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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Feb 13 14:26:01 2019 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
10/5/99



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Feb 13 13:37:07 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What was the original air date of the first episode of Angel?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Feb 13 13:25:03 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Wednesday, February 13th 2019 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Angel'sHeaven
BuffyAngel_4ever
Willowgurl
WillowofOz

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angel'sHeaven, BuffyAngel_4ever, Willowgurl, WillowofOz



Angel: Is that what you think you are--a hero? Spike: Saved the world didn't I? Angel: Once. Talk to me after you've done it a couple more times. 'Destiny'''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 13 13:15:04 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay mia!



Spike's accent is the easiest to do for sure...just toss in a 'bollocks' or 'luv' and you're good!


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Feb 13 12:46:10 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for mia!

yay mia!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

learn an accent - impress friends and strangers

whose british accent is easiest to imitate, giles, spike, or drusilla?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Feb 13 11:39:02 2019 73.58.128.92)
Belated Happy Birthday Holy
Water!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Feb 13 06:26:03 2019 71.199.128.40)
Yay Angela!


White Wings,

That's close to spot on. Do you remember how the episode ends? Hint: In the
Bronze. *g*



Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question

Did you ever watch a Buffy episode inebriated (or high) and then couldn't
wait to see it again to see if it was really as good (or bad) as you
thought?


I've never been "inebriated" or "high", so I offer a variation on the theme.
I was so worried over how the actors' singing in Once More With
Feeling
might be judged that I was unable to really sit back and enjoy
it. A year or two after BtVS ended, one of my goddaughters gave me the CD.
Loved it - and have since enjoyed the songs on a very regular basis. *g*



Night All

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 13 04:52:05 2019 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard, white wings I
wish I could say I was peachy keen,
but there is snow predicted for
this weekend.

Old Man Winter is a mean one this
year.



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white wings says:
(Wed Feb 13 04:19:23 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay angela!

Happy Birthday Anne #3, Blaberus, Holy Water, and Liz!

Christopher Marlowe - Sleepy. Some pollen or mold got me yesterday, and for some reason I wasn't as successful at sleeping under an ice pack. One has to pack the pillows just so, and I didn't get it. It's seemed like a very long day. *g*

wolfguard - Another moment from Reptile Boy is when Willow explodes. After lecturing Giles, she turns on Angel, with whom she's always been rather timid. As best I recall, it goes:

"AND YOU!"
(Angel flinches, and it looks as though he's wondering what he did)
"You're going to live forever! You don't have time for a cup of coffee?"

Then she wants to disappear, except that Buffy needs help. I think I'm just going to disappear and contemplate death to spring elm.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Feb 13 03:20:11 2019 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Peachy keen.

*g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 13 02:08:33 2019 209.159.255.231)
How is everyone tonight?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Feb 12 23:59:45 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What was the name of the deputy mayor of Sunnydale?
Answer: Finch

Trivia master: notsoShyGirl!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 12 19:21:58 2019 71.199.128.40)
Drive-By

DQMBTQ is going to be challenging for me. I have never used alcohol or any
other mood-influencing drug. Hmmm....


WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Feb 12 16:54:46 2019 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Allan Finch



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Feb 12 13:34:33 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What was the name of the deputy mayor of Sunnydale?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Feb 12 13:23:44 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Tuesday, February 12th 2019 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Anne #3
Blaberus
Holy Water
Liz

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Anne #3, Blaberus, Holy Water, Liz



Strong like an Amazon, Tara 'The Body'

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 12 13:14:15 2019 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Tue Feb 12 13:16:17 2019
yay angela!

deadguy qod

I have not watched an episode while Under the Influence, thank goodness, otherwise I would have thought Beer Bad was the best ever!


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Feb 12 12:35:30 2019 73.58.128.92)
Agent Cooper--Great news, so
happy for you and your wife :)


Belated Yay! Humvee!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Feb 12 12:28:31 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for angela

yay angela!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale beer festival - we can brew potions


did you ever watch a buffy episode inebriated (or high) and then couldn't wait to see it again to see if it was really as good (or bad) as you thought?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 12 07:52:38 2019 71.199.128.40)
Edited: Tue Feb 12 07:55:53 2019
I semi-randomly selected a BtVS episode to watch tonight ....

Reptile Boy! (Season 2)


It was great, stepping back ~22 seasons and remembering a bit how it felt.
Bittersweet, but a smile on the face. Some quick notes ...

GILES
(to Buffy)
You yawned your way through weapons training


XANDER
(to Buffy)
Cordelia is much better for you than Angel.

WILLOW
(to Angel)
How do you shave?


The episode climax sees Buffy defeat Makita, "Reptile Boy"1 and
the cult fraternity boys being herded away to their just deserts - legal
action. As this was happening I wondered what would happen when Buffy and
the scoobies appeared in court. How would they explain how they got
involved. Defense: A demon tried to eat them? I would suggest demom rum was
what they were drinking!

And even before this, back at the scene of the crime, who arrested the boys?
The scoobies? Citizen's arrest? How did they transport the frat boys to the
police station? And then later at the Bronze, like the next night, Xander is
reading in the newspaper that they - the frat boys? - got consecutive life
sentences. Arrest-booking-indictment-trail-sentencing all in 24-hours. I
sense Major Wilkins at work here. *g*


ETA The teaser begins with Buffy, Willow, and Xander upstairs in Buffy's
bedroom watching the Indian "Bollywood" movie. The establishing shot is the
exterior of Buffy's house, but it's not front-on but at diagonal angle. Very
neat.

1 Until now, I always thought of "Reptile Boy" being named for
"Makita", but tonight realized it could refer to the frat boy leader.



WG



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white wings says:
(Tue Feb 12 04:47:52 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay HumVee!

Happy Birthday David's Chick, Scoobie Gangster, Tenik Vam, and wuthering!

Agent Cooper - I'm glad you have found more satisfactory neurologists for Mrs. Cooper. That must be a great relief.

Good work in driving the phone company so crazy they practically bribed you to switch phones. I did that to a burglar alarm company once. It was fun. *g* Sadly, that option is apparently not open to you now. It can be good to get a phone large enough that you can actually see the display. I don't know if you are old enough to have started to discover that. Make sure that when you lay your old phone to rest that it doesn't rise again. ;-)

Comma - Thanks for the history. I did not realize just how ancient that tradition was, nor did I know the origin of the term. Indeed, the nation was most fortunate. *cough* Sorry, it's the pollen.



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Comma says:
(Tue Feb 12 03:28:32 2019 75.143.154.113)
FEBRUARY 11

On this day in 1812, Governor Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts was asked to arbitrate an important matter in the new nation.
Who better could you want?
Gerry had signed the Declaration of Independence, been part of the Constitutional Convention and served as a member of Congress, before becoming Governor of Massachusetts.
As a father of our country, Gerry was asked to determine the lines of reapportionment for the State's senatorial delegation.
He proceeded to draw a group of crooked lines that made a random walk look like a moonshot.
Amazingly, these squiggles happened to coincide with the strong points of Gerry's party.
And a new word entered the language - Gerrymander - meaning to abuse your power in order to enhance the election chances of your friends and yourself.
In the American tradition of justice, Gerry was punished by being elected the Vice President of the United States under James Madison one-year later.
Luckily for the nation, no person known to do anything crooked or even to show favoritism to his friends was ever sent to the White House again.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Feb 12 00:37:04 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Games
Question: What country did the game Trivial Pursuit originate?
Answer: Blame Canada

Trivia Canadianlanders: notsoShyGirl, Comma
Trivia Out of the Country: AGent Cooper



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Comma says:
(Mon Feb 11 20:06:31 2019 75.143.154.113)
Trivial Girl: Trivial Pursuit originated in Canada. There is a urban legend that it is the ******* grandchild of the TV game 'Jeopardy'.

Comma



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Feb 11 18:17:19 2019 165.225.38.64)
Trivia Girl: Germany. Because all the really good board games are from Germany.

Now it's time to hear about Agent Cooper's day to day life. How exciting for all of you!

Weather: We are set to get a pretty good snow storm tomorrow. Yay.

My Phone: I washed my phone in the laundry. So I sealed it up in a plastic bag overnight with a couple of dessicant packs I raided from some old pill bottles. It works now but just barely. Time for a new phone. But this is good because A. my tiny trac phone is ancient in phone years and incites mockery and ridicule from my coworkers, C. I am a real cheapskate with this stuff and would probably have kept my old phone till it literaly didn't work anymore* and C. with my new position I really need to have a decent phone anyway.

*I have a trac phone. And I found something out about them a couple years ago: If you stubbornly keep your phone long enough, and it is about to become obsolete, they start sending you messages warning you about it. They tell you it's time to upgrade your phone or it won't work anymore. You get alot of these towards the end, and they get more and more urgent. If you ignore these messages long enough (which phone cheapskate Agent Cooper did) they eventually give up and just send you a free new phone so you can keep using your minutes. To be clear, it's a CRAPPY new phone, of the lowest quality available, but still. That's how I got my current phone, which was laundered yesterday.


Oh, and Mrs. Cooper saw a new neurologist last week. Much happier now. This new guy was much more optimistic and very proactive about treating her. He also took her off the crazy pills they other doc gave her right away, which is very nice.

The neuro group at the major medical center near me *ahem* which I will not mention - but would be pretty easy to guess for some of you - was well, not good. We saw three different neuro people who told us three different things and the front office there was terrible. The nurses were rude and the office people never answered the phone, and never called back when you left messages. They even sent her prescription to the wrong pharmacy and we had to track it down. This new group is WAY better.

She still can't drive till July, which is a bummer though. She's going nuts without the car.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Feb 11 16:08:42 2019 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Canada



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Feb 11 13:34:29 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Games
Question: What country did the game Trivial Pursuit originate?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Feb 11 13:23:33 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Monday, February 11th 2019 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


David's Chick
Scoobie Gangster
Tenik
Vam
wuthering

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to David's Chick, Scoobie Gangster, Tenik Vam, wuthering



Look, Angel, I know you've been out of the loop for a while, but I'm still evil. I don't do errands...unless they're evil errands. Lilah, 'Ground State'

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Feb 11 13:11:52 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay humvee!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Feb 11 13:06:07 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for humvee!

yay humvee!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Feb 11 04:35:28 2019 71.199.128.40)
Maverick,

Your, "... I would recommend my attitude as enlightened...". I'll
pass on the recommendation. As to my friend being wrong, that'll be between
him and God (He passed away a few years ago). He lived the Faith and if he
got the interpretation wrong, then it's likely many others do to - yourself
included.

I did not vote for Trump, because I disagreed with his proposed policies on
trade and immigration. I voted libertarian. I've known other men like him,
so I don't think his style and behaviors are necessarily indicative of him
being mentally impaired. His behaviors just don't match those many people
have associated with the traditional persona of the presidency. Once upon a
time, conservatives respected tradition, because it was believed for a set
of behaviors to last long enough to become traditional might suggest they
had value. Of course, a lot of Trump's supporters are not traditional
conservatives. Many appear to believe some radical disruption of TPTB -
however envisioned - is called for. Some of those people voted for Bernie
Sanders in the Democratic primaries and switched to Donald Trump in the
general election. President Trump might find the reverse happening in 2020
(thought it likely will not be Sanders). It's not about being liberal or
conservative, Democrat of Republican. It's anger at the establishment.


Side-Note: Henry VIII wanted an annulment and sought Biblical justification
for it. I don't know if he wanted the justification to offer the Pope, his
subjects, or himself. Stephen Kotkin, a political scientist, has written
what might be the definitive biography of Stalin. In an interview he said
one thing he learned from primary documents was the answer to an old debate
about Stalin and the early Soviet revolutionaries. Were they true believers
or Machiavellian pragmatists? The documents show them debating and analyzing
the situation in Russia and the world through the eyes of true believers.
Their ideology shaped how the perceived and understood matters. It was their
reality.

The other night I was rewatching a lecture on the collapse of the classic
Maya. The archaeological problem involves understanding why around AD 800
Mayans abandoned hundreds of their cities. The professor surveyed the
traditional culprits and added one of his own. After offering his own, he
offered a counter-argument spotlighting a weakness in it. He ended saying, ~
If we are going to understand what happened, then we have to be able to
think as Mesoamericans thought and not as Westerners. And that's key to any
analysis of other groups - being able to perceive the world as they perceive
the world.


WG



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white wings says:
(Mon Feb 11 04:03:24 2019 70.112.135.184)
Christopher Marlowe - Fuzzy socks sound very good. It seems to me that
fuzzy robes and fuzzy blankets would also be helpful. Also hot chocolate, with
marshmallows.



