles if he can do a
therapy session with Jenny, Tara,
Anya, Jonathan, Fred, and Wesley
to help them evaluate their
experience. It doesn't faze him
when Giles vetoes Jonathan's
participation and insists he,
Xander, and Willow be on the trip
as well.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Nov 25 15:42:51 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Saturday, November 25th 2017 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!



Rebecca Lynn
Shelly
SoAnya


Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Rebecca, Lynn, Shelly, SoAnya!



Mal: He calls back, you keep them occupied. Wash: What do I do, shadow puppets?
'The Message''


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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Nov 25 15:19:39 2017 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Sat Nov 25 15:25:55 2017
Good morning beta! Small Business Saturday!

wolfguard Reading and thinking!

ETA

keep in mind who I was responding to, who apparently is an exceptionally true believer. Your points are well-made...but....youknowwho *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Nov 25 03:30:36 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

All the below should not be seen as an endorsement of President Trump or
his policies. Other than trying to get along with other countries, I don't
favor any of his policies. That said, thinking him a fool did not prevent
him from winning the election.

A couple times the electoral college has given us a president who did not
win the popular vote. I cannot count the number of times during the
campaign when a learned commentator ran the possible pathways to victory
open to Clinton and Trump each time ending with how little chance there was
for Trump. Got that wrong. How so? It needs to be studied.

I think the people who are true-believers in Trump are not going to see as
failures what Democrats see as failures. Mainstream Republicans will
probably weigh Trump's record based on the Democrat's field and potential
Republican challengers. The wedge for Democrats are those people who voted
for Trump, because they were tired of run-of-the-mill candidates. They
swung for the fence. In a couple years will they see that as a home-run or
a strike-out?


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Nov 25 02:46:12 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

The following is from Wikipedia's article on President Polk.


"...Scholars have ranked him favorably for his ability to promote and achieve
the major items on his presidential agenda. However, he has also been
criticized for leading the country into war against Mexico and for
exacerbating sectional divides...

Polk is considered by many the last exceptional president of the preCivil War
era, having met during his four-year term every major domestic and foreign
policy goal set during his campaign and transition to office. After
threatening war, he reached a settlement with the United Kingdom over the
disputed Oregon Country, whereby the territory was divided along the 49th
parallel. Polk achieved a sweeping victory in the MexicanAmerican War, which
resulted in the cession by Mexico of nearly all the American Southwest..."


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Nov 25 02:36:05 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

What I remember candidate Trump saying on the campaign trail:

1. Build the Wall / Don't let just anyone enter the US

2. End unfair trade treaties

3. Bring manufacturing jobs back

4. End "Obamacare"

5. Obliterate IS

6. Excepting 5, don't go looking for trouble overseas.

7. Wouldn't it be nice if the US and Russia could get along?

8. Bring Wall Street under thumb (and I know how to do it!)

9. Drain the swamp


Assuming the above is an accurate listing, I imagine his voters will
support him again to the extent they see him achieving the above.



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Nov 25 02:16:25 2017 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Sat Nov 25 03:34:04 2017
Christopher Marlowe,

History doesn't prove, but as Mark Twain said, It (can) rhyme. *g*

Do you really believe there are "absolutely no barrier" to getting elected?

Is he really the most incompetent US president ever? How many Americans
could list the names of at least half the men who have been president -
much less how well they performed in office? Seriously? *g*

For Trump to win a re-election, he has to achieve at least the following
feats:

1 - Produce a foreign policy success.1

2 - Prevent a foreign policy failure.

3 - Enable at least one major domestic policy/program.2

4 - Maintain social order, i.e. no large-scale bloody riots.

5 - Not have significant inflation or a recession happening during the
election year.


1 All American voters do not have to agree that the policy is a
success. Success is achieving something the president and his party agree
needs achieved. For Obama it was withdrawing military forces from Iraq and
restoring some countries' good-will towards the US (as evidenced in the
being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize).

2 As with a foreign policy success, success is making something
happen you and your supporters want to happen. For Obama, the ACA.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Nov 25 01:46:48 2017 209.159.255.231)
Did everyone enjoy their Thanksgiving?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Nov 24 23:51:25 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Phobias
Question What do you fear when you have erythrophobia?
Answer: blushing

Points for Trying...Maverick!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Nov 24 21:41:10 2017 174.217.16.243)
Maverick

Trump is tremendously incompetent,
bigly incompetent even! That is no
absolutely no barrier to getting
elected, as history has proven!



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Maverick says:
(Fri Nov 24 18:27:43 2017 68.51.139.52)
Edited: Fri Nov 24 18:29:10 2017
Trivia Girl: Fear of the Eurythmics (Dave Stewart and Annie Lennox)


Christopher Marlowe: No, the incompetent one is the one who loses; that's how THAT works. Suggest you don't use illogic like that on job interviews.


lostinamerica: Say again.


Maverick


Walking on Broken Glass




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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Nov 24 16:21:38 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Phobias
Question What do you fear when you have erythrophobia?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Nov 24 15:12:58 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Friday, November 24th 2017 C.E.
Black Friday!

We have TWO(2) Birthdays!


AngelStarr
Chiwawau

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to AngelStarr, Chiwawau!



This girl at school? She told me that gelatin is made from ground-up cow's feet and that every time you eat Jell-O there's some cow out there limping around without any feet. But I told her that I'm sure the cow is dead before they cut its feet off, right? Dawn, 'Listening to Fear''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Nov 24 14:14:22 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay amorphia!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Nov 24 12:06:36 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for amorphia!

yay amorphia!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Nov 24 12:03:21 2017 73.58.128.92)
ChristopherMarlowe--Sorry,
knew I'd be busy Thanksgiving Day!


Trivia Girl--My favorite
memory about turkeys was when my
husband's brother-in-law went
turkey hunting and didn't even
hear a turkey. We live near woods
and see turkeys fairly often--one
day one was on the stone wall less
than 10 feet from our house, so we
took a picture, added an
appropriate comment, and sent it
to him. He was not amused :)



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Nov 24 11:54:28 2017 73.58.128.92)
ChristopherMarlowe--Sorry,
knew I'd be busy Thanksgiving Day!


Trivia Girl--My favorite
memory about turkeys was when my
husband's brother-in-law went
turkey hunting and didn't even
hear a turkey. We live near woods
and see turkeys fairly often--one
day one was on the stone wall less
than 10 feet from our house, so we
took a picture, added an
appropriate comment, and sent it
to him. He was not amused :)



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Nov 24 04:56:56 2017 209.159.255.231)
Maverick No need for anybody to try to make Trump look incompetent, Trump IS incompetent and has been proving that all on his own since he launched his presidential campaign.



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Maverick says:
(Fri Nov 24 04:30:21 2017 68.51.139.52)
Edited: Fri Nov 24 04:59:49 2017

Happy Thanksgiving, Bronzers. You have much to be thankful for.


Okay, the true story of my mom's pumpkin pies. She had an old recipe book and every year she made them exactly by that book. They were incredibly spicy and tasty and fragrant and no one could resist having more than one piece. The only problem was that afterwards that day, after eating the pie, several of us would wake up around 2:00 in the morning and sit on the edge of our beds and hold our chest and gasp for breaths, trying to take deep breaths but seemingly unable to. A scary thing. This is what it's like to experience heartburn, in case you've never been so afflicted. BUT, see, the thing was, that she made those pies every year around Thanksgiving and the promise of heartburn never stopped any of us from putting ourselves through the suffering thing. For 20+ years. That's just how good they were. Explanation: Several other bakers thought her recipe called for too much clove spice.


Christopher Marlowe: As proof of how controlled and biased the media is, I offer 150 Trump Accomplishments in 300 days. You'll never see any of this info reported (unless it's given a vicious negative slant.) They're too busy trying to make Trump look dangerously incompetent and trying to set him up for impeachment. As you search for a new job, though, it might be helpful to realize that the economy is quickly improving. P.S. Megan Follows IS the definitive Anne; accept no substitutes.


Maverick


True




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white wings says:
(Fri Nov 24 03:15:58 2017 70.112.135.184)
wolfguard - I'm not certain that can be made comprehensible except
through the looking glass, and highly suspicious that if it actually has meaning
the deciphering of which requires a lot of attention to be paid to situational
definitions of specific words, it may not be worth it my attitude about new
project management systems
. *eg*

But if it keeps you young at heart, have at it. Well, maybe leave me out of it.
;-)

I hope you had a good Thanksgiving.

Christopher Marlowe - No freckles? Have they no makeup artists? The
freckles were important.

I hope the turkey tasted as good as it looked.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Nov 24 02:01:40 2017 209.159.255.231)
Watching a new adaptation of Anne of Green Gables. No freckles, that's a travesty!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Nov 24 01:36:36 2017 4.28.180.2)
White Wings,

I shall counter with the following observation ...

(1) 4 figures

(2) 4 major premises x 4 minor premises x 4 conclusions = 64 moods

(3) (4 figures) x (64 moods) = 256 categorical syllogisms


... and the question, which ones are valid forms?

Where is Clever Hans now, eh?

*g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Nov 24 00:14:07 2017 209.159.255.231)
Back from Thanksgiving with mom. the Turkey was almost too beautiful to eat!



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white wings says:
(Thu Nov 23 22:45:08 2017 70.112.135.184)

Happy
Thanksgiving



Belated Yay ergo sum!

Yay lurking little feet!

Happy Birthday Mia, Selenay, and Will!

wolfguard - I guess it would be speciesist to deny your right to
identify with dogs, at least while doing age computations. Such an
identification should prevent it from being considered cultural appropriation
(I think). *g*

lostinamerica - I fear you'll have to find your own coping techniques,
then. The head in the sand trick might work as well as any. ;-)

Trivia Girl - Fun facts about wattles: if a turkey sneaks up behind
one and pecks one hard on the rear end, and one rises about a foot off
the ground, turns, and boots the turkey in the rear, and chases the same up a
hill and into the hen house, the wattle will turn dead white whenever it sees
one for about a week. Until it tries to peck one on the rear end again.


The ritual sacrifice, with pie, has been concluded and cleaned up. The family
has scattered each to his or her preferred form of digestion. The yam sham
was mighty tasty. *g* zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Nov 23 21:34:55 2017 4.28.180.2)
Belated Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

What is your favorite part of thanksgiving: turkey, pie, football, etc.?


I like mushy peas. *g*


WG



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Comma says:
(Thu Nov 23 21:00:37 2017 75.143.154.113)
Trivial Girl: I prefer my Wild Turkey over two ice cubes.

Comma



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Nov 23 15:25:13 2017 209.159.255.231)
Turkey Trivia!

Whats That Weird Wobbly Thing on a Turkeys Neck?

The loose red skin attached to the underside of a turkeys beak is called a wattle. When the male turkey is excited, especially during mating season, thewattle turns a scarlet red. The fleshy flap of skin that hangs over the gobblers beak is called a snood and also turns bright red when the bird is excited.The wobbly little thing on the turkeys chest is the turkeys beard and is made up of keratin bristles. Keratin is the same substance that forms hair and horns on otheranimals.

Is the Turkey Considered a Game Bird?
Yes. In fact,the wild turkey is one of the more difficult game birds to hunt. It wont be flushed out of the brush with a dog. Instead, hunters must try to attract it with different calls. Even with two seasons a year, only one in six hunters will get a wildturkey.

By the 1930s, almost all of the wild turkeys in the U.S. had been hunted. Today, thanks to conservation programs, there are plenty of wild turkeysthey even invade cities,occasionally!

What is a Baby Turkey Called? And What About Adult Turkeys?
A baby turkey is called a poult, chick, or even turklette. An adult male turkey is called a tomand a female is ahen.

How Big Do Turkeys Get?
The domestic tom can weigh up to 50 pounds, the domestic hen up to 16 pounds. The wild tom can weigh up to 20 pounds, the wild hen up to 12pounds.

Can Turkeys Fly?
The wild turkey can fly! (It does, however, preferto walk or run.) The domestic turkey is not an agile flyer, though the bird will perch in trees to stay safe frompredators.

How Long do Turkeys Live?
The average life span of a domestic turkey, from birth to freezer, is 26 weeks. During this period of time, it will eat about 75 pounds of turkey feed. The average life span of a wild turkey is three or four years. It generally feeds on seeds, nuts, insects, andberries.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Nov 23 14:17:45 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Thursday, November 23rd 2017 C.E.
Happy Thanksgiving!

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Mia
Selenay
Will

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Mia, Selenay, Will!



"To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice. With pie'. Anya ' Pangs

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Nov 23 14:12:34 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay lurking little feet!


Happy Thanksgiving!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Nov 23 11:27:49 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for lurking little feet!

yay lurking little feet!


Happy Thanksgiving!



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des says:
(Thu Nov 23 05:47:55 2017 173.191.184.170)
This is a test of the password renewal system. If this had been a real post, a message or comment would have been typed. This concludes this test of the password renewal system.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Nov 23 04:54:51 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Magic=Guns

Started by reviewing definitions of magic. Here are a few ...