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Feb 11 03:43:50 2019 73.58.128.92)
Maverick--No, God knows all,
and so while we have free will, He
knows beforehand what we will
choose. We don't know, because we
aren't God, and so when we make a
choice it is new to us.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Feb 11 01:43:17 2019 209.159.255.231)
white wings Fuzzy socks help. *g*



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Maverick says:
(Sun Feb 10 23:06:16 2019 68.51.139.52)
lostinamerica, white wings, Wolfgard: Okay, NOW we're having a discussion. :-)


Wolfguard: You may possibly have TDS. First, your friend's epiphany was probably wrong. I've always run across references to the Peter/Rock thing and the consensus is that's it IS a Greek pun. Change Subject: I think "divinely inspired" means just that, although you-and-everyone-else're free to misinterpret it. Secondly, Henry VIII, aka Henry the 8th, aka Henry the Eighth. I never think people who quote Bible verses for nefarious purposes are meant to be taken seriously; I would recommend my attitude as enlightened. Third, when I was a youngish man, I had a crisis of faith (mostly in myself), etc., and was greatly helped by reading "The Power of Positive Thinking" by Dr. Norman Vincent Peale. Peale, who was Pastor of Marble Collegiate Church in New York City, just so happened to have been Donald Trump's pastor, even having married Donald and Ivana. Trump is certainly a positive thinker. Those who would berate Trump for the 2nd Corinthian faux pas, would argue whether Jesus changed the water into Cabernet Sauvignon or Pinot Noir. So much of the current media features tales told by idiots whose sole purpose is to hammer Trump (find him deficient in some niggling way.) My impression of his remarks at the Prayer Breakfast are favorable (especially compared to Obama's who skipped a National Day of Prayer celebration completely [but had some Muslims over at the house (White) a few days later to honor Islam.]) I will acknowledge your "fairness," however, in allowing as how the so-called "Resistance" is not fair. These are the same people who insisted Trump ACCEPT the election results if Hillary won. Your comment that he is alienating the electorate is not accurate as it's the misreporting and fake news about President Trump that may be causing the gullible to be alienated. Of course we need a Wall, unless you want to personally financially support the whole rest of the world.


lostinamerica: Thanks for forcing me to confront my personal logical feelings regarding God. Let's think about this. On the computer you're on right now, you can get to the Solitaire program, right? Now, let's suppose, for the sake of argument, you are God. If you knew the outcome of every game you were about to play, would you play? I mean, seriously, if you knew that Ocasio-Cortez was going to hell and lostinamerica was going to heaven, why not just stick them there and be done with it. Remember how Hillary was going to win the 2016 election? She didn't. In sports, one team can be such an outrageously overwhelming favorite, but they still play each game. Now, I-myself-me am unpredictable. I might yet redeem myself and go to heaven. The question is 'Can God make a stone so big and so heavy that even HE can't lift it up?" You say Yes and he can't lift the stone; you say No and he can't do something. WE have free will. God does NOT know the ultimate outcome of every thing. He has limited himself in some ways (to allow us to be able to redeem ourselves.) Why has he done this? He may be lonely and desires compatible company. He may be grandiosely, magnanimously generous and wants to share his beneficence. I'm sure some people believe they can screw up and ... but ... that's the way life was always going to turn out. Not so. It's down to the wire.


white wings: You certainly have gone through hell in your young life; however, your mind works well. Enjoy it. I enjoy mine.


Maverick


Let's Stay Together




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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 10 21:29:18 2019 70.112.135.184)
Happy Birthday Babies ate my dingo, Essexgirl_13, Ivy, lilpumpkin, and starcrossed!

Christopher Marlowe - Stay warm yourself!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Feb 10 20:57:40 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Sunday, February 10th 2019 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Babies ate my dingo
Essexgirl_13
Ivy
lilpumpkin
starcrossed

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Babies ate my dingo, Essexgirl_13, Ivy, lilpumpkin, starcrossed



Buffy: How bored were you last year? Giles: I watched 'Passions' with Spike. Let us never speak of it. 'Real Me'

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Feb 10 16:58:25 2019 209.159.255.231)
Good morning beta, stay warm out there!



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Feb 10 13:16:44 2019 73.58.128.92)
Maverick--THAT'S the Bible verse you're talking about, "before I formed
you in the womb I knew you?" I'm with wolfguard, that's doesn't
speak to reincarnation but to the fact God knows all. God knows what will happen
to us, we don't, which I'm actually glad about--it would kind of take the fun out
of it, wouldn't it?


Happy Belated Birthday Trinity and CarpeDi!



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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 10 04:42:29 2019 70.112.135.184)
Happy Birthday ACaBuffyFan, bohemiangel, brb14, CarpeDi, Occido, and Trinity!


Maverick - You're right about the range of consequences, but I was
actually focusing rather narrowly on the absurdity of saying one would make an
infant who might not have started breathing, and was therefore suffocating,
"comfortable" before finding out if one should get it breathing.



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Feb 10 01:04:54 2019 4.28.180.2)
Maverick,

I read a number of the versions you posted. Words are assigned to things,
but they are not the things; therefore, questions can arise over meaning and
the validity of the association between words and realities. Two examples
come immediately to me.

The first one I've posted on before here: I had a friend born and raised
Catholic who later became Full-Gospel. He had epiphany that "rock" in the
phrase, ~ upon this rock I will build my church ~ did not mean Peter, but
knowledge through revelation.

The second one I just came across in the past hour or two. I was reading
down a timeline of English history. One entry noted Henry VIII's quest to
annul his marriage from Catherine of Aragon. The theological argument came
down to differing passages from Leviticus and Deuteronomy (specifics not
provided).

As to President Trump's fluency in the Bible and theology - non existent.
During the primary or general election he spoke at Liberty College (?) and
referenced "Second Corinthians" as "Two Corinthians". Many Christians cut
him some slack, because he was telling them he would look after their
interests, but he's no believer.

Similarly "The Wall". During the primaries he discovered it was the issue
that most moved his audiences. Give the people what they want - they want
the wall. For the most part, Trump has tried to keep his promise to the
people that voted for him; however, in doing so he has alienated more
people. Usually presidents do better by broadening their base, but he either
is betting on threading the electoral needle again or really believes more
people support him than actually do. To be fair, many on the left simply
weren't going to give him a chance. How do you reach out to people who the
day after the election anoint themselves "The Resistance"? You can't.



WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Feb 10 00:45:25 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Saturday, February 9th 2019 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


ACaBuffyFan
bohemiangel
brb14
CarpeDi
Occido
Trinity

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to ACaBuffyFan, bohemiangel, brb14, CarpeDi
Occido, Trinity



Angel: Will you just shut up for once?! Illyria: What? Angel: My God, the speechifying. Has it ever occurred to you that now might not be the best time for when-we-were-muck stories? 'Time Bomb''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Feb 9 16:13:43 2019 209.159.255.231)
Good morning beta!



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Maverick says:
(Sat Feb 9 07:59:00 2019 68.51.139.52)
white wings: Your "presumably" is too large and wide-ranging. The circumstances are too unpredictable, and, chances are, they will end up with a live baby. The movie "Gosnell" illustrates how this gets out of hand (and he had to snip the spinal cords of live babies to kill them.) Kermit Gosnell was convicted of 3 murders. The movie is fascinating.


Wolfguard: The language is very important which is why I included various translations of Jeremiah's words which was his recollection of God's words. God could easily have said, "I knew what kind of person you WOULD BE." Remember "Free Will" is always a consideration. But God said, "I knew you." I think Trump used these words effectively when he pointed out approximately "when" souls are implanted.


Maverick


Eyes Without a Face




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wolfguard says:
(Sat Feb 9 06:15:39 2019 71.199.128.40)
Christopher Marlowe,

Learning is the result. I'm driven by wanting to feed my curiosity. *g*


Maverick,

I can see how some people might see the passage as suggesting reincarnation,
but I interpret it as God demonstrating his omniscience.


WG



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white wings says:
(Sat Feb 9 03:48:22 2019 70.112.135.184)
Christopher Marlowe - I cannot tell a lie (about this specific incident). *g* I actually bundled up and went for a walk, because I figured it would be getting colder if I waited, and I was sleeted upon. After that I went inside, turned up the heat, and huddled in fleece. You are correct, it was very nice.

Maverick - You got that slightly wrong. Northam said the child would be born and made "comfortable" (presumably before having a first breath) and if the mother desired, then it would be resuscitated. After that there would be a conference with the parents. The clip I heard ended at that point. Some doctors' views of the other end of life are equally upsetting. I suspect that they may regard it as a case of being cruel to be kind, but there are things I have never forgiven, even if they probably made no difference. I shouldn't go any further on that subject. I'm going to return to a fluffy mood, with sugar.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Feb 9 02:56:08 2019 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Learning is a hard habit to break, then? *g*

Fascinating stuff on Native American tribes.



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Maverick says:
(Sat Feb 9 02:51:50 2019 68.51.139.52)
Wolfguard: Here's the passage and various Translations of it. Bible Passage.

As far as Abortion, the Governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam, M.D., wanted a new abortion law in Virginia that would allow the child to be born, then made comfortable, then a conference could be held with the mother to determine whether she would "keep" the baby or "abort" it at that point in time. Virginia considered a new law after New York passed its new law (amidst celebration and cheering) allowing abortion up to the point of birth.


Maverick


Go All The Way




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wolfguard says:
(Sat Feb 9 01:00:59 2019 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

I'm hoping to muster together enough will-power to drop my subscription at
the end of this month. Since subscribing, I've purchased three of their
courses, but have not yet watched any of the lectures, because of
subscription viewing. *g*

The other night I watched the lecture on Pacific cultures from the "Ancient
Civilizations of North America'. These are the groups who lived in what's
now California, Oregon, Washington, and British Columbia. It's estimated
that 1/5 of the population of North American indigenous people lived in this
area. I forgot the number of groups, but there were around 500 languages.
All the groups were complex hunting-gathers and most, if not all, were rank-
stratified societies. Some of us might embrace the groups' acceptance and
even admiration for homosexual and transgender roles. OTOH, along with such
beliefs came a fondness for slaves, wife-swapping and a bit of warfare. It's
always intellectually dangerous to judge other cultures by one's own values
- especially when those cultures existed long ago.

The Chumash of [i[Pangs[/i] fame might have been the largest group in
Southern California.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 8 23:44:08 2019 209.159.255.231)
white wings Huddling under fleece sounds so very nice. I dislike sleet immensely.

wolfguard How goes it with the Great Courses?



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white wings says:
(Fri Feb 8 22:28:06 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay Shade of Bronze!

Happy Birthday Betty, copaceticsoul, Everdawn, Motorcycle Au Pair Boy, Princess Naunie, and turtlex!

It's sleeting a bit outside. I'm huddled indoors in fleece, and pondering logging in to work.



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Feb 8 21:49:54 2019 73.58.128.92)
Yay! Shade of Bronze!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 8 21:22:55 2019 209.159.255.231)
Mid-afternoon drive buy. Getting a lot done today!

Patti



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 8 14:59:29 2019 209.159.255.231)
RIP Albert Finney



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Feb 8 14:49:55 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Friday, February 8th 2019 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7)


Betty
copaceticsoul
Everdawn
Motorcycle Au Pair Boy
Princess Naunie
Seth Green as Oz Osbourne
turtlex

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Betty, copaceticsoul, Everdawn, Motorcycle Au Pair Boy, Princess Naunie, Seth Green as Oz Osbourne, turtlex



This money, it is too much. You should have some small refund. Niska, 'War Stories'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 8 14:22:41 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay shade of bronze!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Feb 8 12:48:43 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for shade of bronze!

yay shade of bronze!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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white wings says:
(Fri Feb 8 05:31:18 2019 70.112.135.184)
Trivia Girl - You're a better woman than I am. Dinner and a show when
it's -6 out? I'm feeling sorry for myself because it's 39. *g*



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Feb 8 05:05:48 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Presidents
Question: Which President hosted a series of fireside chats?
Answer: FDR

Trivia Masters: notsoShyGirl
Trivia comedians: Agent Cooper, Maverick!

Apologies for the lateness...it was a dinner and a show for me tonight.



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white wings says:
(Fri Feb 8 03:30:26 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay Lovely Poet!

Happy Birthday Celtique, Schoolgirl, Theo86, and Ventrue!


Agent Cooper - I thought you'd see the point. Whether or not it is that important to you is another matter. *g*

"Are Vampires really repelled by garlic, or are they just fooling us into seasoning ourselves?" Love it!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 8 01:42:06 2019 4.28.180.2)
Maverick,

I'm probably not going to spare time to search for a video of the prayer
breakfast, can you post the passage? As to the abortion statement, since all
abortions happen before birth, what's new here?


Agent Cooper,

First ...

"Are Vampires really repelled by garlic, or are they just fooling us into
seasoning ourselves?"

... LOL!


Second, the continuing disagreement. *g*

The First had no power beyond what It could persuade people to do. If person
did not accept what The First's persuasion, then The First would have to
turn to another person. If no one accepted The First's persuasions, then the
First was powerless to act on the world.1 If you want to move
people, then you have to tell them a great story.2 Mayor Wilkins
did not appear to have this ability. I can recall him only making two public
speeches: To a town meeting in Gingerbread and to the graduating
class in Graduation Day 2. The latter was a great speech - it was the
season theme - but it wasn't designed to change the class' behavior (He had
vampires to keep the students from escaping).

There are more people who can use bureaucracy, public or private, to achieve
ends than there are people who can use words to move masses to achieve ends.
Bureaucracies are inherently conservative. People possess the potential for
volatility, usually triggered by a good story.



1 To be fair, there's another level of the game. The First might
shape a persuasion or argument such that the way the recipient rejected it
would further The First's aims. We might call this the "Brer Rabbit Ploy".


2 WARNING - POLITICS

((Mark Blyth is a professor of political economy at Brown
University. He's a self-described "Bernie Boy", but said during the 2016
elections that he believed Trump had a good chance at winning the election.
Why? Let me tell you a story he said ...

~ I met Gary from Gary, Indiana. In 70's he went straight from high school
to work in the automotive factories making $20/HR - very good money for the
times. In the 1990's, Gary lost his job as factories moved overseas. He and
his co-workers were promised they would find new work as programmers and the
like, but the funding for training fell through. No problem, Gary was able-
bodied and self-reliant and he found work in a call-center for $12/HR. Ten
years later he lost that job to overseas. Now Gary works for the largest
employer in the world, Wal-Mart. Now in his middle-50's, Gary is making a
little above minimum wage.

That's a powerful narrative. What's Hilary's narrative? (long beat for the
audience to answer - no answer) There you go. She doesn't have one. ~


Hilary Clinton was listing policies and programs. Donald Trump was telling a
story.
))




WG



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Maverick says:
(Fri Feb 8 00:33:29 2019 68.51.139.52)
Edited: Fri Feb 8 00:37:48 2019
Trivia Girl: Hillary Clinton. Oh, she didn't become President? Yay!


Wolfguard: Re: my Biblical quote. At the Prayer Breakfast this morning, President Trump recited the Quote in question but he related the quote to Abortions (which the Democrats now want to be able to perform SUBSEQUENT TO birth.)


Maverick


Reflections of My Life




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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Feb 7 19:37:16 2019 165.225.38.64)
Funniest thing I saw on Twitter today:

"Are Vampires really repelled by garlic, or are they just fooling us into seasoning ourselves?"



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Feb 7 18:32:33 2019 165.225.38.64)
White Wings: Good point!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Feb 7 18:27:32 2019 165.225.38.64)
Trivia Girl: Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Feb 7 17:18:41 2019 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard *I* don't know Giles is color-blind.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Feb 7 15:15:07 2019 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Franklin D. Roosevelt



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Feb 7 14:42:12 2019 165.225.38.64)
Wolfguard: But you just proved my point.

"The First combined an understanding of its audience with the power of speech for its aims."

"A person might be able to ircumvent bureaucracy or perhaps even use it for one's own ends."

"It's harder to ignore words tuned to your hopes or fears. Wilkins was like Eichmann, The First like Hitler."

This is exactly what the Mayor did, and exactly what evil public figures do in the real world every day. Think Jim Jones, or David Miscavige. I'd argue the Mayor was Eichmann AND Hitler combined. He had the will to work evil and persuade others to do evil as well, and the authority to make it happen.

Totalitarian governments take care of their people, to an extent. There's an old saw about that, I can't remember it but I'll paraphrase by saying: sure nobody can speak a word of dissent for fear of disappearing - BUT - crime is low and the trains run on time.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Feb 7 13:22:30 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Presidents
Question: Which President hosted a series of fireside chats?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Feb 7 13:16:15 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Thursday, February 7th 2019 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Celtique
Schoolgirl
Theo86
Ventrue

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Celtique, Schoolgirl, Theo86, Ventrue



Xander: We just saw the zebras mating! Thank you, very exciting... Willow: It was like the Heimlich, with stripes! 'The Pack''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 7 13:10:05 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay lovely poet!


Happy CD Thursday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Feb 7 13:02:27 2019 73.58.128.92)
Belated Yay! Carita!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Feb 7 12:56:49 2019 73.58.128.92)
Belated Yay! Carita!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Feb 7 12:21:32 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for lovely poet!

yay lovely poet!


Happy CD Thursday!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 7 06:38:21 2019 71.199.128.40)
Yay Carita!


DaddyCatALSO,

Does Cordelia realize Giles is color-blind? *g*


Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

Which of the scoobies has a Valentines Day date?

Dawn and Xander


Belated Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question

Is there competition between the many slayers?

Yes, on several levels ...

(1) Those slayers who chose to follow the calling competed in training.

(2) There is unofficial competition between some slayers over a variety of
matters. For instance, Who has ...

- Dusted the most vampires
- Dusted the oldest vampire
- Run the most patrols in ____________________
- Fought the most vampires, demons, demons & vampires at one time.
1
- fended off an Apocalypse
- Run fastest, jumped highest, lifted the heaviest weight, or juggled the
most daggers

All of this is friendly slayer one-upwomanship.

(3) Some of the slayers who work with Buffy compete over missions or
assignments.


1 Given the nature of a melee, it's hard to confirm counts.
Slayers sometimes remember with advantages.


Night All

WG



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white wings says:
(Thu Feb 7 02:42:02 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay Carita!

Happy Birthday Allison, Bonfire Toffee, Fruitface, La Timide, and nephy !

Belated Happy Birthday to Django24, Evalie, Oldramoth, and Man from PARIS!


Agent Cooper - We used to seriously caution against young'uns coming onto the boards, lest their innocence lead them to trust evil people or head out to the wider Internet. Times do change. The board is a lot smaller than it used to be, and if Daughter Cooper is already on FB, that point is long past.

Then the question is whether or not you want Daughter Cooper aware of your Trivia answers and such like stuff. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 7 02:13:35 2019 4.28.180.2)
Agent Cooper,

Mayor Wilkins' character certainly captured the big bad running a corrupt
political machine, but in the real world they're not out to destroy their
goose. In fiction, Wilkins had been looking after Sunnydale's citizens and
denizens for a few generations (In Band Candy recall his concern that
some defective-looking gas-lines be checked out). True, he had grand plans
that appeared to demand demons be able to feed off the town (Faith's
observation to Buffy in Enemies) and he certainly was going to devour
the graduating class of 1999.1 But, for a few generations most
Sunnydalians did well enough under his administration. Wilkin's Big Bad was
essentially a parasite.

Whereas Wilkins was a master bureaucrat, The First was a master wordsmith.
Wilkins used the power that came from his role as Mayor to access the
machinery of government for his aims. The First combined an understanding of
its audience with the power of speech for its aims.2

A person might be able to circumvent bureaucracy or perhaps even use it for
one's own ends.3 It's harder to ignore words tuned to your hopes
or fears. Wilkins was like Eichmann, The First like Hitler.4



1 When Anya told the scoobies about the ascension she had once
witnessed, it appeared few villagers survived it (or was this fact
discovered in their research? Perhaps time to rewatch Graduation Day
1
).

2 The speech writer as the uber big bad.

3 For example, lobbyists.

4 Of course off Eichmann I had to play Hitler, but here's a
fictional example: Mark Anthony. For those who do not recall their Julius
Caesar
here's a recap ....

Brutus and his comrades have just assassinated Caesar. Brutus gives a speech
to the crowd explaining why killing Caesar was a patriotic act. The crowd is
swayed. Noble, he is a noble fellow. Then Mark Anthony ask Brutus if he
might say a word about his friend, Julius. Brutus agrees.

"Friends, Romans, and Countrymen. Lend me your ears ..."

And Mark Anthony proceeds to turn the crowd on Brutus and the other
assassins. Words alone spark the civil war that follows.



WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Feb 7 01:59:18 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Matthew James played what
character on 'Angel'?
Answer: Merl

Trivia Master: OldManFan!


Hi Christo!



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Christo says:
(Thu Feb 7 01:07:59 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay carita!

I think all of 'em have a valentine's date...with each other!

Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Feb 6 21:31:03 2019 199.127.148.10)
Now Harmony had a question, Umm, Cordy, Im evil, remember? Why are you trying to recruit me?

Cordelia looked quite firmly at her best ex-friend, Well, for one thing, Harm, Ive been watching some of the things youve been up to since leaving Wolfram and Hart, so I figured youd want to be involved. Besides, theres also self-interest. A lot of vampires will survive in the New World Order if he succeeds. Inept ones like you wont be among em.

To almost everyones surprise, Harmony actually laughed cheerfully at that. Enough said. Im in! She happened to glance at Faiths screen and noticed the brown-haired Slayer had raised her left eyebrow at her and Harmony returned the expression

Nobody else spoke immediately, then Giles broke the silence with, By Gad, I believe her. I think we all should be in on this.

Xander Harris was the first to speak, saying, Well, Im convinced. What do you need from me, Cor? Following this came affirmations from basically everyone else she was contacting.

Nothing, really, except to get your minds ready, most of you will be time-traveling or at least moving through space at the current moment within a few minutes from your current subjective time. Youll all be dressed for the period and properly equipped. Except for you, Giles, youre the challenged one for this time period, Ill be sending you some back-up. Plus, Ill want to set up a special scrying device so you can track everyones progress, I need a living person here and now to handle that and youre the best qualified one who isnt needed elsewhere. Once your own fight starts, the rest of them will be pretty much settled in time and place. That said, the screens vanished.


Giles had already been in his study when the summons came. He rubbed his eyes a bit and when he opened them there was a raised platform of clear crystal on his desktop, a Mercator world map engraved in it, with dots of various colors, violet, scarlet, blue-green, yellow-green, and others, scattered in no obvious arrangement. He flinched a bit but kept his over-all composure and was not much more surprised when Cordelia herself appeared in the flesh before him. He rose and found himself smiling more than he ever would have expected he would on seeing her.

Oh, nice to see you again, Cordelia, care for a cup of tea?

Perhaps in a bit, this bouncing around in space and time is exhausting, Ill need some caffeine, fluids, and sugar soon.

He chuckled and said, Thats odd coming from someone who has transcended the bounds of mortality.

To paraphrase Travolta, Im not that kind of higher being. Anyway, the teal dots are all of you living or undead people; once any of you move in time or space theyll turn to a deep blue. The red ones are the departed joining in as your guides, the lemon-lime ones are any of the bad guys who are already near their targets, the purple ones are the champions, see, theres you. Look, I need to get going again, Ill send your main back-up later, but is it okay if I send over your assistant back-up right after I leave?

Why, yes, of course, but if Im monitoring this device shouldnt I have more details about . . . .

Gotta run, be back in a few, by your standards! said Cordelia and simply disappeared.

After about a second of being annoyed, Giles looked down at the crystal board before him. Some of the dots had already moved and changed color. Then he heard a somewhat familiar voice behind say Wow! and he jumped around, yelping Geez!

Harmony was looking around her and saying, If we could bottle that kind of traveling we could make a fortune . . .oh, hi Giles!

Good God, you mean when I told Cordelia it was alright to send my back-up, I was inviting you in.

Yeah, thats a roger, you all heard me tell her I was in. Problemo?

Well, for starters, Im not sure that youre not actually part of the enemy.

You heard what she said. Even if you dont trust me morally, my bread is buttered on the same side yours is this go-round. If you wont believe Id help stop them because its right, then trust me, Ill certainly help because it saves my own room-temperature skin.

Well, granting that, theres your ineptitude. How much back-up can you be?

Fair enough, look, Ive been training a bit, and anyway therell be some much stronger help on the way soon. Not to rush but I cant be sure how much time we have to spare and the only weapons I brought with me are a couple little wooden knives. Mind if I get one of those hunting knives out of your weapons case over there, maybe that big Bowie?

No, go right ahead, arm yourself how you wish, said the Englishman, not certain whether to keep being appalled or to chuckle resignedly over the whole scenario.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Feb 6 21:18:34 2019 4.28.180.2)
Drive-By

Agent Cooper,

Disagreement is the life-blood driving the Bronze! *g*

More later

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Feb 6 15:22:34 2019 165.225.38.64)
Wolfguard: I have to disagree with you on the First and real life big bads. I think the Mayor was much more spot on with how evil moves in the workaday real world.

Trivia Girl: I do not know. My honesty should be worth a few thousand Bronze Trivia Points, however.



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OldManFan says:
(Wed Feb 6 14:04:09 2019 100.6.180.182)
Trivia Girl - Merl

OMF



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Feb 6 13:49:54 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for carita!

yay carita!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

sunnydale sweethearts - the valentine store

which of the scoobies has a valentines day date?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Feb 6 13:21:35 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Matthew James played what
character on 'Angel'?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Feb 6 13:03:42 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Wednesday, February 6th 2019 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Allison
Bonfire Toffee
Fruitface
La Timide
nephy

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Allison, Bonfire Toffee, Fruitface, La Timide, nephy



I'm not on the ship. I'm in the ship. I am the ship. River, 'Objects In Space'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Feb 6 04:37:38 2019 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

The character of The First comes closer to how real-world big bads work than
any of the other BtVS or AtS big bads.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 6 03:20:29 2019 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard A Cassie-shaped object you might say. I wonder if the First could have been more effective as a baddie.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Feb 6 01:10:20 2019 4.28.180.2)
Trivia Girl,

Actually, Willow did not talk to Cassie, but to The First/Cassie.

WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Feb 6 00:44:54 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who did Willow talk to in 'Conversations with Dead People'?
Answer: Cassie

Trivia Talked with Dead People: notsoShyGirl, Agent Cooper!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Feb 5 21:37:51 2019 199.127.148.10)
Agne tCooper wolfguard Amber is very protective of her fans; her involvement at the Kittenboard and Little Willow's Amber posting board made her aware that a lot of W/T fans are emotionally fragile, especially then-younger GLBTQ fans who wer e helped by seeing the couple,a nd thought FirstTara would hurt them badly.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 5 19:12:56 2019 71.199.128.40)
Trivia Girl,

Cassie.


Agent Cooper,

Amber may have been angry with Joss for killing off Tara, but what I remember
Amber saying was she did not feel it would be right for "Tara" to return in
that way. I believe she thought fans and W/T'ers would not have wanted to see
a fake Tara, especially a 'Tara' coaching Willow to commit suicide. As
horrifying as it might been to see Tara die in Willow's arms, imagine seeing
The First/Tara disappearing in that grotesque grinning mouth that was The
First/Cassie's departure.


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Feb 5 18:55:52 2019 165.225.38.64)
I wonder if I should tell Daughter Cooper about the Bronze.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Feb 5 16:53:57 2019 165.225.38.64)
Trivia Girl: Cassie. But it was supposed to be Tara. I remember there was some conflict about getting Amber back for the scene. Maybe some drama. I think she was pretty mad at Joss for killing off Tara, so that didn't help.