~ science of control of secret forces of nature ~ (MacGregor Mathers, 1902)

"the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will" -
Aleister Crowley


A "gun" is a device that accelerates a projectile down a tube such that
projectile has a relatively well-defined trajectory. Historically those
projectiles were designed to kill or destroy things. This is still their
primeval purpose. That said, in the US the vast majority of bullets and
shot are aimed at inanimate objects (paper, clay, cans, plastic bottles,
etc.).

Magic(k) can be used for a variety of purposes. Willow used magick to light
a fire, create birthday decorations, to slow down Glory (Spiral),
and to try to end the world (Grave). A person uses a gun to put a
projectile on target. The only real similarity is they are means employed
by people.

In your scenarios magick is being used as a weapon. So ....

magic=weapon=gun?



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Nov 23 04:30:18 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

When people see things happening in the natural world, such as trees swaying
in the wind, they have an in-built disposition to look for who is responsible
for it. Social science sometimes refers to this as "agency".

Kenneth Boulding1 suggested we use prayers, spells, evocations, and
the like to influence nature, because we use talk to influence other people to
do things. The natural forces aren't listening, but we assume they are.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Nov 23 04:06:52 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Thank you! That
was interesting. What came to mind
immediately when I started reading
is that the same could be said of
prayers. I'm sure there are plenty
of people who are praying good/bad
things for Trump with about as much
certainty and effectiveness as
magic.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Nov 23 03:08:16 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

I need some more time. Until then, something I came across while
pondering...


"...I've seen a ton of comments on the large group working to bind
Donald Trump some positive, some negative, and some clueless. I saw one
comment last Monday morning that said well obviously it didn't work. Never
mind the fact that the working was intended to be done monthly for as long
as it takes, two days later Trump was still behaving like Trump, so the
magic was assumed to be ineffective.

Those of us with the least bit of experience in magic see this comment for
the overly skeptical dismissiveness it is. But it points toward a valid
question not enough of us ask: how do we know when our magic works?...
"

- John Beckett


Read more at http://www.patheos.com/blogs/johnbeckett/2017/03/know-
magic-worked.html#0t3GqmzzGr6MxCy5.99"



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Nov 23 02:07:32 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Let me ponder on it for 30 minutes or so. :)

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Nov 23 00:59:00 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Any other
scenarios you can think of with my
story of magick=guns?



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Nov 22 23:37:29 2017 4.28.180.2)
Agent Cooper,

I see what you did there. *g*

WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Nov 22 23:28:07 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Entertainment
Question: What actress was a member
of the Rat Pack?
Answer: What notsoShyGirl said.
*g*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Nov 22 22:29:52 2017 209.159.255.231)
lazy, hazy afternoon!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Nov 22 18:35:35 2017 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper I see what you did there!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Nov 22 17:53:13 2017 165.225.38.71)
Happy Thanksgiving, Bronze Peeps.

Remember, it's a Sham With Yams. Its a Yam Sham. :-)

Stuck at work. Wish they'd let us go early.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Nov 22 17:02:11 2017 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
The original member were Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., Peter Lawford, and Joey Bishop.

Marilyn Monroe, Angie Dickinson, Juliet Prowse, Buddy Greco, and Shirley MacLaine were often referred to as the "Rat Pack Mascots".



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Nov 22 15:37:11 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Entertainment
Question: What actress was a member of the Rat Pack?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Nov 22 14:58:51 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Wednesday, November 22nd 2017 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


ABPOSITVE
clover
KC
LoisLane262
RyianaT
Suzanne
The Host
tmc

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to ABPOSITVE, clover, KC, LoisLane262, RyianaT, Suzanne, The Host, tmc!



Lydia: Its removal from Burma is a felony and when triggered it has the power to melt human eyeballs. Giles: In that case I've severely underpriced it. 'Checkpoint''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Nov 22 14:24:36 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay ergo sum!

deadguy qod - It would have to be the food!!!! Particuarly the stuffing and/or mashed potatoes.

Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!

lostinamerica You almost gave me a heart attack with your Happy Thanksgiving. I thought I'd lost day!



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Nov 22 11:54:35 2017 73.58.128.92)

Happy Thanksgiving!


Hope everyone has a great day tomorrow!


wolfguard--Dog years, huh--back to elementary school for me :)

cc white wings


white wings--Unfortunately I'm the oldest sibling :(


DaddyCatALSO--A lot of famous people have been dying lately. Those who
haven't have apparently been sexually abusing women for years :(


Belated Yay! Petrona!


Belated Happy Birthday little wiggins!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Nov 22 11:12:56 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for ergo sum!

yay ergo sum!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale food kitchen - donate today

what is your favorite part of thanksgiving: turkey, pie, football, etc.?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Nov 22 04:25:22 2017 4.28.180.2)
Considering age, I just convert my years into dog years and feel really young.
*g*


WG



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white wings says:
(Wed Nov 22 03:58:44 2017 70.112.135.184)
Yay Petrona!

Happy Birthday Buttercup, Callista, Jade, james, Jojo, and little wiggins!


lostinamerica - I have a system for dealing with the high numbers. My
older brother and I share the same birthday. So on the day, I can remember
his age and think "Well, I'm not that age (yet)". It's only
three years, but it helps. *g*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Nov 22 02:48:20 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Hmm...in that situation, I would think the Sorcerer or Smitty could both bite it, depending on the type and speed of the counterspell. I don't think my counterspell would distinguish between premeditation or self-defense.

Comma No surprise, but sad nonetheless.



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Comma says:
(Wed Nov 22 02:33:29 2017 75.143.154.113)
David Cassidy has now left us. May he rest in peace.

Comma



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Nov 22 02:10:31 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

In proving a person guilty of a crime, such as murder, we often hear it
consist of three things: intent, means, and opportunity.

Opportunity:

The Sorcerer found Smitty the Munchkin in the herbal house.

Intent:

"Die Munchkin!"


Means:

The Sorcerer drew an athame and charged Smitty.


(Self-Defense Question: Can Smitty use force to defend himself?)


((Many states would demand Smitty prove he had no other options
other than force, e.g. running.
))


How might the above factor into the magick of your verse?



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Nov 22 00:19:44 2017 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Wed Nov 22 00:21:42 2017
wolfguard That's an interesting question! I think maybe when the
individual actually sets the bomb, he/she can't do it. Setting up a bomb
means you intend to harm or kill someone, so the counterspell would still
work.
It would be like if someone attempted to set a real-life bomb, but mishaps in
doing it kept happening, like you're fingers keep slipping or a part breaks
etc.

Or imagine perhaps a suicide bomber, either the counterspell defuses the bomb
automatically or somehow the counterspell contains the blast so that only the
bomber is killed.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Nov 22 00:15:06 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

What if the person placed a "time-spell", the equivalent of a time-bomb? When
would the counter-spell manifest?

WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Nov 21 23:14:36 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: In what Episode did Amy the Witch become Amy the Rat?
Answer: Gingerbread

Ding Ding Ding to wolfguard!



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ChristopherMarlowe;farrior says:
(Tue Nov 21 21:37:10 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Something
related to intent and, I think.
If a murder is premeditated,
perhaps a counterspell would be
invoked if there was an actual
attempt.

Something like this. If someone
is looking to kill someone with a
knife, that alone wouldn't
trigger it. If someone has
intent and then starts the actual
act, then somehow the knife
attack would be turned back on
the wielder.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Nov 21 21:34:20 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Earlier missed your story, just now read it. Very clever style. You're
establishing your verse rules in the end, i.e. under what conditions magick
has blowback?

I've never smoked, but thanks for the congratulations. *g*

WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Nov 21 20:24:48 2017 199.127.148.10)
Damn, I'm turning myself into t he local deathshead, RIP Della Reese



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Nov 21 20:09:05 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard You may be able to light up a cigar later. *G*

What did you think of my magic story?



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Nov 21 19:30:11 2017 71.56.125.67)
Belated Yay Irishrose!!


Belated Yay abt!!


Belated Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question


Do you have a favorite song from either show?

This one


Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question

The Bronze or Caritas?

The Bronze




WG



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Nov 21 18:48:10 2017 71.56.125.67)
Trivia Girl,

Third season's Gingerbread.

Also...

BUFFY
Did I get it?! Did I get it?!


*g*



WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Nov 21 16:29:40 2017 199.127.148.10)
RIP Mel Tillis

Turns out we also lost Blackjack Mulligan, wrestler, counterfeiter, author, about a year ago



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Nov 21 15:53:34 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: In what Episode did Amy the Witch become Amy the Rat?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Nov 21 14:37:05 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Tuesday, November 21st 2017 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Buttercup
Callista
Jade
James
JoJo
little wiggins

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Buttercup, Callista, Jade, james, Jojo, little wiggins!



You're a bloody puppet! You're a wee little puppet man! Spike, 'Smile Time''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Nov 21 14:23:52 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay petrona!

deadguy qod - the Revenge of the Turkeys! A demon possesses farm animals and they attack Sunnydale.


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Nov 21 11:44:39 2017 73.58.128.92)
white wings--As many of us,
who are also struck by how high the
number is, are ;)



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Nov 21 11:12:59 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for petrona

yay petrona!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

sunnydale farms - we have the plumpest turkeys

what would this year's thanksgiving episode be about?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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white wings says:
(Tue Nov 21 09:52:35 2017 70.112.135.184)
Happy Birthday Irene Adler!

Thanks for the wishes, Lostinamerica and The Birthday Gnomette. It was a quiet
one, but I am avoiding thinking about which one. *g*



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Nov 21 03:52:53 2017 73.58.128.92)
Oh, Happy Birthday white
wings
and Irene Adler!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Nov 21 02:53:40 2017 209.159.255.231)
that didn't take as long as I thought.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Nov 21 00:10:33 2017 209.159.255.231)
I will be gone most of the night, first a vigil, then a city council meeting.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Nov 21 00:02:30 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit[/b]

Category: Geography
Question: What country owns the Rock of Gibraltar.
Answer: Britain

Trivia Master: notsoShyGirl!



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Nov 20 22:26:41 2017 4.28.180.2)
"...There is a new resonance when Khrushchev talks about the importance of
telling the right story whether it is true or not.'This is how people get
killed, when their stories don't fit', he says..."


From Caryn James' review of Armando Lanucci's film, The Death of Stalin
(BBC Online)


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Nov 20 19:23:29 2017 165.225.38.71)
Chris Marlowe - I really liked Magical Beasts. I think it was a really solid first step in expanding the Potter-Verse beyond Harry Potter. Personally, I think it was good enough that it could have stood alone on its own merits as a story and film if HP had never been written. I look forward to the next installments.

I had to wait for a while to see it though. Mrs Cooper and I took Daughter Dooper to the theater with us when MBAWTFT opened. We met Daughter Cooper's niece, whom she's close with at the ticket line and we were all excited to see the movie together.

...Until Daughter Cooper suddenly became nauseous and we had to beat a hasty retreat out of the mall, - (making strategic stops at trash cans till we got the exit.)

Alas, I didn't get a chance to see it until a few months later when it came out on Amazon video. :-)



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Nov 20 18:45:12 2017 71.56.125.67)
Comma,

The first Slayer was created in 'prehistoric times' which predates the "Bronze Age".1 In Get It Done Buffy goes through the portal she encounters the "Shadow Men" who created the first Slayer. They spoke in a foreign language which the subtitles said was "Swahili". The Swahili language was not around in "prehistoric times". So the canon is inconsistent with the history in which it places the origin story. What does one make of that?

Well, Joss once said ~research is for wimps~.2 Joss doesn't research, he reads and watches stories and they probably provide the paints he uses. What stories has he read or watched in the past? We know comics, movies, and Shakespeare. He has said reading The Killer Angels got him thinking about characters and verse that became Firefly. How does one goes from the battle of Gettysburg to 'Space Cowboy'? He was attracted to the idea of a character whose idealism was lost in war. A rebel who lost and had to get by under a government he had fought.

Recall the TV show The Rebel (Johnny Yuma?). I don't know if Joss ever watched it, but he may have watched Wanted: Dead or Alive, because that's the source of Zoe's sidearm. I don't believe Joss salutes the stars and bars, but he was attracted to the emotion of lost causes. Imagine if the Colonists had lost the war with England and a Sgt Mal Reynolds, Continental Army, bought a sloop. Historical accuracy doesn't drive or guide Joss. Emotional truth does.


1 Since the "Bronze Age" is the time when bronze was the dominant material for tools and weapons, the "age" varied across the globae.

2 That said, as I recall Jane Espenson researched the Chumash indians in writing Pangs



WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Nov 20 17:41:31 2017 199.127.148.10)
Comma lostinamerica Elasmotherium has been known since 1808, and, as a rhino, it was not an omnivore.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Nov 20 16:11:58 2017 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
The United Kingdom



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Nov 20 15:32:40 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit[/I]

Category: Geography
Question: What country owns the Rock of Gibraltar.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Nov 20 14:31:33 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Monday,November 20th 2017 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


chainsaw man
Freaking_Amazing_Witch
Irene Adler
Lady Jen
Nightspirit
whitewings

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to chainsaw man, Freaking Amazing Witch, Irene Adler, Lady Jen, Nightspirit, white wings!