Cassie was brought in when they couldn't get Amber/Tara.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Feb 5 15:40:56 2019 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
The First, masquerading as Cassie



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Feb 5 13:26:59 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who did Willow talk to in 'Conversations with Dead People'?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 5 13:04:52 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay blade the vampire hunter!

deadguy qod

There might be some competition in the number of kills/stakings, but I can't see that as being widespread.

Now if there is a Slayer Olympics, that might be a different story.


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Feb 5 12:58:56 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Tuesday, February 5th 2019 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Django24
Evalie
Oldramoth
Robin Sachs as Ethan Rayne
The Man from P.A.R.I.S.
Vlad

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Django24, Evalie, Oldramoth, Robin Sachs, Man from PARIS



Spike: Or maybe Captain Forehead was feeling a little less special. Didn't like me crashing his exclusive club, another vampire with a soul in the world. Angel: You're not in the world, Casper. 'Just Rewards (2)'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Feb 5 12:50:49 2019 73.58.128.92)
Yay! Blade the Vampire Hunter!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Feb 5 12:46:30 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for blade the vampire hunter

yay blade the vampire hunter!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale games - the underground olympics

is there competition between the many slayers?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 5 06:59:13 2019 71.199.128.40)
White Wings,

Hollywood wants to minimize risk. A reboot of a successful show is seen as
less risky that a new idea.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 5 05:04:35 2019 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Tue Feb 5 05:04:59 2019
wolfguard It must be doing ok, as I believe it has been renewed for a second season. I think this version of Charmed is more serious, though, in a teen/young adult way.



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white wings says:
(Tue Feb 5 04:57:08 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay lurking little feet!

Happy Birthday Chrysanthemum, Bastion Ridley, Kayak Tom, Clattering, Maryloye, Ripley, Safarigirl, and Skulkraker!

That's some birthday list. I recognize 7 out of 8 of them. I haven't posted with all of them, but the names were known for many years.

wolfguard - If you wait long enough, you don't have to do a reboot of the Buffy tale. You could move on with others and retain the history. Perhaps they don't see any logic in that. Current Hollywood doesn't seem to like doing new things.



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Maverick says:
(Tue Feb 5 03:37:04 2019 68.51.139.52)
lostinamerica: Read and think. Don't look for the word "reincarnation"; you won't find it. It's implied. Not obvious. Subtle. Logical.


Maverick


Make Me Smile




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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 5 03:11:51 2019 4.28.180.2)
Maverick,

I'll try to take a look at the passages sometime tonight.


Christopher Marlowe,

I've been inclined to believe the owners of the intellectual property rights
to BtVS have believed they need Joss on board any new BtVS. I've also
believed that a new generation of teenagers would probably not have an
investment in the original set of actors. Wait long enough, and a new BtVS
could be done, possibly, if necessary, without Joss.

Two questions have been whether such a new BtVS needed to be set after
Chosen or should return to the beginning. If the latter, do the same
high and low points have to be told? Would a new series set in high school
have to tell the same story, e.g. Angelus, Mayor Wilkins, Initiative, Dawn
and Buffy's death and resurrection, etc.? A comic book series set back in
the beginning is one way to test the waters.

How well has Charmed 2.0 been doing?


WG



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Feb 5 03:11:28 2019 73.58.128.92)
Maverick--Yep, those are the
ones I heard, but I don't see any
mention of reincarnation.


Happy Birthday Safarigirl!



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Maverick says:
(Tue Feb 5 02:58:05 2019 68.51.139.52)
Edited: Tue Feb 5 03:02:03 2019
Trivia Girl: A Jim Beam© Milkshake


lostinamerica, white wings, Wolfguard, Agent Cooper: When I talked about reincarnation in the Bible I said me-myself-I was looking for some indication of it and I found something. No one else that I have heard of has come to this conclusion, probably because they were not looking for it. But I believe YOU will see it. During a Roman Catholic Mass there are three readings from the Bible: one is from the Old Testament, one is usually from the letters of St. Paul, and one is from the New Testament. I believe once you see it you will never be able to look at it again without being able to see it. Maybe I'm mistaken. The three readings from Sunday, Feb. 3rd, were 1). Jeremiah 1:4-5, 17-19; 2). 1 Cor 13 From St. Paul's 1st letter to the Corinthians (this is the famous "Love Is" comments; and 3). Luke 4:21-30. (this is the famous No prophet is recognized in his own native land.)


As far as Sarah (and Madonna) it's a simple matter of hair height. When they part them in the middle, the hair lays too low and makes them suddenly look older.


Maverick


Don't Fear The Reaper (needs more cowbell)




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 5 02:47:53 2019 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I've noticed they have started a new Buffy comic series. Basically starting from the beginning with Buffy just moving to Sunnydale. Not sure how interested folks will be in that.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 5 01:53:56 2019 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper For once, my mom gave me some bad advice! WE have the same type of smartphone, but what works for her doesn't work for me!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Feb 5 01:05:45 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: States
Question: What is the official state drink of Kentucky?
Answer: Milk!

Trivia Sober: notsoShyGirl
Trivia DUI: Comma, Agent Cooper. I would have expected bourbon too, but that might not have set a good example for kids.



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Comma says:
(Mon Feb 4 16:23:33 2019 75.143.154.113)
R.I.P. Kristoff St. John. He was part of the cast of 'The Young and the Restless'. He had lost his son, Julian, in 2014.

Charles

P.S.: Catching up on FACEBOOK at lunch time. CC



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Comma says:
(Mon Feb 4 15:13:59 2019 75.143.154.113)
Edited: Mon Feb 4 15:15:02 2019
Trivial Girl: Mint Julep?

Comma



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Feb 4 15:08:18 2019 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Milk



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Feb 4 14:15:08 2019 165.225.38.64)
Trivia Girl: Bourbon I bet.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Feb 4 14:00:41 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: States
Question: What is the official state drink of Kentucky?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Feb 4 13:55:22 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay lurking little feet!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Feb 4 13:38:50 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Monday, February 4th 2019 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


Chrysanthemum
Bastion Ridley
Kayak Tom
Clattering
Maryloye
Ripley
Safarigirl
Skulkraker

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Chrysanthemum, Bastion Ridley, Kayak Tom
Clattering, Maryloye, Ripley, Safarigirl, Skulkraker



Xander: We just saw the zebras mating! Thank you, very exciting... Willow: It was like the Heimlich, with stripes! 'The Pack''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Feb 4 13:36:56 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for lurking little feet!

yay lurking little feet!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Feb 4 13:18:01 2019 73.58.128.92)
Oh look, the Patriots won another Super Bowl--bored now :(


wolfguard--You posted earlier that you "believe we have plenty of room for
what we need." Which I also believe is true, with the qualifier "what we need."
We can't remember everything that has happened to us in our lives, but
we remember what's important to us and those memories are not written over--they
may have been pushed aside, or compressed like in a zip drive, but still can be
called up, which is why we can remember things after a few clues or some time has
passed.

cc white wings


Maverick--We didn't have any readings Sunday that referred to
reincarnation, which story did you hear?



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white wings says:
(Mon Feb 4 05:19:18 2019 70.112.135.184)
Happy Birthday Buffycool, Lamby, Lurker Beth, and MsEdith!

Maverick - I saw the commercial with SMG in motion, and she does look older, but not aged. In the picture, if I had to guess beyond the shape of her face, there's something about the chin and throat that may look older. But I don't have anything from her youth to compare it with.

Christopher Marlowe - It seemed like a slow day IRL, too. I was going to perform great deeds of derring-do, AKA snaking a drain, but I looked at the drain, which was not overflowing, a muscle twinged, and I gave up on it. I was able to walk on a golf course by daylight, courtesy of the Super Bowl. At the appointed hour, the course became like a ghost course, inhabited only by a few women walking dogs.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Feb 4 05:17:26 2019 71.56.125.67)
Christopher Marlowe,

"Superb Owl"?

WG



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CristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Feb 4 04:28:04 2019 209.159.255.231)
And that's a wrap, Superb Owl.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Feb 4 02:24:08 2019 209.159.255.231)
Wow...slow day for sure.

I hope the Rams are winning, but I'm not checking the game to find out.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Feb 3 14:05:16 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today is Sunday, February 3rd 2019 C.E.
SuperBowl Sunday!

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Buffycool
Lamby
Lurker Beth
MsEdith

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Buffycool, Lamby, Lurker Beth, MsEdith



Anya: Are you stupid or something? Giles: Allow me to answer that question with a firing. 'Shadow''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Feb 3 07:44:59 2019 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Sun Feb 3 07:57:07 2019
Maverick,

I googled "Old Testament reincarnation". That's all I got on it. *g*

I just looked at the link to SMG image from the Superbowl ad. I think she
looks older, because she is older. *g* What I believe happens to our faces
as we age is we lose some of the fat which leads to wrinkles or in some
folks' cases, tightening of the skin around the skull. Additionally years of
exposure to sun and wind usually leaves its marks on the skin
which leads some folks to apply more make-up, etc. I just looked at a few of
Sarah's "Buffy" photos and she has the relatively plump face of youth. She
was also wearing less make-up.


Lostinamerica,

I hope I didn't write our brains' capacities for memory are infinite. You
may already know the following, but towards clarity ...

A neuron, the 'nerve' cell, has a central body and then projecting from it
long, stringy tentacle-like tissues - dendrites and an axon (I believe
there's only one axon per neuron, could be wrong). Anyway, the dendrites
receive input from other neurons and route them to the main cell body. In
some fashion or other the inputs are processed and the final output(s) is
transmitted down the axon to be passed on to another neuron(s).

Neurons do not touch each other to communicate, rather an activated axon
releases one or more neurotransmitters which move the message across the gap
to stimulate a dendrite(s) of another neuron(s). How many neurons are there
in a human brain? I've seen different numbers, but 100 billion pops up more
often than not.1

Now it's not the neuron that holds 'memory', but the relationships between
neurons and that's a function of how many ways they can connect. The
connections are the synapses, those axon-gap-dendrites.2 How many
of them are there? One estimate is 100 trillion.

Are these enough? To estimate would seem to require more understanding of it
than I have now. *g* OTOH, memories work more often that not. Some tests for
you
...

1) 8 x 7 = ?

2) What was your home address when you were in 10th grade?

3) What's the first national or international event that you remember?

4) Where were you when your first child walked across the room all by her or
himself?

5) Is there any athletic skill that you haven't done in a few years? Could
you still do it, more or less?

6) Can you give the directions to drive from your home to the high school
you went to as a senior? (assume no changes in the city)

7) How do you say in German, "What speed limit?" *g*

8) For you, what's the least memorable BtVS episode?



1 Is that a lot? It's a lot less that the US' GDP or the
country's national debt. *g* I googled ~ how many stars in the Milky Way
Galaxy. No straight answer on that one. I think one of the NASA sites begain
by saying it's almost impossible to see them all to count, then went about
explaining how it might be estimated ending with ~ 100 billion to 400
billion. A month or so ago I read one writer on the brain that offered a
poetic image of flying over the Amazon jungle saying, the brain looks as
complex. But then the writer said there were more trees in the Amazon jungle
than there are neurons in the brain (I just googled, ~ how many trees in the
Amazon ~ and got an article saying 390 billion (four brains worth!).

2 The 'synapse". I've known and used the word since at least the
early 70's, but just realized I may have not really known it. To me, it
refers to the space between where an axon dispenses neurotransmitters and
where a dendrite(s) is activated by the neurotransmitters. It may actually
be an axon's protuberance from which the NT is released or perhaps both the
axon and dendrite's protuberances and the intervening gap - or something
else. The name aside an individual neuron passes electrical signals across
its body, but communicates with fellow neurons through chemicals, the
neurotransmitters.

ETA Everyone, it seems *g*, says 'communicates'. All sorts of cells are
communicating. Biology books for kids and even adults might show pictures of
cells "talking" to each other - cartoon like drawings. But cells don't talk.
Molecules don't talk. Rather their elemental components produce shapes that
interact with other molecules causing one or both molecules' shapes to
change which causes somethings to happen. So electrical signals continually
interacting create the experience of self - very simply imagined. Acting on
and acted upon ...


WG



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Maverick says:
(Sun Feb 3 04:59:55 2019 68.51.139.52)
Trivia Girl: Nematodes. Sorry, but I live close to farming communities, and the radio runs commercials for herbicides and various sprays that are meant to kill nematodes, which sound horrible, and which I first thought were spelled, like, nema toads, but they're parasitic worms which kill growing plants.


Wolfguard, white wings, lostinamerica: Sunday, Feb. 3rd's reading from the Old Testament, in the Catholic Church, just happened to be what I always think of as the Bible's admission of reincarnation. Can anyone come up with it? BTW, no mention of Sarah Michelle Gellar's Superbowl commercial that I linked to in an earlier post? I think she looks older and am curious if you can pinpoint what about her shows aging? To me it's the same thing that made Madonna start looking old. Or maybe it's my imagination. Comments?


Maverick


It's My Life




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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 3 02:51:01 2019 70.112.135.184)
Christopher Marlowe - I seem to have mislaid the day as well. I did buy some groceries. It was all dark and drizzly out. It just wasn't conducive to much serious activity.

lostinamerica - We may all be right about the brain to some extent. wolfguard and I may have both overlooked the amount of time whose memories just vanish into the ether. I imagine that most of us can remember parts of 9/11/01, but what about 8/31/01? Or any of the many days that flow by without anything remarkable? And yet there are so many things that we have "forgotten", but can suddenly recall clearly if just the right key is provided.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Feb 2 21:51:30 2019 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Sat Feb 2 21:53:59 2019
Where has the day gone? I'd better get the birthdays up!

ETA

lostinamerica I'm not sure, I assume something good for folks who were born in the Year of the Pig. I was born in the Year of the Monkey, and good stuff is supposed to happen to me as well.



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lostinamerica says:
(Sat Feb 2 13:30:58 2019 73.58.128.92)
wolfguard--What a quaint idea, innocent until proven guilty--wherever did
you get it from, certainly not here ;)

I understand what you and white wings are saying, but I can't see how a
finite structure like a brain can have infinite storage--even a computer needs to
have RAM added to hold additional information. Since we don't have that
capability, we must be reusing what we've got, that's why we can't remember
everything that's happened to us--the tape has been written over so many
times much of the information that was on it is lost for good.


ChristopherMarlowe--What's supposed to happen in the Year of the Pig,
anything good?


Belated Yay! gypsyrat, Dogmeat and Petrona!



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Dogmeat says:
(Sat Feb 2 05:53:13 2019 108.41.138.145)
Happy Groundhog Day!



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white wings says:
(Sat Feb 2 03:26:51 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay Dogmeat!

Happy Birthday deadguy, lilith2000, Morby, Ramoth, TaraAnyaKate4eva, and TVJames!

Agent Cooper - Now we know what YOU are watching. ;-)

Christopher Marlowe - I did one load of laundry and had my hair colored. I'm ahead of you! *g*
Year of the Pig? Well, let's hope the year brings prosperity to all! And bacon.



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ChristpherMarlowe says:
(Sat Feb 2 02:12:03 2019 209.159.255.231)
happy Chinese New Year! Year of the Pig. I'm choosing to believe 2019 starts today. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Feb 2 00:46:47 2019 4.28.180.2)
Agent Cooper,

Only to discover your Queen fancies her nephew. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 1 23:02:00 2019 209.159.255.231)
Well, so much for trying to accomplish stuff today! I managed to do ONE load of laundry!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Feb 1 21:38:38 2019 165.225.38.64)
And then I got Greyscale. But I swore an oath that I'd find a cure and return to my beloved Queen's service. And I did.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Feb 1 15:48:28 2019 165.225.38.64)
I had Dragon Pox.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Feb 1 15:45:59 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Friday, February 1st 2019 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


deadguy
lilith2000
Morby
Ramoth
TaraAnyaKate4eva
TVJames

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to deadguy, lilith2000, Morby, Ramoth, TaraAnyaKate4eva, TVJames



You have the emotional maturity of a blueberry scone. Giles, 'The Prom'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 1 15:13:21 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay dogmeat!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!lk



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Feb 1 12:29:17 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for dogmeat!

yay dogmeat!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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white wings says:
(Fri Feb 1 04:50:01 2019 70.112.135.184)
wolfguard - All things seem possible. I confess that I was harrumphing at your arm shingles, but then I googled. So I'm glad I didn't express skepticism. *g* In googling, I found that shingles can recur, sometimes even a third time. They (CDC) believe that the new vaccine will help prevent a recurrence. Since you've had chicken pox, you are definitely at risk for shingles now, and since it's a reactivation of something already inside you, only your immune system or a vaccine will stand between you and the horror.

At least you probably aren't at risk for chicken pox again. The vaccine I had isn't foolproof, and I will continue to eye co-workers whose children have chicken pox with grave suspicion. Ever since my office mate generously shared a lingering respiratory virus with me last summer, I regard them all with suspicion at the first cough anyway. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 1 03:45:36 2019 4.28.180.2)
White Wings,

I had chicken pox. It's possible the doctor misdiagnosed. Also, I don't think
having one flair-up precludes a future one.

WG



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white wings says:
(Fri Feb 1 02:48:26 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay Petrona!

Happy Birthday Carla_the_Quiet_One, Lady Bathory, and THX!

Maverick - Aging is a lot of things. So far I don't like any of them. ;-) I never had chicken pox, and I've lived in fear of it. My doctor didn't believe me, but he tested me for antibodies, and promptly suggested that I get a chicken pox vaccination, followed next year by a shingles vaccination. I did that. Now he's pushing a bigger, better vaccination called (I think) Shingrix. It's two shots. It must be hot stuff because my state insurance is pushing it.

wolfguard - I wouldn't brag too widely about your alleged bout of shingles (which may have been quite real). People who have had the standard variety might be annoyed and jealous enough to commit violence. *g* You have had chicken pox, haven't you? If you have not, then I don't think you could have had shingles. If you have, I'll just pipe down.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 1 01:21:59 2019 4.28.180.2)
Trivia Girl,

"Pb" is lead. *g*

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 1 00:59:20 2019 4.28.180.2)
Maverick,

I've very, very little knowledge of how aging works. I've aware there's a
theory cell division cessation (search 'telomeres') and free radical
oxidation and aging. I know some biologists speculate aging reflects ow
evolution works.1 My personal definition of aging is when the
body falls apart faster than it can fix itself.2

Back in the 1950's (?) Henry Molaison had some or all of his hypothalamus
removed as a means of lessening or ending his seizures. It worked.
Unfortunately, he lost his capacity to process immediate memories into long-
term memories. The world was always new. He's such a famous case study in
the memory field that only a day or two ago I came across him again. A
psychology grad student, Miller (?) had been assigned to work with him. She
gave him the following exercise ...

On a piece of paper were two five pointed stars, one inside the other. Henry
was told to draw a third star in the space between the two stars. He was
asked to do this repeatedly and through such practice he became better and
better. But, he could not remember each practice. So there is declarative
memory - I know this. And then there's procedural memory - I know how. They
are different and appear to be processed differently.3

Close to 30 years ago, a doctor said I was experiencing a bout of shingles.
The night before I had felt a tingling, sunburn-type sensation just beneath
the skin of my right hand or forearm (don't remember which). The next
morning I awoke to find ~half a dozen large bumps on my right forearm. They
were hard and painful to touch. I thought something had bit me over night
or perhaps even burrowed under the skin. I was casting around for
explanations. The same morning I went to a minor emergency clinic. The
doctor diagnosed it as shingles. Don't remember any medication being
prescribed and the bumps faded away in less than a week. I've not had
another such manifestations since. :)


1 In general an individual is biologically successful when they
produce offspring. If a species takes a relatively long time to come to
sexual maturity, then being successful means not only producing offspring,
but raising them to sexual maturity. Often this is associated with small
litters. Another strategy is to produce a very large number of offspring
such that a few will make it sexual maturity. Few if any species' breeding
years lie late in life - possibly because the pre-breeding years just
increase the exposure to ways of dying - so breeding begins relatively
early. And because it's early, any mutations that increase age are unlikely
to be passed along to offspring.

2 OTOH, I know of at least one biologist who wrote we are not
cars. *g*

3 In early 4th season, BTVS, I wrote a fanfic where Faith came
out of her coma, but without memory of who she was or what had happened
(declarative memory). OTOH, she still had her skills (procedural memory). An
aside, is language declarative, procedural, a combination, or something
else?


WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Feb 1 00:18:39 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale Trivial Pursuits

Category: Science!
Question: What is element number 82 on the periodic table?
Answer: Lead

Trivia Newbies: wolfguard and Maverick!



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Maverick says:
(Thu Jan 31 22:28:30 2019 68.51.139.52)
Trivia Girl: UO Unobtainium


Here's SMG's Superbowl ad for Oil of Olay


Agent Cooper: I once bought a new Opel GT and at the time (around 1970) I probably could have bought a Karmann Ghia or even (stretching my finances just a bit) a Porsche 911. I used to kick myself that I didn't go for the Porsche, but I was a big fan of the TV series "Route 66", and the Opel looked just like a miniature Corvette. When I was transferred from Buffalo to Sacramento I actually got to drive it on 66.


Wolfguard, lostinamerica, white wings: (Scrolling back through your discussions.) I think part of aging is a lack of production of certain chemicals by the body. In brain slippage it's neurotransmitters (methinks.) It's kind of like Shingles (which my neighbor got (who is 78.) I had remembered, years ago, my good friend, who was a sportswriter, and got Shingles and it sidelined him with horrible pain for the better part of 2 years. So I got the Shingles Shot. Evidently it's a grown-up form of Chicken Pox that you probably had as a kid. You get over Chicken Pox and become immune to it but your immunity only lasts so long (around 60 years) and then you can recatch Chicken Pox which manifest as Shingles. I once was going to ooncoct a Buffy villain (for a fanfic) who stayed young by having blood transfusion from young people (who produce all their bodily-needed chemicals at peak production rates.) (BTW, neurotransmitters might have to get past the Blood-Brain barrier.) Oh, yeah, and I wanted to mention my sister's mother-in-law who was Greek and learned English and then when she had a stroke, lost only the English but retained her Greek.


It's been very cold here. A symptom of the Solar Minimum, methinks. Hopefully we won't have to go through a Maunder Minimum (look it up) of like 70 years (1645 to 1715) of zero sunspots and frigid temps.


Christopher Marlowe: When it's -10 where you are, how low below freezing is it? Just checking your knowledge of temperature. Young people that I currently work with often don't understand this (possibly as we live next door to Canada.)


Maverick


Noella Choi's sequencing of Chris Beck's Buffy Theme from Sacrifice and The Gift.




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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jan 31 19:38:41 2019 71.56.125.67)
Drive-By

Trivia Girl,

Pb abbreviation for "plumbum". :)


Christopher Marlowe,

Might it have been the same dragon that appeared in the alley at the end of
Not Fade Away? *g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jan 31 15:52:05 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Thursday, January 31st 2019 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Carla_the_Quiet_One
Lady Bathory
THX

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Carla Te Quiet One, Lady Bathory, THX



Don't I get a cookie? Spike, 'Something Blue'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jan 31 15:13:50 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay petrona!


Happy CD Thursday!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Jan 31 14:57:18 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale Trivial Pursuits

Category: Science!
Question: What is element number 82 on the periodic table?



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Jan 31 13:24:37 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for petrona!

yay petrona!


Happy CD Thursday!



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white wings says:
(Thu Jan 31 03:01:03 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay Dachelle!

Happy Birthday AngelaWat, Duncan MacLeod, and Sowle!

Sore muscles from homeowner activities, empty brain, cold (but not freezing) outside, warm inside.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jan 31 01:38:10 2019 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I wonder what happened to that dragon that appeared over Sunnydale at the end of 'the Gift'?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Jan 30 22:52:29 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What was the name of the individual who was the original owner of Lindsey's new hand?
Answer: Bradley Scott,

Trivia Evil Hand: Agent Cooper!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Jan 30 20:44:58 2019 199.127.148.10)
Agent Cooper In the scene in one of my stories w here she beds Xander, she debates warning him but then thinks to herself "He's here to learn things, let him learn." Then, when his facial expression tells her he has discovered it, she's nicer, "It's alright, I know it feels a little different but it isn't, not really."
A paragraph or two earlier, he's thinking that partly because she's so much stronger than he is but mostly because she doesn't need to breathe, he doesn't have to worry about "gentleman's arm strain."



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jan 30 19:14:57 2019 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Wed Jan 30 19:17:02 2019
Agent Cooper & DaddyCatALSO,

For your consideration...


The Flight of Dragons (Wikipedia) This is not the movie, but a book
from the 1970's where the author speculates natural processes that might
explain the descriptions of mythical dragons. Amazon also carries the title
and you can check readers' reviews.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flight_of_Dragons_(book)



The Last Dragon / Dragon's World (YouTube-Professional Video)

(ETA This appears to be ~1.5 hours long. It's been viewed by over 21 million
people (Did I read that right?))


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FIDeOOL52Q




WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Jan 30 18:22:24 2019 165.225.38.64)
Daddycatalso: That's as good a theory as any. The Buffyverse doesn't seem to give many specifics on this. The viewer is left to parse it on their own.

Trivia Girl: Not a man among us can remember.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Jan 30 17:34:01 2019 199.127.148.10)
Agent Cooper wolfguard I have speculated quite a bit on the mechanics of the Buffyverse in my fics. I can't see vampires being injured or even pained by cold temps. despite what we saw with Drusilla in "School Hard."
And I like to think vampires are actually colder inside than outside, as a function of the magic which animates them. As a minor celebrity in the comics, Harmony is likely to attract many male human admirers. If I'm right, it's a thing they need to keep in mind in case she decides to indulge her promiscuity with one.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Jan 30 16:54:40 2019 165.225.38.64)
Wolfguard et al Vampire Body Temps: I'm going to dip into the Rice vampire mythos on this for insight, only because that universe gives some definitive info on this idea.

I will wear head gear so for the inevitable tomato throwing.

So, in the Rice universe, vampires are naturally cold. BEING cold, as in being in a cold place outside or buried underground, doesn't particularly harm them in any way, but several vampires comment that they don't really like the sensation of cold either.

They are warm and flushed for a time after they feed, and so look and feel less vampire-like (IE pale and cold) and will often feed just before a situation where they want to pass as human.

Lestat remarks at several points in the books that he often goes to restaurants and orders hot drinks. He can't drink them, but enjoys the scent and the sensation of warmth they give on a cold day, much like a human does.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Jan 30 15:03:30 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Wednesday January 30th 2019 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


AngelaWat
Duncan MacLeod
Sowle

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to AngelaWat, Duncan MacLeod, Sowle



Gunn: We open a can of Machiavelli on his ***. Harmony: It's Matchabelli, Einstein, and it doesn't come in a can. 'Soul Purpose'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Jan 30 14:49:46 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What was the name of the individual who was the original owner of Lindsey's new hand?