Kaylee: Captain seem a little funny to you at breakfast this morning? Wash: Come on, Kaylee. We all know I'm the funny one.'Heart Of Gold''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Nov 20 14:19:24 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay claris!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Nov 20 13:51:35 2017 73.58.128.92)
Comma--I Googled--it looks like a hairy rhino :)

Didn't North Korean scientists claim to have found unicorns a few years back? I
guess it was while they were taking a break from building nuclear missiles ;)

As for how the "Bronze" got its name--how does anything get its name? Many times
it means something to someone and the rest of the world never knows what that is.



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Nov 20 11:05:00 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for claris!

yay claris!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Nov 19 23:49:32 2017 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Mon Nov 20 00:24:43 2017
"So...you going to buy it or not?" he asked in annoyed voice. Sales has not been good today at the Spells & Ammo show at the Eternal Valeyard. Ever since that mass spelljacking from last month, there have been renewd cries for a crackdown on magic enhancements. Like it was his fault that some rejected suitor decided to soup-up a normally benign Merlin's Arrow and pinned half the members of a wedding party.

The would-be patron flicked Ryard with an offensive magic finger and moved off to the next vendor.

Ryard was tempted to goose him literally, but he didn't want Those FAMI Liars to come down on him. The Foundation for Animal, Magic and Imps managed to ban the use of bunnies in magic, so he didn't want to get any more grief form them. Ryard gloomily looked at his merch table and regretted buying all those wands. Old School weapons were losing their appeal, now that everyone was using these collapsible iWands these days. At least they weren't being targeted by anti-magic groups. At this rate, folks will be lucky to light up a sparkler with a magic snap of the fingers.

Ryard started packing up his merch when he felt a nearby presence. He got up, looked around and saw Maggrie. The grizzled old woman adjusted her turban and poked a few strands of gray hair back underneath it. The copious amount of jewelry she wore jangled loudly.

"Hey Mags, any luck today"? Mags was a good, if old, soul. One of the few true mediums left Alyrica.

"Nothing but whiny jagoffs today" she sniffed. "Ever since that edict to allow even teens to get a crystal balls, everyone wants that cute, emo chick to tell them the future. No one wants some old hag like myself, and the so called-mediums would know a good scry from a hole in the ground. Whaddya think that mass-spelljacking was about? That idiot went to some wannabe and she told him that if he just shaked things up at the wedding, that she would be captivated by him. No understanding and nuance that the ball never spells, ha!, things out that clearly" She cackled herself a bit more.

"I didn't know that", Ryard said, shaking his head as he packed the last of the wares into the Bag of Immense Holdings. "I figured he got that arrow-enhancement off some spell-mob in Ahshant."

"If it were that simple. Gotta love Grand Wizard Thrune advising folks to 'get small' rather than using shields. Beyond stupid, more folks would have died by trampling. "

"I thought using spells to cause death automatically resulted in some instant reaction, killing the user immediately?" Ryard asked.

"Those things work off only on intent. Anyone can work around that by simply toking some magic mushrooms to ease the mind. If the counterspell can't detect intent, then it doesn't work"



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Comma says:
(Sun Nov 19 22:19:06 2017 75.143.154.113)
Edited: Sun Nov 19 22:27:45 2017
Reference my ? about why 'The Bronze' is named that, 'Could it be because the slayers were started in the bronze age?'

As far as the first owners naming it that, 'Would that not be out of the mind of Joss or one of the other writers?'

I am waiting for more of the story to be told, 'Has anyone else seen the reports on the fossil remains of Unicorns have been found?' It is closely related to the South American Tapir, Rhinos, and the ancient North American horse. It did have a single horn, but, unlike the other members ot it's family, it was a meat eater.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Nov 19 22:08:34 2017 209.159.255.231)
lostinamerica No, not yet. I applied for a couple, but haven't had a callback for an interview yet. Not too many positions out there that are similar to what I did. I'm looking at doing some training like on quickbooks to up my game a little bit.



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Nov 19 21:22:54 2017 71.56.125.67)
Lostinamerica,

I cannot disagree with your definition of "embrace". I do believe Buffy had been presented with a Sophie's Choice and discovered a way out of making it. I believe Sophie would have embraced a similar out.

As to Ben, ...and Slayers can't kill humans..., who made that rule? ~ A bunch of men who died a thousand years ago ~

Buffy's speech from Chosen (Youtube)

Ten seconds into it, I was tearing up. *g*


WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Nov 19 15:30:59 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Sunday, November 19th 2017 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


appllo
BornJudy
Corpelia
Dru
LadyJack
Little Miss Naughty

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to appllo, BornJudy, Corpelia, Dru, LadyJack, Little Miss Naughty!



Sometimes I miss having powers... Oh. Oh! I know what this is! This is peer pressure! Any second now you're gonna make me smoke tobacco and--and have drugs!Anya, 'Triangle' '

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Nov 19 12:13:30 2017 73.58.128.92)
DaddyCatALSO--Great news!
Just like ChristopherMarlowe
said, keep moving :)


ChristopherMarlowe--Did you
find another job?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Nov 19 00:39:36 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Still thinkin'. *g*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Nov 18 21:52:54 2017 209.159.255.231)
DaddyCatALSO Glad it's normal. But like docs have been saying since the dawn of time. Exercise!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Sat Nov 18 21:14:07 2017 216.164.173.90)
Went to a cardiologist Thursday,
ticker is basically normal. Need to
start thinking how to keep it that
way



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Nov 18 16:07:16 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Saturday, November 18th 2017 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!

dob
Elizabeth Anne Allen as the rat & witch, Amy Madison
Emerald
Miss Rellie
SarahNicole

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Elizabeth Anne, Allen, Emerald, dob, Miss Rellie, SarahNicole!



River: They weren't cows inside. They were waiting to be, but they forgot. Now they see the sky and they remember what they are. Mal: Is it bad that what she said made perfect sense to me?'Safe'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Nov 18 15:14:01 2017 209.159.255.231)
Good morning beta!



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lostinamerica says:
(Sat Nov 18 13:14:38 2017 73.58.128.92)
wolfguard--Embracing
something, to me, means to
enthusiastically support it. You
see how tired Buffy was at the
beginning of season five. And in
the scene between her and Dawn on
the platform, you see her quietly
realize the true meaning of "death
is your gift," when she looks at
the rising sun and realizes it's
the last one she'll see. She has
run out of options, she's tired,
and she knows the life of a Slayer
is a short one, she's spoken about
it enough on the show. While she
is literally running toward death,
I don't see her embracing it,
simply accepting it--if she'd had
any other card to play she would
have played it.