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Jan 30 12:51:25 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for dachelle!

yay dachelle!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

post-buffy p.t.s.d. - it's a thing

since the last episode of angel aired, what is your favorite project by a buffy/angel alum?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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white wings says:
(Wed Jan 30 04:01:22 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay amorphia!

Happy Birthday Grifter and HoneyNut!

wolfguard - Are you suggesting that using a flawed brain model might
result in real-world horrors? I can agree with that. *g* I was thinking more
in terms of behavioral studies when I spoke blithely of using flawed
models in an effort to improve them. That doesn't seem so invasive and
irreversible.

I'm glad you escaped snow and ice.

Christopher Marlowe - I think you've reached popsicle status. I'm
expecting the horrors of almost freezing overnight, but I expect that I'll escape
an actual freeze again tonight.

What? Freezing is awkward here. The building codes don't really cover freeze
prevention.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 30 01:40:35 2019 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Well, said snakes and toads would warm up with added body heat.

Sioux falls (East) is about 13 below. Rapid City (West) is about 9 degrees now, but expected to get pretty close to zero overnight.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jan 30 01:02:43 2019 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Wed Jan 30 01:13:22 2019
Christopher Marlowe,

I've seem a forecast for a low of 22 F. Atlanta did escape ice and snow.
Monday night's forecast had overnight rain turning to snow between 11AM-1PM
today, Tuesday. Never saw it. :) Now cold and dry.

Just checked Minneapolis' temperature negative 22 F. During the day Monday I
listened to a Weather Channel (?) story on Minneapolis' "skywalks". As I
recall the idea or plan was put to the city in 1962. One of the people
interviewed said, ~ If you want the full-season experience (or winter
experience) you can go outside and walk between buildings, but no one has
to.


ETA I was thinking a vampire in Minneapolis might run outside to shake off a
pursuing slayer. But, since vampires are exotherms, then they would be more
at risk than the slayer. I'm basing they're exotherms on a scene in The
Initiative
: Riley, Forrest, and Graham are hunting Hostile-17. They are
viewing Buffy and Willow's room using thermal binoculars and the image of
Spike - actually a silhouette - show him at room temperature. If his
temperature is room temperature, then he's likely an exotherm. This poses
two questions ...

(1) If the binoculars picked up thermal images, then Spike would not have
stood out against the background room temperature. So, the binoculars were
also gathering some other wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation so to see
him.

(2) Sex with an exotherm? It's be like cuddly up with a snake or toad. *g*



*g*



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 30 00:47:01 2019 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I understand it is going to get a little chilly down there for you!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Jan 30 00:41:46 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What kind of car was Giles' 'two-door tramp'?
Answer: red BMW

Trivia Drivers: notsoShyGirl, wolfguard
Trivia Parked: Agent Cooper



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 29 18:10:57 2019 71.56.125.67)
Trivia Girl,

Whatever notsoShyGirl answered. :)

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Jan 29 16:44:56 2019 165.225.38.64)
Trivia Girl: Maybe an old Kharman Gia?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 29 15:53:28 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay amorphia!

deadguy qod


A minor character from the show? Ok, I'll pick Clem, who we last saw leaving sunnydale along with everyone else. This backstory is that he originally managed a karaoke bar in LA, but he quickly went out of business due to the arrival of Caritas.

As the black market kitten business couldn't get off the ground, he relocated so Sunnydale.


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Jan 29 15:43:59 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Tuesday, January 29th 2019 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


Grifter
HoneyNut

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Grifter, HoneyNut



The count of three isn't a plan. It's Sesame Street. Buffy, 'Bad Girls'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Jan 29 15:24:44 2019 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
A 1987 red BMW 325si convertible



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Jan 29 15:04:33 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What kind of car was Giles' 'two-door tramp'?



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Jan 29 13:02:14 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for amorphia

yay amorphia!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

backstory, inc. - you can change your future if we change your past

your assignment for the buffy/angel re-boot is to write the backstory for a minor character on what they've been doing... who do you pick?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 29 08:28:21 2019 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Tue Jan 29 08:29:20 2019
White Wings,

Google "Henry Molaison". In an attempt to cure one problem, doctors removed
most of his hippocampus. One of the things this part of the brain appears to
do is consolidate short-term memories into long-term ones. A damaged
hippocampus can lead to new memories not being consolidated into long-term
memories. Such people might still retrieve old memories, but they'll have no
new memories become stable memories. Everything, everyday is new for the
first time and always will be.


Just watched Gingebread. Buffy ~ Maybe we should buy her a wheel
thingie. ~ Also ...

BUFFY
~ Like that boy with his finger in the duck.

ANGEL
~ Dike. It's another word for dam.

BUFFY
~ Oh (beat) Now that story makes so much more sense.


*g*


WG



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white wings says:
(Tue Jan 29 02:54:17 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay gypsyrat!

Happy Birthday Jezebel, Luna, and Roanna!

wolfguard - Understanding brain dynamics is useful. Coming up with
models that seem to predict behaviors is flawed, but useful as long as one
admits the flaws and tries to improve the model.

The mini-mental status exam they used to evaluate my mother, and later my
father, was not dependent on remembering specific words. I'm trying to ...
remember... *g* They might have said a word and asked her to define it.
There was a nasty one where they'd say 5 or 7 different words and ask you to
repeat them, then ask a few other questions, and ask you to repeat the words
again. They'd ask a question of the "if someone said thus and such how would
you interpret it?" type. There were one or two simple math questions, and
drawing something like a clock face. I thought it was uselessly simple,
until I saw my parents begin to not be able to handle those questions and
problems, especially drawing the clock. The end of the test over time is
when the subjects become so distressed that they simply refuse to answer.

The thing that I found interesting was that the memories weren't necessarily
gone, they just seemed to be inaccessible. Long after my mother
seemed to be nonverbal, the caregivers who spent the night near her said that
at night, when she dreamed, she talked. She gave parties, went on trips, and
was quite social. Her older sister, who survived much longer with what
seemed to be the same condition, was similar, although towards the end she
mostly used Spanish, which was her first language as a toddler in Mexico.

Christopher Marlowe - I'm glad you are here, but when you are
there, are you a human popsicle?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 29 01:38:07 2019 107.77.173.5)
I am hereabouts!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Jan 29 00:18:18 2019 209.159.255.231)
unnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Geography
Question: Where would you find Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg?
Answer: Webster MA

Trivia Master: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Good Guess: Agent Cooper

thank goodness for cut and paste!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Jan 29 00:00:23 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay gypsyrat!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Jan 28 21:06:26 2019 165.225.38.64)
Trivia Girl: Wales?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Jan 28 20:31:18 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Monday, January 28th 2019 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Jezebel
Luna
Roanna

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Jezebel, Luna, Roanna



If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater. Book, 'Our Mrs. Reynolds'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Jan 28 16:53:10 2019 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
Webster, Massachusetts.

The lake received its full name once the English colonists arrived in the area. Prior to the colonists arrival, the lake was known as Chaubunagungamaugg, meaning fishing place at the boundary. When colonists began using the lake as a fishing and meeting spot as well, the name expanded to its full Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg, meaning English knifemen and Nipmuck Indians at the boundary or neutral fishing place.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Jan 28 15:05:13 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Geography
Question: Where would you find Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg?



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Jan 28 13:31:53 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for gypsyrat!

yay gypsyrat!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Jan 28 06:41:58 2019 71.56.125.67)
White Wings,

I began recording such memory lapses to see if it would get worst over time
or if there were any useful patterns. It continues, though instances can be
weeks or months apart. Until the two instances of forgetting city names, the
lapses have all been people's names. And while I might forget the person's
name, I'm still able to describe who the person is with respect to roles,
associations, or relationships. For instance, I forgot one of goddaughter's
boyfriends, but I could have told you his college major, current courses,
the model car he drove, his part-time job, that he was reading a biography
of President Polk, etc. Just couldn't remember his name for 10-15 minutes.
:/

Similarly the two cities. I could see them on a map and could spend a few
minutes talking about either one, just for a few minutes could not remember
their names. Now though, I see their name imprinted over the maps in my
mind. *g*


There was linguistics professor named Mario Pei who said you were fluent in
a language when if you were faced with not knowing a particular word, then
you could define it to a native speaker. His example was explaining to a
French car mechanic, ~ That thing that wipes the rain off my car window is
broken.~ *g*



WG



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Comma says:
(Mon Jan 28 06:22:19 2019 75.143.154.113)
Flew back into DC two hours ago. I had the Staff Duty driver pick me up and drop me at my quarters. I am taking off, the next two days, to catch up on my mail, which the Post Office has been holding, and to get food in the apartment. Sometime tomorrow, I will catch the bus, over to the underground parking lot, and retrieve my work vehicle. My Nissan cranked, a few minutes ago, on the first try. A neighbor did have the key and may have been cranking it. I will check later and thank her. I have a meeting, on the ninth, on Fort Campbell. So I will be home in less than two weeks. Just so the office does not get caught without travel funding again, I will fly back on the 20th.

Comma



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Jan 28 05:36:20 2019 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Mon Jan 28 05:38:46 2019
White Wings,

There's "working memory" and a model of "working memory". The model
envisions it as consisting of four or so parts: the phonological loop, the
visual-spatial ~sketchpad, the executive (function), and a buffer. The
phonological loop is comprised of both audio and visual memory. For
instance, when I'm given a phone number to use immediately I remember the
first three digits visually and the last four as sounds (often repeating
them *g*). Often times I can see or make convenient patterns in the numbers.
In part, this is because I've absorbed a lot of patterns in my life so
there's often something to match to the numbers. For instance, seeing "PFD"
I see 'personal flotation device". *g*

Sidebar: I've heard one psychologist who says "working memory" is a better
description than "short-term memory". I've also read a psychologist who says
the two - working memory and STM - are different things. *g* When I was
first studying psychology in college not enough was known about how the
brain worked to really describe in detail psychological processes in terms
of brain structures and processes. Instead the brain was as a grey-to-black
box, so psychologists created models and theories which were speculated to
explain what was happening in those 3 odd pounds of tissue. Consequently, a
person could complete a psychology major with relative little understanding
of the brain.

Example: Learning Theory, Cognitive Psychology, Motivation and
Emotion, Social Psychology, Personality, etc. Some or all of these topics
might have included a chapter on the role of the brain, but one didn't or
couldn't map detailed processes to the brain. To be fair, if you took
"Sensation & Perception" the former would be explained in terms of brain
processes. You certainly could take courses in Physiological Psychology
(Brain), but usually focused on the basic anatomy and physiology of neurons
and overview of the functions of various structures. I'm inclined to
believe understanding individual human behavior, thinking, feelings and the
like have to understood in terms of brain dynamics.



WG



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white wings says:
(Mon Jan 28 02:43:49 2019 70.112.135.184)
Edited: Mon Jan 28 03:37:43 2019
Happy Birthday Bubble's Dad, BuffyFan87, Nouveaux, ShadowSlayer, and VeRyVaMpYGiRLy!


Maverick - If statins make you ache, you definitely don't want to be taking them. It means
they are destroying your muscles. The dosage does make a difference. A doctor nearly killed my
father by prescribing a maximum dose of Zocor and ignoring the results from the blood tests and the
pain he was having. Consultation with better doctors got him off that, and onto a low dose of Lipitor,
which seemed to work well enough. I take a low dose of Lipitor (generic) myself.

lostinamerica - I agree with wolfguard that one has room for all the memories. I just
don't think one can keep all of them in immediate storage, and that the older one gets (or the older I
get), the less space there is in immediate storage. One has to keep pointers to the memories.
Given the right key, the larger memory can be retrieved, accompanied by the old slapping one's
head and "Why did it take so long to remember that" reaction. At work, I can't remember all
the code that I've written over the years, but I remember how to search for things. And SJ01062
was one of several decision table updates that I worked on up through 1987. Which you didn't care
to know. *g*

wolfguard - I don't think they've gotten any farther with definitively diagnosing Alzheimer's,
except by autopsy. It's still behavioral. There are a number of causes of dementia, and they can
result in similar behavior. One likes to know, because it makes a difference in treatment if
one has, say vascular dementia as opposed to Alzheimer's. There are differences in progression
and lifespan, but it's pretty individual. To the caregiver, the things one has to do or know or
manipulate can be pretty much the same.

Keeping a list of episodes of forgetfulness is remarkable, if only because there are few enough to
make a list worth keeping. *g* I've always had difficulty remembering names and faces,
unless I see someone very often, and have occasion to have to say their names. My father
covered it well, but he admitted privately that he had the same problem. From my mother I got a
marked inability to tell left from right. If scared enough, say by an equestrian drill instructor, I could
briefly manage when I was younger. In normal life, left and right always begins by looking at my
hands, because I've got an old scar on my left hand, even though it's hard to see any more. In a
car, I have to point. My brother laughs at me a lot, but he knows where it comes from. Aphasia -
forgetting words - comes a bit more frequently with age. My bugbear is "plumbago", a perfectly
innocent blue-flowered landscaping plant. When you spoke of yours, I suddenly tried to say
"plumbago" and could not. I remembered that it was blue and began with "p" and had to google. It
was really sad. But when I saw it in print, then I remembered.

At Mayo, the neurologists said that there is a link between memory and speaking. They suggested
(when they were seeing my mother) that one read aloud, or describe aloud what one had seen
during the day. It doesn't matter if there is anyone there to hear it. They suggested that it would
help forge neural pathways as some were lost. My mother wouldn't do it, and I forget to do it. But I
think it helps, just as writing notes can help one remember.

Of course, one also has to get sleep, and keep hydrated, and not be stressed, and eat properly, and
not suffer from depression, and not have infections, to avoid the appearance of dementia. Getting
old is not for the faint of heart.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Jan 28 00:42:12 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Sunday, January 27th 2019 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Bubble's Dad
BuffyFan87
Nouveaux
ShadowSlayer
VeRyVaMpYGiRLy

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Bubble's Dad, BuffyFan87, Nouveaux, ShadowSlayer, VeRyVaMpYGiRLy



Cordelia: You're him. You're Angel's son. Connor: It's not like I got to choose.
'Slouching Toward Bethlehem'''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Jan 27 21:02:58 2019 71.56.125.67)
Maverick,

The only drug I use, on and off, is decongestants during the winters. *g*
I've been fortunate. One of my goddaughters is a nurse. As I remember, she
has her doubts about statin's - I believe that's the one. A few years ago,
read an article on how different countries ration med's. One way was by
definition; for instance, when does blood pressure move from normal to high?
One can look up the answer, but what's the experience and thinking behind
the numbers given? As I recall, the "normal/standard/average" blood pressure
is 120/80. As I recall from the article, Britain's NHS defined it as
130/(forgot this one - memory laspe!!!!). Meanwhile across the Channel, the
Netherlands used 120/80 and immediately put you on med's if you fell above
or below (again as I recall). By using different definitions, they in effect
rationed med's. I've known US doctors and nurses who are not alarmed by
135/X, partly because they sometimes attribute the high to doctor's office
anxiety. *g*


Lostinamerica,

I believe we have plenty of room for what we need. *g* "Memory" as a word
often misleads what "remembering" and "memories" are as processes. For
instance, there are different types of memories; memories appear to be
scattered through the brain; memories are dynamic - they get changed when
they are retrieved. The brain's design makes trade-off's: generalizing
experiences sometimes/often messes with the individual instances on which
the generalization is formed. You want speed? No armor. You want armor? No
speed. The bunny vs the turtle decision. You want to make sure the Law does
not trample on the rights of innocent people, then you have to accept losing
some guilty people. OTOH, if you want to increase the chances of convicting
the guilty, then you may convict some innocent people. It's a question of
what a society values. The US professes all people are innocent till proven
guilty, while some other societies declare all people are guilty till proven
innocent.

Now, how about that seque? What does it suggest about memories? *g*


WG



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Jan 27 13:14:00 2019 73.58.128.92)
Maverick--More likely a pact with a plastic surgeon :D


white wings, Maverick, wolfguard--I like to think part of the problem is
that the longer you live, you continue to try to fit more information into your
brain and there's only so much space in there--that's why you forget things
momentarily only to remember them later :)



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Maverick says:
(Sun Jan 27 09:23:16 2019 68.51.139.52)
White Wings, Wolfguard: I've saved lots of links over the years, some to proposed disease causes. Here, for instance, is a link to someone saying sugar (diabetes) is another possible cause of Alzheimer's. If Wolfguard is going to admit his transitory mental slips, I'll happily admit I've been taking an over-the-counter pill called Prevagen© for around 20 years and I actually think it helps. I had problems with something (a name, a word, that I was sure I knew I knew) on the tip of my tongue but I couldn't get it off there. So, give Prevagen© a try [cost? Maybe $40 (10 mg) or $50 (20 mg) for 30 pills.] As far as I know NO side effects. In the meantime I've had other thoughts about mental declines. Britain has recently reported that the largest cause of early deaths in England is now various forms of dementia (including Alzheimer's). This surpassed the prior largest cause which was various heart problems. The thought occurred to me that Britain has a National Health Service and Mebets that statin drugs are heavily prescribed to all those with any kind of elevated cholesterol situations. Statins inhibit the production of cholesterol. Now the question that must be asked is: what is the brain mostly composed of? Spoiler Surprise: Cholesterol Perhaps I'm more fascinated with this subject because I've often been prescribed statins and I can't tolerate them--I get muscle pains (so achy they used to interfere with my sleep.) I've tried Lipitor© and some other brand-name statins and also a generic statin and I've even tried a natural herbal statin (Red Yeast Rice) and had the same problem.


Maverick


White Room




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wolfguard says:
(Sun Jan 27 05:33:49 2019 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Sun Jan 27 05:35:27 2019
White Wings & Maverick,

I had a good friend who experienced dementia over the last ten years of his
life (He died from cancer). It began gradually and then accelerated over the
last four or so years. This was during the first decade of the century and
at the time we were told Alzeimers could not be declared with certainty
without an autopsy of the brain.

I've not gone out of the way to read-in on the disease or
condition1, but often read articles on it when encountered. I'd
not be surprised if there were not more than one cause or alternative
pathways creating the condition(s).

Over the past ten years, I've occasionally experienced difficulty
remembering people's names and not causal acquaintances. Oddly enough, I can
tell you a lot about the person whose name I cannot remember, I just can't
at the time remember the name. In almost all cases I've been able to
eventually remember the name, thought not always. An example, I've a friend
whose best friend's name I once could not remember (and I had knew this man
for years). I began running through the alphabet seeing if any names would
trigger retrieval: A - Alan, B - Bob ... Bob? Maybe, but not familiar so why
did I keep coming back to it? Because he goes by the formal form - Robert.

I once could not remember, "Tara" when thinking of the character!

I do keep a list of such forgetting's and there's only been a dozen or two
over ten years ... *g* Recently though I've two instances where I could not
retrieve city names, once "Santa Barbara" and the other "Rio de Janiero".
I'm somewhat comforted by reading a doctor who said don't be worried if you
cannot remember where you put the car or house keys. Be worried when you
don't remember what keys are for. (I never lose keys, but them I'm almost
religious in keeping keys in certain well-defined places).

End note: At any one time, I'll have four hundred odd names of people I
might interact with on speed memory. See the face, know the name. And yet,
now and then cannot retrieve the name of someone I know much better. It's as
if the name is not the person. I remember the person's details, but cannot
with his or her's "label". *g*

Muffy Summers??


ETA Oops! I forgot the footnote. I used 'condition' as a way of
recognizing it may not be a disease anymore than aging is a disease. Is
aging a disease?


WG



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white wings says:
(Sun Jan 27 03:55:39 2019 70.112.135.184)
Christopher Marlowe - You don't have to be productive on a Saturday night.
You deserve a night off. You are excused. *g*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Jan 27 03:38:39 2019 209.159.255.231)
white wings I it was relatively nice today, at least in the morning. However, a nasty bitter wind kicked up that made the rest of the day unpleasant weather wise. Not really being too productive tonight, although I will have to catch up tomorrow.



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white wings says:
(Sun Jan 27 02:17:05 2019 70.112.135.184)
Happy Birthday Amber, EssJay, and No1BuffyFan!

Maverick - Congratulations about your snowblower! Evidently the Force was with you. It's a good day to try the Lottery.

Voter fraud? Impossible. ;-) Actually I do wonder how many false matches were made, since I spend a fair amount of time looking at matching lists of people. But that number is probably equaled by the matches that weren't found. The real problems arise when they start going after individuals. That's when it's rather important to seriously care that you've got the right people. Unfortunately, too many people say "Same name? Similar date of birth? Must be the same person."

I doubt that they've found the cause of Alzheimer's. My mother died of it, and she did not have gum disease. There is also a genetic predisposition, which my mother did have. But it may be that there are multiple conditions that result in the plaque forming in a harmful way, and this could be one of them. It would be good to find anything, because right now dealing with it is like punching a marshmallow.

Christopher Marlowe - I hope you were active indoors, because your weather doesn't look all that wonderful.

I snaked a drain, enough to get water going where it was supposed to go. I am flushed with success, even if tomorrow the results might go away.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Jan 26 22:59:20 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Saturday, January 26th 2019 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Amber
EssJay
No1Buffyfan

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Amber, EssJay, No1BuffyFan



Anya: Are you stupid or something? Giles: Allow me to answer that question with a firing. 'Shadow''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jan 26 22:47:11 2019 209.159.255.231)
I had a active day, but chilling for a few hours. Birthdays to come up soon!



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Maverick says:
(Sat Jan 26 19:03:14 2019 68.51.139.52)
Nancy Pelosi is 78 and, methinks, looks fabulous. I suspect she has a pact with the devil.


Last year my Toro Snowblower did not work at all. Despite my pleas and ministrations, it just would not turn over when I pulled the cord. Today, ever the optimist, I put a little fresh gas in it and sloshed the whole machine around a bit, and lo and behold it sprang to life and I did my normal one-hour job, of pushing snow, in around 10 minutes. Later, I'm heading out for a lottery ticket. Wish me continuing luck.


95,000 Non-citizens registered to vote in Texas. Voter fraud in this country is rampant.


Alzheimer's Disease: Here's a new idea of a cause. Alzheimer's caused by Chronic Gum Disease?


Maverick


Theme from "Ice Castles"




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jan 26 02:22:07 2019 209.159.255.231)
I am hereabouts!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jan 25 19:27:00 2019 71.56.125.67)
White Wings,

True. And in the end, Buffy was able to throw the sword - pointy end first -
into the wall beside the misbehaving watcher.1 OTOH, her eyes were
open and the lights were on. *g*



1 Little know fact, in one of the working scripts
Anya exclaims, "Who gets the bill for repairing the wall?". It's true. *g*




WG



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white wings says:
(Fri Jan 25 18:32:12 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay Jaan Quidam !

Happy Birthday AliGator, Charity aka Taygeta, and CharlesS!

Agent Cooper - Surely wolfguard was just providing additional discussion material. ;-)

wolfguard - Buffy didn't always hone. I fear she allowed herself to be rattled throughout Checkpoint, the better to demonstrate her eventual realization of the actual distribution of power. Instead of the little blonde girl going into the alley, we had the little blonde girl in a room full of suits. *g*



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Jan 25 15:12:59 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Friday, January 25th 2019 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


AliGator
Charity aka Taygeta
CharlesS

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to AliGator, Charity aka Taygeta, CharlesS



The King of Cups expects a picnic. But this is not his birthday!
Drusilla, 'Fool for Love'''


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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jan 25 14:54:07 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay jaan quidam!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jan 25 13:53:34 2019 165.225.38.64)
Slayers have zero disadvantage when fighting in darkness, or while blinded in some way. It's one of the fundamental parts of the job, and they train for this and/or have a considerable natural ability to do so that comes with Slayer powers.

https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Blind-Fight



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Jan 25 13:47:51 2019 73.58.128.92)
Belated Yay! abt!


Yay! Jaan Quidam!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Jan 25 13:08:37 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for jaan quidam!

yay jaan quidam!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jan 25 06:54:47 2019 71.56.125.67)
White Wings,

I was aware of it, but did not want to dilute an otherwise good answer to the
question. Besides, I remember how well Buffy's senses worked during her
fighting test in Checkpoint. Did she not embed an axe in the dummy she
was suppose to be protecting? *g*

WG



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Maverick says:
(Fri Jan 25 02:43:00 2019 68.51.139.52)
Trivia Girl: George Papadopoulos. Of course HE had Muellerophobia.


lostinamerica: Just about everything the Hansons did on the ice was illegal. In the movie they are lovable goons and "High Sticking" will put you in the Penalty Box where you should, in one of the movie's funniest lines, "feel shame." It IS a bit disconcerting, however, how fast (and menacing) they seem to be traveling in that video. "Slap Shot" was directed by the wonderful George Roy Hill who also directed Newman (and Redford) in "The Sting" and "Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid." Here for your enjoyment are some listed Memorabilia from the Hansons.


Maverick


Get Right Back Where We Started From (Closing Theme From "Slap Shot")




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white wings says:
(Fri Jan 25 02:42:11 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay abt!

Happy Birthday Brookelberry, Esther, and Will!

wolfguard - Don't forget that slayers have to hone, so that they can sense vampires even when they can't see them due to darkness or fog. At least according to Giles. *g*



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Jan 25 00:09:17 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Phobias
Question: What do you fear if you
have papaphobia?

Answer: the Pope!

Trivia Pope Peeps: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Not bad! Agent Cooper!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jan 24 22:51:28 2019 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper I had to google him. Good one!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Jan 24 21:18:11 2019 165.225.38.64)
Trivia Girl: Fear of David Ortiz?



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Jan 24 15:52:15 2019 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Daddy issues? *g*
The Pope



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Jan 24 15:29:47 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Phobias
Question: What do you fear if you have papaphobia?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Jan 24 15:02:50 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Thursday, January 24th 2019 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Brookelberry
Esther
Stephanie Romanov as Lilah Morgan
Will

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Brookelberry, Esther, Stephanie Romanov, Will



That's insane troll logic! Xander, 'Triangle'''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jan 24 14:42:15 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay abt!


Happy CD Thursday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Jan 24 14:29:18 2019 165.225.38.64)
Let's all give a warm Bronze welcome to Chris Marlowe's new smart phone!


Let me show you around, Mr. Phone. Here is the Comfy Couch, and over there is the bar. There's a pool table upstairs if you climb up that scaffold-y type stuff. At least I think there is. It's kind of dark and I haven't been up there in a long time.

And that massive stack of receipts over there is Thoin's Bar Tab.



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Jan 24 13:04:24 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for abt!

yay abt!