Buffy couldn't kill Ben--he's
human, and Slayers can't kill
humans. She could only kill Ben
as Glory, so no option there. Now
another human, as Giles pointed
out while killing Ben, could, and
he did, fearing Glory would come
back and make Buffy pay for
letting him/her live.


Belated Yay! gypsyrat and
dirtysocks!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Nov 18 03:12:09 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I will endeavor to come up with something over the weekend. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Nov 18 02:09:31 2017 4.28.180.2)
DaddyCatALSO,

Quite a list. I will ponder it.


Christopher Marlowe,

It would be interesting to see how a writer's take on guns and arms applies
that take to magic. For instance, I do not hunt or carry a firearm for
self-defense, but I view the Second Amendment as the ideological
underpinning of all the others. The US was perhaps the first government
created by a committee. Its power was defined and constrained by the
people.1 Most every over government in the history of the world
had and has limited or denied weapons to their subjects or citizens. Not in
the USA.

In a similar fictional verse magick would exist, but most all governments
would limit or deny its possession by the people. Only the government could
legitimately use magick. But in one country, magick is a right of the
people.


Then again, one might argue it's okay to use magick for parlor tricks, it's
tradition and no one would take that away from the people. But who needs
powerful spells? It's alright to levitate a pencil, but levitating people?
Come on.

Your turn. *g*



1 Admittedly white men of property (most of them)


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Nov 18 01:04:31 2017 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper Did you see the Fantastic Beasts movie? What do you think about what appears to be a series of them?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Nov 17 23:54:19 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard You know, I wonder if magick would something to the equivalent of guns in a particular fantasy world.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Nov 17 20:15:53 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Xander letting go of the outward trapping s of immaturity by pushing to keep his good job and moving out from under the parents. Tara's letting go of her restrictive past. Ben's losing his job he loves. *JOYCE!!!!* Giles's fully accepting the loss of his Watcher status, and then embracing it anew in a changed form. Buffy's first reducing her schedule then leaving school entirely. Dawn's loss of what she thought of as her identity. Buffy and Riley let go of each other. Harmony and Drusilla both give up on Spike. Spike moves on from Buffy to the 'bot and then loses it. Warren tries to give up his toys to be with Katrina, but in his carelessness fails and loses Katri. Etc.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Nov 17 18:27:36 2017 71.56.125.67)
DaddyCatALSO,

Specifics?


Agent Cooper,

I had no idea, i.e. class in Harry Potter stories.


WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Nov 17 15:28:14 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Other things were let go in that season



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Nov 17 15:01:37 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is November 17th 2017 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


Divaliving
Dukessa
Masquerade
Miskatonic
Pam
Vanessa's Hubby
Wolvie

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Divaliving, Dukessa, Masquerade, Miskatonic, Pam, Vanessa's Hubby, Wolvie!



Glory: Lesson number one, Vampires equal impure! Spike: Damn right I'm impure, I'm as impure as the driven yellow snow! 'Intervention''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Nov 17 14:38:16 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay dirtysocks!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!

Comma That's a good question. I assume it has to literally due to the metal, bronze, like there was some factory or something that made bronze.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Nov 17 14:37:16 2017 165.225.38.71)
Comma - Could be any reason for the name. You'd have to ask the original owner(s) why they chose it. It could have some special significance to them or it could just be they sat around and thought up a name they thought sounded cool.

It's just like naming your band. :-)

Wolfguard/Chris Marlowe - Social class is actually a central theme in the Harry Potter books. It's ostensibly the root cause of both Wizarding Wars. I say ostensibly, because just as happens here in the real world, the concept was basically used as a fan to flame the hostilities, and had little to do with the actual goals of the war.

Without getting super detailed, the wizarding world is made up of pure blood wizards, IE, families that have only married and had children with other wizards - and half bloods, or wizards who married non wizards. Historically there was always a divide between the two, with the pure bloods believing they are superior to half bloods, and taht wizards should not inter-brred with non-wizards, or even associate with them as it threatens the secrecy of the wizard world. They generally would look down on those with mixed blood for associating with non-wizards.

With that cultural meme as the backdrop, this super powerful evil wizard decides he wants to put the entire world, wizards and regular people alike, under his despotic rule and live forever. He appeals to the pure blood wizards that they should rule with him and eliminate or enslave the non-wizarding world along the non-pure blood wizards, and many of them (but not all) join him.

The irony is that the Evil Wizard leader (Voldemort) is actually a half blood himself. In fact, as the character Ron Weasley points out, almost none of the so called "pure blood" families are really pure blooded at all, or they would have died out a long time ago.



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Comma says:
(Fri Nov 17 12:50:03 2017 168.244.4.59)
A question that should have hit me 20 years ago, and should have been answered on one of the many BtVS sites, including this one, years ago: 'Why was 'The Bronze', as in the teen hangout, named The Bronze'?

Anyone know the answer?

Comma



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Nov 17 11:11:27 2017 24.3.106.169)
Edited: Fri Nov 17 11:13:58 2017
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for dirtysocks!

yay dirtysocks!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Nov 17 04:50:22 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I can confirm with some more devoted Harry Potter fans if my perceptions of class is correct or not.

I think it can be either way, depending on how magic is used. If magic can create gold or some other form of currency. Having an inherent skill/or ability in magic could lead to wealth if people pay for it, ie love charms.

I have yet to fully parse out magick as currency and how that would work.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Nov 17 03:26:28 2017 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Fri Nov 17 03:27:08 2017
Christopher Marlowe,

I'd heard that about Harry Potter, but didn't realize they saw it as a class
distinction (I'd not read any of the books).

A question about the direction of magick and wealth in fantasy fiction: Does
magick create wealth or does wealth purchase magick?


ETA That's interesting, magick as currency.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Nov 17 03:23:05 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Now I'm imaginging a society where magic is currency.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Nov 17 02:07:06 2017 209.159.255.231)
Don't do this to me Al Franken...arggh!!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Nov 17 00:02:13 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: States
Question: What state is known as the 'The North Star State'
Answer: Minnesota

Trivia Statists: notsoShyGirl and Agent Cooper (lol!)



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Nov 16 23:14:45 2017 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Thu Nov 16 23:16:50 2017
wolfguard Class systems is a common feature of sci-fi as well as fantasy, so I'm sure there are plenty out there that have magic intertwined with class, ie, the richer you are, the more magic or magic items you have.

The Xanth fantasy series, is somewhat based on class in that royalty is more likely to have powerful/expansive magic abilities. So the ability to fly, for example, vs the ability to create a single feather.

But there are lots of ways that could be tweaked.