Happy CD Thursday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Jan 24 12:10:13 2019 73.58.128.92)
Maverick--I just love the
Hanson brothers--it's what every fan
wishes their team could do to the
other team :) But really, how much
of that stuff was legal, even at
that time? Pretty sure most of the
stuff they did with their sticks was
illegal, even then.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jan 24 07:51:04 2019 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Thu Jan 24 07:51:40 2019
Belated Yay Dirtysocks!

Christopher Marlowe, Lostinamerica, White Wings, & Maverick - thanks for the
yay's.


Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

What, if any, weather conditions might give a vampire an advantage over a
slayer?


Heavy fog, white-out conditions, and the like would hinder a slayer's sight,
but favor vampires' sense of smell.


Belated Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question

Fifteen years or so later which scoobies are living together?

Dawn and Xander



Good Night to All

WG



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Maverick says:
(Thu Jan 24 07:33:25 2019 68.51.139.52)
Trivia Girl: Virginia Bryce


lostinamerica:; Did we ever finish our discussion of the Hanson Brothers who WERE based on the Carlson Brothers. This Wikipedia article exclusively mentions my hometown of Johnstown, PA. For those who don't know what we're talking about, here are the Hanson Brothers in action


Yay, Wolfguard, Yay!


In the matter of Autonomous Cars, I personally don't think they CAN ever be perfected to the degree that they can be trusted. Especially in bad weather, like snow. I've been driving over 50 years, starting with a stick shift in the rolling hills of western Pennsylvania, driving a deuce-and-a-half truck through Germany, living in Buffalo for 3 years, driving across the U.S. twice in winter (Buffalo to Sacramento and then back to Detroit.) Most dangerous was the winter driving. I can still get PTSD about hitting icy patches, surviving out-of-control skids, and living through a 360 on ice and snow on a highway that had a sheer drop on one side. And yet (knocks on wood) here I still am. I can only imagine the junkyard full of computer parts and wires that I survived by using experience and reflexes and a healthy dose of good old-fashioned fear (and luck.)


Agent Cooper: Now that I'm a regular church-goer once again (since Jesus intervened in the 2016 election) I'll add your situation to my prayerful thoughts.


Maverick


Vehicle




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white wings says:
(Thu Jan 24 02:11:01 2019 70.112.135.184)
*waves at Christopher Marlowe's new smartphone*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jan 24 02:09:06 2019 107.77.173.10)
Testing my new smartphone



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Jan 24 01:05:27 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What was the name of Wesley's girlfriend?
Answer: I was going for Virginia, but the others work.

Yay notsoShyGirl!



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Comma says:
(Thu Jan 24 00:40:57 2019 75.143.154.113)
Ref: Self Driving Cars-I never thought, when I joined the military in 1971, that I would see a day that computers would run everything. When I landed in Philly Int. Airport, in 1975, they already had a trans system that had no driver. It ran on wires, imbedded in the road, that carried all arriving passengers to their next terminal. I have already seen a fighter plane land with a dead pilot. The military invented GPS and used it in the Gulf War. We are now using it in ways that civilians will never need. We now have RAF bombs and projectiles that, after being launched, can locate the intended target, after it has moved, and score a hit. We are testing small drones, that a scouting team can launch, so they can see what is around the next corner. The hands on job of being a 'Path Finder' is now the Hands on job of flying a drone. There are hundreds of other computerized miracles that I can't talk about.

The self driving car is just around the corner. I think, within five years, someone will have an approved system on the market.

Comma



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white wings says:
(Wed Jan 23 19:26:43 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay wolfguard!

Happy Birthday Andy, Colette, binkyboo, devilbabe, Psychochica23, Rutger Hauer, steph, and VampSlayer!

deadguy QOD - I'm thinking extreme cold or high water (with or without H E double hockey sticks), because a vampire wouldn't feel the cold or drown, while a slayer might have trouble moving in winter clothing or have trouble accessing stakes, or be distracted by flooding by not wanting to drown.



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Jan 23 19:23:59 2019 73.58.128.92)
Agent Cooper--As if dealing
with severe winter weather wasn't
enough, you and your poor wife and
son! What a terrible thing to have
gone through, I'm so happy she's
OK! I hope she's back to her old
self soon, that would be the
worst, not being able to drive :(

And that's a great friend you have
there, hold on to him :)


Happy Birthday VampSlayer!


Yay! wolfguard! Hey, it's
your Yay! day, you can put
the binoculars down and come
inside ;)


Belated Yay! dirtysocks!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jan 23 19:16:43 2019 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Wed Jan 23 19:19:25 2019
Agent Cooper,

I've heard it said that pilots of the large commercial airliners only make
a few hands-on landings each year, because most of the flying is done by
computers. I've a close friend who is a commercial pilot, mostly bush and
freight, who believes the future is drones. I imagine for a generation or
two there'll be a human on board to calm passengers.

Recently I read in some country(s) or jurisdiction(s) early cars could not
go faster than ~five miles, because a man had to walk (fast?) in front of
them with a red flag to warn folks. *g* Also read one of the first people
killed by a train in England was some minister of Parliament who didn't
understand the danger he faced in standing on the rail. I believe it said
the train was speeding along at 15 miles an hour.

I recall some history where some engineer or scientist or pundit said people
could not ride on trains moving 40mph, because at that speed their lungs
wouldn't be able to work and they would asphyxiate. *g*

In time people get use to dangerous settings. Seriously, it's so much safer
to fly in a plane that drive to an airport and yet most of us pop in the car
and tear down the interstate with everyone else - giving it little thought.


WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Jan 23 19:01:03 2019 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Fred? Cordelia? Lilah?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Jan 23 15:18:27 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What was the name of Wesley's girlfriend?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Jan 23 15:03:08 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Wednesday, January 23rd 2019 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


Andy
Colette
binkyboo
devilbabe
Psychochica23
Rutger Hauer
steph
VampSlayer

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Andy, Colette, binkyboo, devilbabe, Psychochica23, Rutger Hauer, steph, VampSlayer



Willow: That's a work ethic! Buffy, you're developing a work ethic! Buffy: Do they make an ointment for that? 'Real Me'''

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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Jan 23 14:40:59 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay wolfguard!

deadguy qod

Other than darkness. I'm not sure. I think perhaps more extreme heat or cold? Slayers are still human, unless their abilities allow them to weather (ha) the weather better.


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Jan 23 14:27:16 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for wolfguard!

yay wolfguard!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale weather bureau - fair and sunny

what, if any, weather conditions might give a vampire an advantage over a slayer?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Jan 23 14:02:32 2019 165.225.38.64)
Wolfguard: RE Darpa- I've no doubt self driving cars are possible in a technological sense. The hurdles I see are legal and social.

Put it this way- would I invest in a self driving car company? Right now I'd say no. Why? Because it's a bad investment. Say this car company perfects is self driving car and puts it out on the road. At some point down the road (swidt?) one of them malfunctions and people are hurt, maybe even killed. Lawsuits agains the car company, the comapny who wrote the car's software, the municipality that allowed the self driving car to be operated in the town, etc, insue. Car company has to pay millions in damages and now also has to pay massive amounts for insurance to stay in business, and that's IF any insurance company will take the risk. Sales plummet as people lose faith in the tech and lawmakers and municipalities are pressured to ban them by the fearful populace. Company goes broke. Wash, rinse, repeat.



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white wings says:
(Wed Jan 23 03:37:38 2019 70.112.135.184)
Yay Dirty Socks!

Happy Birthday Frobly, Jennifer Lynn, Juliette0016, JenMuse, Noni, and peanut!

We've already had someone killed by a self-driving car being tested. It had a "driver", but the driver was snoozing while the car was on auto. I forget all the surrounding foofarah, but it kind of set the cause back a little. It would be nice to have them by the time we need to give up driving, but I'm not sure I'll be around to see it. You never know.



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CristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 23 02:27:43 2019 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I had forgotten about DARPA, but it's still a little difficult for me to envision self-driving cars in my hometown of Rapid City.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 23 02:10:01 2019 209.159.255.231)
yay dirtysocks!

deadguy qod

I think fifteen years later, the
scoobies would be living apart.
Heck, even family members don't
necessarily live with each other.
I can see them scattered about,
but still keeping in touch.


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Jan 23 01:32:38 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What was the name of Buffy's father?
Answer: Hank

Trivia Master: notsoShyGirl



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jan 23 00:12:10 2019 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

DARPA1 held its first "Grand Challenge" autonomous car race in the
the Mohave Valley in 2004. The course length was 150 miles. None of the
entries finished. Two cars made it to ~ 7 miles.

The second Grand Challenge was held in 2005. The course was a bit shorter, 132
miles. Of the 23 entries, 22 made it to at least seven miles and five entries
completed the course. Big improvement over one year. And this was fourteen
years ago.


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Jan 22 21:58:47 2019 165.225.38.64)
Chris Marlowe: I don't either. I know technology can do wonderful things, but I can't see this working. Because it's a matter of more than just whether the tech works. There's myriad legal issues, insurance issuees, etc. And the margin of error is non-existent. People will be hurt or worse if it goes wrong.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 22 19:57:20 2019 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper, Comma I really have a hard time envisioning how self-driving cars would ever work.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Jan 22 19:48:48 2019 199.127.148.6|199.127.148.4)
RIP Kaye Ballard



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Jan 22 19:35:55 2019 165.225.38.64)
Comma: Well, that would be nice I suppose.

As a fairly avid bicyclist and bicycle commuter, I have mixed feelings about the self-driving car issue.

On one hand I think they could be a real menace to cyclists.

On the other hand, they might still be better than the self absorbed, inattentive, reckless idiots that are at the wheel these days!



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Comma says:
(Tue Jan 22 16:43:30 2019 75.143.154.113)
Agent Cooper: I have to wonder when the nation will have 'approved' self driving cars. It seems like, it would be easy to make a seat, that could monitor if a person was capable to react, if needed.

Times are changing!

Comma



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Jan 22 16:43:30 2019 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Hank



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Jan 22 14:52:23 2019 100.6.180.182)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for dirtysocks

yay dirtysocks!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

sunnydale real estate - rock bottom prices

fifteen years or so later which scoobies are living together?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Jan 22 14:26:46 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What was the name of Buffy's father?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Jan 22 14:18:35 2019 209.159.255.231)
Today Tuesday, January 22nd 2019 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Frobly
Jennifer Lynn
Juliette016
JenMuse
Noni
peanut

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Frobly, Jennifer Lynn, Juliette0016, JenMuse, Non, peanut



Mal: He calls back, you keep them occupied. Wash: What do I do, shadow puppets?
'The Message''


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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 22 14:10:03 2019 209.159.255.231)
good morning beta!



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white wings says:
(Tue Jan 22 02:48:02 2019 70.112.135.184)
Agent Cooper - I didn't know that brain surgery in and of itself caused a possibility of seizures far into the future. It's a good thing to be aware of. It makes sense that it could happen, it just seems odd that it leaves you at risk forever. But no one asked me when nature was set up. *g*

It seems very clear that you don't want to bother the DMV with the matter if it isn't required. Just get Mrs. Cooper well enough that driving is not a danger to herself and others, insofar as one can predict these things, and get the doctor's note.

Good luck with the logistics until life can get back to normal.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Jan 22 00:34:08 2019 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Gods
Question: Hemera was the greek goddess of what?
Answer: Daylight

Trivia master: notsoShyGirl!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 21 23:31:28 2019 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper I'm not sure
why they have that kind of law in
place, when there isn't a way to
really enforce it, as like you say,
doctors don't have to say anything.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Jan 21 21:50:04 2019 165.225.38.64)
White Wings: I forgot to answer your question about the driving. The guidelines in my state are sort of vague about that. I've been online and the law just isn't very definitive. I'm still a bit confused.

What I found so far is that officially, the DMV says you have to go 12 months without a seizure to be able to drive again. But Doctors in NYS don't have to report to DMV. So they don't really know she's not supposed to drive and technically Mrs. Cooper could drive right now today and nobody would be the wiser. They don't actually officially pull your license or anything. It's alot like if, say, you break your ankle and the doctor says not to drive for six weeks. They don't call DMV and tell them and have them suspend your license. They just advise you not to drive.

When you read into the law, really it comes down to your doctor. They have the real power to decide if you're okay to drive or not. If they write a note that your cleared to drive, then you're okay. And that can actually be any time within the 12 month period required by DMV.

So say, you have a seizure. DMV says you have to go one full year without an event to drive again, but your doctor can write a note saying you are a low risk and okay to drive after say, 3 months and then you're okay.

At least, that's the info we're getting. Obviously, we want to make sure she's safe. A seizure at the wheel could be a disaster.

Not to mention that if you have a seizure and cause an accident you are likely to lose your license for good, especially if you've been told not to drive before hand.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Jan 21 21:34:00 2019 165.225.38.64)
White Wings: About nine years ago my wife had surgery on her brain. It was completely successful, and she has had no problems since, other than having to go back for a routine MRI once a year. Which have all been fine.

Apparently though, once you have any kind of surgery on your brain, no matter how minor or successful, you are at slightly more of a risk for seizures later on then the general population. And it can be right after the surgery, or 25 years later. Or never. No way to tell.

They think that's the cause. Doc says it may never happen again, even without meds, but for now she's on anti-seizure meds and can't drive. We're now working out how to get her back on the road, and when will it be safe to do that, etc. It's a big challenge for both of us without her driving, logistics wise, what with work and the kids etc. You can imagine the inconvenience. And she hates not having the independence.

I'm just honestly glad she still with me, so I don't mind driving her around for awhile. :-)



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 21 20:48:03 2019 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper I can't imagine what you must have been feeling, but glad things turned out ok, weather-wise and family-wise.