ETA

Harry Potter has that as well, Muggles, half-muggles and wizard folks.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Nov 16 22:03:26 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Your idea of a social classes based on magic is full of possibilities. I've
not read much in the fantasy-genre, so wonder if it's been explored before?


DaddyCatALSO,

Given your use of "break", I'm not certain we've using it the same way.
"Breaking a story" is organizing it into a narrative sequence. While many
writers just start at the beginning and punt, no professional television
writer will do so because they work as a team on a deadline. A story is
going to be organized - blueprinted - outlined. Many writers who outline
will start at the end of the story because the end usually seals their
point. They then begin exploring different ways to get there.

Joss knew he was going to kill off Buffy at the end of season five, so
that's the 'beginning' of season five with respect to breaking season five.
1

To season five's theme(s). I've no problem with family and belonging, but
"letting go" doesn't evoke the finality - to me - of accepting death.



1 Now if you believe Joss, he had a general idea where he wanted
to go with the entire series. Evidence suggest this was certainly true with
season five (see Graduation Day 2 Faith ~ Little Miss Muffett
counting down from 7-30 and Restless where Buffy looks at the clock
and says ~ I'm late and Tara replies, ~ That clock's not right). OTOH, Joss
also said he planned each seasons' finale to serve as a series finale -
just in case. Joss once visited the board and took a few questions. I asked
how far ahead did he plan and how was the plan going. He replied he planned
a year ahead and all was going well.



WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Nov 16 22:03:20 2017 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper How's your week going? I've been rather lazy most days.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Nov 16 19:58:06 2017 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Christopher Marlowe Buffy's death isn't part of the break of S-5 until the final ep. was aired.
I think the significance largely lies in the tension between what I see as the Overt Theme of the season, "Family and Belonging," with the Alter Theme of "Letting Go."



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Nov 16 18:07:30 2017 165.225.38.71)
Trivia Girl: The North Start State? I dunno. I think that could be any state just north of the Mason-Dixon line. Because that would be where the North starts. Amiright??

I should definitely be awarded points for this.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Nov 16 16:15:03 2017 50.198.201.21)
Trivia Girl
Minnesota is the North Star state



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Nov 16 15:58:04 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: States
Question: What state is known as the 'The North Start State'



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Nov 16 15:29:03 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Thursday, November 16th 2017 C.E.

We have ELEVEN (11) Birthdays!


BLuCaSBaBe2000
Dru da Hanson Slayer
Dru Hill
Fanged Eddie
leanne
Luc the Big Pile of Dust
mairin
niamh
sera
Thirdcross
YesPlease

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to BLuCaSBaBe2000, Dru da Hanson Slayer, Dru Hill, Fanged Eddie, leanne, Luc the Big Pile of Dust, mairin, niamh, sera, Thirdcross, YesPlease!



Can't you ever get your mind out of the hellmouth? Buffy, 'The Prom''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Nov 16 14:14:37 2017 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Thu Nov 16 14:19:19 2017
yay gypsyrat!


Happy CD Thursday!

wolfguard That's a good question. I might actually go old school, much
like Joss, with the weird ingredients. I like the magic concept of 'ley
lines'. I think part of the reason I like both is because that limits magic
to an extent and makes the magic wielder more interesting. OTOH, perhaps a
world where everyone possesses the ability to wield magic, but to varying
degrees, based on a variety of factors. So there might be class-based magic
society.



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Nov 16 12:04:00 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for gypsyrat!

yay gypsyrat!


Happy CD Thursday!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Nov 16 04:46:34 2017 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Depends on the magick one chooses or creates for a story. *g* I don't think
Joss gave magick much thought. He used magick as a plot device and source of
story ideas.

If you had participated in the current National Novel Writing Month and your
novel involved magick, how would you have envisioned your magick working?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Nov 16 03:09:26 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard That spell that created Dawn might have been the most powerful one ever done.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Nov 16 01:00:11 2017 4.28.180.2)
Lostinamerica,

I agree with your, ~why listen to Spike?. OTOH, Spike was confirming what
each already feared. Buffy had experienced at least one occasion where
Spike told her what she knew to be true, ~ that she and Angel could never
be friends (Lovers' Walk). There was also a scene, episode slips me,
where Anya told the one or more of the scoobies that she often told the
truth as a vengeance demon.

As to death, Buffy embraced it. She'd lost Riley.1 She lost her
Mom. Glory had smacked her down, hand-to-hand, at least twice.2
She had failed in protecting Dawn. Worst, Giles was telling her she had to
make a decision between Dawn and the world.3

Buffy saw one narrow path to avoiding that decision. The ritual had to be
done at a specific place during a specific time frame. If Buffy could
rescue Dawn and keep her away from Glory till the time passed, then Dawn
would no longer be of use to Glory.4)

Another strategy, not considered, would have been to kill Ben. Whiles
Giles did it in the heat of battle, once the scoobies knew the Ben-Glory
connection the option was open. Once Willow had rescued Buffy from her
catatonic state, they could have decided to kill Ben (assuming they could
find Ben before the ritual). This is nonsense of course, because breaking
this season began with Buffy's death. In 5th season, death was Buffy's
fate.

Buffy had to choose between Dawn and the World and realizing she could
sacrifice herself saved her from that choice. Buffy embraced death.


1 Many fans may not have considered that a lost, but the story
showed her feeling it as a lost.

2 No Place Like Home, Shadow

3 If they had learned the details earlier in the season might
Giles have advised killing Dawn? I think not, but there's a very dark story
there.

4 OTOH, Glory probably would have sought revenge.



WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Nov 16 00:28:55 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who played warlock Cyrus Vail?
Answer: Dennis Christopher

Trivia Casting Director: notsoShyGirl



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Nov 15 23:26:37 2017 73.58.128.92)
wolfguard--Season four does reflect what happens when people leave high
school for college--friends you used to have may fall by the wayside and newly-
made friends may not turn out to be real friends at all, that happens. The
fact everyone had their panties in a wad in The Yoko Factor irritated
me--well, yeah, what did you people think was going to happen when you all went
off in different directions? And why in the world would you listen to Spike,
of all people?

As for Season five--I immediately understood the meaning of "Death is your
gift" from the First Slayer in Intervention. So, when they started
The Gift with that intro of a world-weary Buffy saving the boy in the
alley, I thought there would be a good chance she wouldn't make it out of her
final fight with Glory. That, and the whole Glory being a god thing--tough to
beat a god. But it's not that Buffy, and other heroes, embrace death, they
just accept it as the cost of doing business.

As for any stories after Chosen, yes, there would be drama enough for
several stories, rounding up potentials-turned-Slayers and reorganizing the
Council.


Yay! Irishrose!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Nov 15 21:39:09 2017 209.159.255.231)
AGent Cooper Sorry, no points for 'it was whathisname' answers!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Nov 15 18:04:41 2017 165.225.38.71)
Trivia Girl: Ooh! Ooh! I know this~! It was that one guy, the one who played that guy in that one movie! Not the bad guy, but the other guy. Whathisname. Yeah, him!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Nov 15 16:25:31 2017 50.198.201.21)
Trivia Girl
Dennis Christopher



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Nov 15 15:51:08 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who played warlock Cyrus Vail?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Nov 15 15:08:47 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Wednesday, November 15th 2017 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


mirandaest
UN-dead
Wild Weasel

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to mirandaest, UN-dead, wild weasel!



What should I do, then? Send her a gift? Sacrifice? Unholy fruit basket? Angel, 'Ground State''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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Ebdim9th says:
(Wed Nov 15 14:36:10 2017 64.28.52.183)
Hey y'all all ..... *hi bye fly by as
some say*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Nov 15 14:13:42 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay irishrose!

deadguy for Buffy, 'under your spell' from OMWF. Outside of that it would probably be 'goodbye to you' by Michelle Branch.

I would have to that that LA Song by Christian Kane/Lindsay on Angel.


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Nov 15 12:28:36 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for irishrose!

yay irishrose!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

ksun - radio sunnydale

do you have a favorite song from either show?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Nov 15 04:20:21 2017 4.28.180.2)
Hereabouts

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Nov 15 03:24:43 2017 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Are you around
tonight?



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cmarlowe says:
(Wed Nov 15 02:39:08 2017 107.167.127.100)
i will be home soon from a community forum



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Maverick says:
(Wed Nov 15 01:53:02 2017 68.51.139.52)
Edited: Wed Nov 15 01:57:43 2017
Christopher Marlowe: People get into wars depending on alliances they've made in the past to defend other allies. We seem to have fought on France's side twice (WWI and WWII) since they (Lafayette) helped us defeat England in our War of Independence. Interestingly, we seem to pick up, as allies, countries we've defeated in the past (I'm thinking England, Germany, and Japan [even despite the bomb.]) Probably the Marshall Plan had something to do with this. NATO is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization which includes many countries who "promise" to come to the defense of other NATO states which are attacked. We seem to get pulled into wars in order to stop some tinpot dictator from trying to expand his tyrannical control over more territory. Kim Jong-Un is just the latest in a long line; he will lose his zeal for continued confrontation if Trump convinces other States (mostly China and Russia) to apply sanctions to him.


lostinamerica: Are you interested that in the UK, dementia has now passed heart disease as the largest cause of death? Dementia in the UK. Isn't it fascinating, also, that these two conditions seem to compete for preventative strategies?


Can GAMISS clothing really be that inexpensive?


Maverick


If I Can't Have You




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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Nov 14 22:57:16 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What weapon did the troll in 'Triangle' have?
Answer: hammer

Trivia Nailed it: notsoshyGirl!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Nov 14 19:54:44 2017 71.56.125.67)
Drive-By 2

Christopher Marlowe,

Prior to the industrial age many elites embraced war. While wars had high risks, they also could have high rewards.

Wars of the industrial age have often been associated with technological innovations that paid dividends during peace. During and following some wars significant social programs were enacted to maintain and reward the allegiance of the population. Most economic historians think the Great Depression was brought to an end by the federal government's uber massive fiscal spending needed to fight WWII. Under the right conditions losing a war can bring goods things as we can see with Germany and Japan following WWII. Finally, wars have a competitor in dealing death ...

"...The pandemic killed between 50 and 100 million people, meaning that in terms of loss of life it dwarfed the First World War (around 17 million dead), possibly also the Second World War (around 60 million dead), and perhaps even both together ... In history books, it is treated as a footnote to the 1914-1918 war..." (History News Network)


Spanish Influenza



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Nov 14 19:37:22 2017 71.56.125.67)
Drive-By 1

Lostinamerica,

I've never used a debit card.

What I recall the writers saying about 4th season was it would explore what happens to friends after the graduate high school and move out into the world. How the writers answered that would be the theme.

Xander felt left out. Willow developed a relationship with Tara that she at first kept separate from the others. Buffy got recruited into the Initiative and for a short while Willow, Xander, and Giles felt they'd been pushed into the cold (Doomed). It all came to a climax at the end of The Yoko Factor with Buffy ending the group shout fest with ~~ Maybe that's why the Slayer's creed doesn't say anything about the slayer having friends (She alone...).

What I remember the writers saying about sixth season's theme was ~grow up already~, though 'life is hell' fits Buffy's question to Dawn near the end of Bargaining 2, ~ Is this hell?

If there was a theme to 5th season it might have been everyone has a breaking point beyond which they might embrace death, even heroes.


If I needed a working theme for a post-Chosen BtVS season it would be 'work is hell'. That said, given the final scene of Chosen that's not where I would take the show. Instead of being a peon/cubicle dwarf - shades of Anne - Buffy was faced with making something out of the situation she and Willow created. Buffy is cast in the role of entrepreneur or legacy creator. To work in the 'work is hell' I'd have Buffy begin her quest having to work with the New Council. In the real world mergers more often fail than succeed, so the Scooby-New Council alliance would not last, but it would provide a good transition vehicle.


WG



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Nov 14 17:14:33 2017 73.58.128.92)
Agent Cooper,
ChristopherMarlowe, wolfguard
--Because of all the hacks I've gone back to
using checks whenever possible over a debit card.


wolfguard--Everyone in Asia hates the Japanese ;)

And back to your question from way back--didn't season four switch
from "high school is hell" to "college is hell?" And doesn't season five start
the "life is hell" theme that continues into season sux?


Yay! abt!


Happy Belated Birthday Morella, Captain Chaos and Old One!


Belated Yay! ChristopherMarlowe and Holy Water!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Nov 14 16:24:52 2017 50.198.201.21)
Trivia Girl
The enchanted hammer of the troll
gods



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Nov 14 16:10:56 2017 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What weapon did the troll in 'Triangle' have?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Nov 14 14:25:38 2017 209.159.255.231)
Today is Tuesday, November 14th 2017 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


borthy
Chianne
Paul Teague

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to borthdy, Chianne, Paul Teague!



How's it sit? Pretty cunning, don'tchya think? Jayne, 'The Message' '

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Nov 14 14:09:07 2017 209.159.255.231)
yay abt!

deadguy qod

Tough call, I would have to say the bronze though, because I would be sure to enjoy the bands. With Caritias, you never know what you're going to get.


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Nov 14 12:35:16 2017 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for abt

yay abt!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale music festival - all events are daylight events

the bronze or caritas?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!


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